My wife & I are going to London & Paris end of this month for the 1st time everything is booked with Globus ( through a travel agent) staying at the Hilton London Metropole, then in Paris, Mercure Eiffel Suffren.We are going to be in each place 3days & nites with one standard tour in each of the citys. So we have free time, is there " Must See" places we should check . Remember we are both in are 50's ( meaning not much walking). Also can I make any sporting wagers while I'm in London. Any info. would be helpfull Thanks
Going to London & Paris 1st. time
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Bookies are legal in England - you will find them everywhere and offering all kinds of bets.
Skip Paris, don't spend your tourist $ on those people. If you must go be sure to visit some of the American Cemetaries there in tribute to the great American heroes who gave their lives so the Frogs could stick it up our arses time and time again!!!
Oh, don't forget to enjoy the great pubs as well. Enjoy England, you might get some great weather at this time of the year.
Cheers.
Skip Paris, don't spend your tourist $ on those people. If you must go be sure to visit some of the American Cemetaries there in tribute to the great American heroes who gave their lives so the Frogs could stick it up our arses time and time again!!!
Oh, don't forget to enjoy the great pubs as well. Enjoy England, you might get some great weather at this time of the year.
Cheers.
Careful about England with what has happened to GM
:scared I'll be more than careful if i were you!!! :scared Paris, Le Louvres is a MUST if you like art! If you like drinking, couple of good Champagne bottles or wine too at good price!
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:scared I'll be more than careful if i were you!!! :scared Paris, Le Louvres is a MUST if you like art! If you like drinking, couple of good Champagne bottles or wine too at good price!
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Mode... so ignorant.... Guess you've never been outside your garden... England is a great place to visit (saw the whole country PLUS Whales and Scotland all right pal? :moon: ) but GM had a very ... disturbing adventure with the customs.... might wanna read it if you havent... :scared
Guess you've never been outside your garden... England is a great place to visit (saw the whole country PLUS Whales and Scotland all right pal? :moon: ) but GM had a very ... disturbing adventure with the customs.... might wanna read it if you havent... :scared
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I read what happened to GM but feel that going as tourist will not raise any flags. Also understand the French Gov't stand with us but I just have to see Paris. Thanks for inf. about the Books in London.
My wife loves art so will check it out. Thanks
My wife loves art so will check it out. Thanks
1837, NO GARDEN, IGNORANT YES, I LIVE IN A CARDBOARD BOX UNDER A BRIDGE, SAVES ON MY GAS AND ELECTIC BILLS.
Mover, don't forget the British Museum in London! Your wife will love it! You can easily spend more than a day to visit it though... The city of Bath is quite interesting too... If you want some,"entertainment", try the Moulin Rouge in Paris!!! :com:
1837 she wanted to go to Stonehedge tour which inc. Bath. Moulin Rouge sounds interesting Thanks again. Also should we exchange money here or just wait till we arrive?
MAKE SURE YOUR WIFE LEAVES HER PURSE AT HOME AND YOU CARRY YOURS. TWO OF THE BIGGEST FAG COUNTRIES IN THE WORLD.
SUPPORT OUR TROOPS,BOYCOTT FAG FRANCE :bs:
SUPPORT OUR TROOPS,BOYCOTT FAG FRANCE :bs:
Homedog No way I can't even handle traffic in Detroit. Public transpotation or cabs for us. Thanks
Stonehenge is great too but it is not for everyone... As historian teacher, i appreciated but the place is weird, in the middle of nowhere, close from a highway...
I would do the exchange currency before you leave, afraid the rate are higher overseas...
Bean, don,t you have the world "capital" of fags with SF?
I would do the exchange currency before you leave, afraid the rate are higher overseas...
Bean, don,t you have the world "capital" of fags with SF?
In London, I'd recommend Terminal 3, Terminal 1, and the interrogation room in the basement of Heathrow. Also make sure you take a paddywagon ride on the tarmac, it's a real treat.
Seriously though...apparently there is an expectation that if you are on vacation, you will be carrying LOTS and LOTS of cash with you at all times, because of course that is the smartest, safest way to travel. If you show up in London with only ?200 they will assume you are up to no good. I hope you don't have an Irish sounding last name. DO NOT mention plans to go to Ireland the next day either.
Seriously though...apparently there is an expectation that if you are on vacation, you will be carrying LOTS and LOTS of cash with you at all times, because of course that is the smartest, safest way to travel. If you show up in London with only ?200 they will assume you are up to no good. I hope you don't have an Irish sounding last name. DO NOT mention plans to go to Ireland the next day either.
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And especially don't mention you are unemployed with no work permit, and drop the names of a London sportsbook and a list of shady characters that were probably under investigation by Scotland Yard.
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If it wernt so stupid it would be funny.
Oh yeh sue them bastids......sue England and the queen mother :mj07: :mj07:
You have an active imagination Scott. Nobody is under investigation, and there is nothing shady about it. This book is well-known and respected, and operates in a country that regulates the industry about as tightly as any country in the world.
My friend is no shady character, and is not being investigated by anybody. He has parents and grandparents who were born in the UK, and therefore has the right to work there if he chooses. That is their law...he has the right of residency, and he's not hiding from anybody that he is there. He pays his taxes like everybody else. He has a NIN (British equivalent of your Social Security Number).
I have admitted that I probably should have gotten a work visa ahead of time, but it really wasn't my intention to stay there; at least, not on this visit. I was meeting with them at the end of my vacation. If things were going to work out, fine, I/we would get going on the paperwork, and I expected I would likely return to Canada in the interim until everything was worked out. They had already told me that if they were interested, they would have to advertise the position nationally, and then prove that I was a better candidate for the job than anyone else who applied...at which point they would assist me in obtaining a work visa. I did not go over there expecting work. I did not go over there to work illegally. I knew the odds were long as I have no parentage, but my friend has done very well over there...so why not give it a shot? And they definitely were not going to risk hiring me without paperwork and put their licence at risk. This was all made clear to me before I went over there. I went anyways.
Had nothing worked out with this one company, I was returning home. I would not have stayed and looked for other work with another company.
AND...as I pointed out...the entire subject of work did not come up until about 3 hours into the interrogation. At which point I volunteered the information, because I felt I had to be honest about everything, that the idea of working in the UK had been discussed. They were all over the map. They held me on no grounds whatsoever except that I had little cash on hand (not a crime as far as I know), and they claimed that I did not provide sufficient evidence of my identity (passport, original birth certificate, credit cards, photo ID drivers licence, etc, apparently are not "sufficient evidence").
When I asked if I had broken any laws, the question repeatedly went unanswered. I was denied contacting anyone and denied legal counsel.
I hope you are never detained against your will and denied your basic rights Scott. It's not a good feeling.
I WILL NEVER FORGET THE GREAT HEATHROW AIRPORT SHAKEDOWN OF 2005, AND HOW THEY COST ME AT LEAST 660 DOLLARS.
My friend is no shady character, and is not being investigated by anybody. He has parents and grandparents who were born in the UK, and therefore has the right to work there if he chooses. That is their law...he has the right of residency, and he's not hiding from anybody that he is there. He pays his taxes like everybody else. He has a NIN (British equivalent of your Social Security Number).
I have admitted that I probably should have gotten a work visa ahead of time, but it really wasn't my intention to stay there; at least, not on this visit. I was meeting with them at the end of my vacation. If things were going to work out, fine, I/we would get going on the paperwork, and I expected I would likely return to Canada in the interim until everything was worked out. They had already told me that if they were interested, they would have to advertise the position nationally, and then prove that I was a better candidate for the job than anyone else who applied...at which point they would assist me in obtaining a work visa. I did not go over there expecting work. I did not go over there to work illegally. I knew the odds were long as I have no parentage, but my friend has done very well over there...so why not give it a shot? And they definitely were not going to risk hiring me without paperwork and put their licence at risk. This was all made clear to me before I went over there. I went anyways.
Had nothing worked out with this one company, I was returning home. I would not have stayed and looked for other work with another company.
AND...as I pointed out...the entire subject of work did not come up until about 3 hours into the interrogation. At which point I volunteered the information, because I felt I had to be honest about everything, that the idea of working in the UK had been discussed. They were all over the map. They held me on no grounds whatsoever except that I had little cash on hand (not a crime as far as I know), and they claimed that I did not provide sufficient evidence of my identity (passport, original birth certificate, credit cards, photo ID drivers licence, etc, apparently are not "sufficient evidence").
When I asked if I had broken any laws, the question repeatedly went unanswered. I was denied contacting anyone and denied legal counsel.
I hope you are never detained against your will and denied your basic rights Scott. It's not a good feeling.
I WILL NEVER FORGET THE GREAT HEATHROW AIRPORT SHAKEDOWN OF 2005, AND HOW THEY COST ME AT LEAST 660 DOLLARS.
In London I would suggest the regulars of the Parliament, Westminster Abbey, and the Tower of London is truly a MUST see as the Beefeaters are very enjoyable and the tour is very historic. I would also highly recommend the Library of London and the War Rooms of Winston Churchill as they still have his cigar in the ashtray next to his quarters. The London Eye is a waste of time, but I did enjoy going to the palace, both of them Kensington etc......Hyde park is a very interesting walk if the weather permits. The Cutty Sark was fun but not as impertant to see as the first few I mentioned. Remember the Tower is a must.
Paris is also fun although not as friendly. Of Course the obvious is the tower. (Eiffel) and the Louvre however the Louvre is extremely expansive and takes a long time to get through. I would suggest going to Notre Dame, walking through the St. Michelle area, as the restaurants are fairly good. One of the things I would certainly do if going with the wife is to go to the Musee' de Rodin and Orsay. Get a nice bottle of red from one of the local wineries. I would suggest something from the Pauillac, or St. Emilion area or a nice Margeaux and you can purchase some baguette sandwiches from one of the street vendors, (the better ones have longer lines) and some nice fruit and cheese. At the musee' De Rodin most of his works are outside and "The Thinker" is located very close to a pretty little duck pond, nice flowers etc..........Really nice place for a romantic lunch and bottle of wine. Prior to leaving on your excursions in the morning stop by any local bakery and pick up a nice baguette to munch on as you take the trains to your destinations. I also enjoyed the gravesite of Jim Morrison. Very cool. Hope this helps.
Paris is also fun although not as friendly. Of Course the obvious is the tower. (Eiffel) and the Louvre however the Louvre is extremely expansive and takes a long time to get through. I would suggest going to Notre Dame, walking through the St. Michelle area, as the restaurants are fairly good. One of the things I would certainly do if going with the wife is to go to the Musee' de Rodin and Orsay. Get a nice bottle of red from one of the local wineries. I would suggest something from the Pauillac, or St. Emilion area or a nice Margeaux and you can purchase some baguette sandwiches from one of the street vendors, (the better ones have longer lines) and some nice fruit and cheese. At the musee' De Rodin most of his works are outside and "The Thinker" is located very close to a pretty little duck pond, nice flowers etc..........Really nice place for a romantic lunch and bottle of wine. Prior to leaving on your excursions in the morning stop by any local bakery and pick up a nice baguette to munch on as you take the trains to your destinations. I also enjoyed the gravesite of Jim Morrison. Very cool. Hope this helps.
