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I can't speak for all atheists, but this one believes it to be impossible but still hoping I am wrong.

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Off topic here BP but I have to ask. What wins this weekend? Your love for the Vikings or your hate of the Packers? Could you possibly cheer for your team to lose so it hurts GB?

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What of you were 40 years old hearing about God and religion for the first time?

Since we're being hypothetical ~

What if you were forty years old, had just been told by your surgeons to "Go home and get your affairs in order. You have less than two months to live.", and a total stranger tells you about the mystery of God and the glorious, redeeming, resurrection power of His son, Jesus Christ for the first time?
 

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Since we're being hypothetical ~ What if you were forty years old, had just been told by your surgeons to "Go home and get your affairs in order. You have less than two months to live.", and a total stranger tells you about the mystery of God and the glorious, redeeming, resurrection power of His son, Jesus Christ for the first time?

I wouldn't know what they would think? I know what I would think, so you are you suggesting people would try to believe when it's a desperate and dire time. That's another problem I have with religion, it preys on people in dire situations, at the same time it's a catch 22 because it does give people hope who otherwise had none but religion uses a poison pill, if you don't believe you suffer eternally after death , kind of a easy way to control or conform the people especially considering how uneducated people were. Now you would think with education and thought that religion would fall by the wayside. Give it a few hundred years
 

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there has to be a God....how else would hank have found madjacks and all my new friends? I call it a miracle

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I wouldn't know what they would think? I know what I would think, so you are you suggesting people would try to believe when it's a desperate and dire time. That's another problem I have with religion, it preys on people in dire situations, at the same time it's a catch 22 because it does give people hope who otherwise had none but religion uses a poison pill, if you don't believe you suffer eternally after death , kind of a easy way to control or conform the people especially considering how uneducated people were. Now you would think with education and thought that religion would fall by the wayside. Give it a few hundred years

I'm not suggesting people would try to believe when it's a desperate and dire time.
Everyone has a free will to choose and believe whatever they want. The gospel of Jesus Christ is "The Good News". Matthew 8:17-20 "17 And when they saw him, they worshipped him: but some doubted . 18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying , All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. 19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: 20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo , I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen."

And regarding eternal suffering, Jesus himself said there are two eternities, one in heaven, the other in hell. Obviously, I can't speak for others. But for me, I tell others what the bible says because I believe the bible is the eternal, unerring, immutable word of God.

I also don't understand how you can say those before us were uneducated?
Where is the William Shakespeare of today? Chaucer? Milton? Mozart? Bach?
I understand the reason for the Age Of Enlightenment, the birth of "free" thinkers and the breaking away from traditional authoritative power rooted in the Catholic church. But the Catholic church does not speak for Christianity. Read Revelation 16 and 17.
 

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I'm not suggesting people would try to believe when it's a desperate and dire time. Everyone has a free will to choose and believe whatever they want. The gospel of Jesus Christ is "The Good News". Matthew 8:17-20 "17 And when they saw him, they worshipped him: but some doubted . 18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying , All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. 19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: 20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo , I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen." And regarding eternal suffering, Jesus himself said there are two eternities, one in heaven, the other in hell. Obviously, I can't speak for others. But for me, I tell others what the bible says because I believe the bible is the eternal, unerring, immutable word of God. I also don't understand how you can say those before us were uneducated? Where is the William Shakespeare of today? Chaucer? Milton? Mozart? Bach? I understand the reason for the Age Of Enlightenment, the birth of "free" thinkers and the breaking away from traditional authoritative power rooted in the Catholic church. But the Catholic church does not speak for Christianity. Read Revelation 16 and 17.

Oh there were smart educated people but there were a lot of people who didn't know any better and I should have clarified the times back to Columbus and before.

I will disagree not every one has the free will, well maybe they do, they may just get killed for it. Like my nephews, they don't have any free will? They are going to believe whatever adults tell them. I know they will become adults and can make up their own mind but it's difficult when you are taught over and over again by people especially the ones you love.
 
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