gw, you know I don't hate America or it's people...I just try to show the other point of view that you lot seem to forget so often.
People out there
do hate you with a passion,. and like it or not, there are some (in their eyes) valid reasons for it.
Beatin disrespectful wives and treating women like chatel?...So you don't agree with their customs/culture (and neither, I might add, do I!!)...But they are just that...Their customs and culture.
Hindu's marry of their daughters at age 10, do we invade India, because that's perverted child abuse?
Women in Africa do all sorts of 'crazy' things to themselves. So?
How many gays a year get bashed in our western culture that encourages hate against them?
People on this board will be 100% against gays, blacks, Muslims, abortion, but jump up and down about women's rights in the Middle East...Come on. It's laughable.
As far as the chopping people's heads off and killing innocents, that's much more a gurilla war tactic than a religious thing....AND, it's about 0.0001% of a Muslim population invloved.
It's a totally different issue.
Hey, there were over 16,500 murders in the US last year...Wow! Innocent dead people in a Christian society!!
Sorry, but you just can't make a connection between these fanatics and 99.99% of the Muslim population.
and as far as meddling in the middle east.....who makes that call?......the respective governments of these countries?....or the bin laden`s and other radical fundamentalists?....
The respective governments?? You mean the ones that run themselves, or the puppets the US have placed in the area for the last 20-30 years?
I will say that at least the west has gone in this time to do it's own dirty work, rather than 'sponsoring' someone else, who will inevitably fail and/or abuse their power.
(And don't even mention Bush and his presence in Saudi Arabia!
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dtb...So what if it was confined to one area?? It was still religious based killing of 'innocents'.
And...why was it based in one area?...In a large part due to one country wanting it's occupier to GET THE **** OUT!!...Hmmm, see any connections here?
Right....
Thailand...
''Oct. 27 (Bloomberg) -- Malaysia will step up patrols along
its border with Thailand to ensure that violence in that
country's south doesn't spread to Malaysia, the state-owned
Bernama news agency reported, citing Deputy Defense Minister
Zainal Abidin Zin.
The border between Malaysia and Thailand is secure and
hasn't been breached by ``any irresponsible element,'' the report
cited the minister as saying.
On Monday, 78 Thai Muslims died in military custody and six
others were shot dead by security forces trying to suppress a
demonstration by 1,300 people at the Tak Bai Police Station in
Thailand's southern Narathiwat province, Bernama said.
The region borders Malaysia's northern states.''
Indonesia? Couldn't possibly be termed religious based. (And it you do construe it as that, only 10,000 people out of a population of 182, 200, 000!! Laughable.)
http://www.hrw.org/reports/2001/aceh/
Pakistan/India in Kashmir?? Been going on for over 50 years. Again you'd be drawing a very long bow to claim it was religiously based. It's simply a pointless battle over some of the crappiest land on earth. Both sides have been fighting for so long they can't bare to give in to the other!!
Charge or release alleged Muslim militants, says Malaysia's Anwar (AFP) - November 10 2:45 pm
Freed Malaysian politician Anwar Ibrahim has called for dozens of alleged Islamic militants detained without trial to be released or charged in court,
Your point here?? You don't believe in innocent until proven guilty any more? Don't think a fair trial is worth the hassles?
I guess 'justice for all' must only be an American thing, not to be used in 'foreign' countries. :shrug:
One killed, two wounded in shooting at Pakistan mosque (AFP) - November 3 4:18 pm
Gunmen opened fire at a Sunni Muslim mosque during morning prayers in Pakistan's volatile port city Karachi, killing one person and wounding two others.
Two Muslims were killed. Again, your point being?
As I said earlier, plenty of murders in western countries each year. So these people decided to kill a couple of their own...What's it to do with us?
Abu Sayyaf behind murder of journalist in Philippines: general (AFP) - November 13 2:56 pm
A member of the Al-Qaeda-linked Abu Sayyaf Muslim kidnapping group was identified by witnesses as being behind the latest murder of a Philippine journalist, a military commander said.
Fair enough. You'd nailed one Muslim based act of terror. Well done. :thumb:
