Florida's schedule looks tough as that Kentucky game is dangerous being sandwiched between Tennessee & an always tough out Alabama. If they had lines up now, I would be tempted to hop on Kentucky + the points.
Great to see that the NCAA Football diehards are active....
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scott
while arizona has never been to a rose bowl, we have shared the conf title.....tied with oregon (93?) and one other year tied with ucla (lost to both in those years so didn't make it to rose bowl)
the best team we had was in 98 and i swear, if not for a bad 4 min stretch vs ucla, arizona is playing in the bcs title game ahead of fsu and tenn.
while arizona has never been to a rose bowl, we have shared the conf title.....tied with oregon (93?) and one other year tied with ucla (lost to both in those years so didn't make it to rose bowl)
the best team we had was in 98 and i swear, if not for a bad 4 min stretch vs ucla, arizona is playing in the bcs title game ahead of fsu and tenn.
...you're right, Scott. The PAC-10 is the dominant conference in college football and that's a widely known and undisputed fact.... 
taoist said:...you're right, Scott. The PAC-10 is the dominant conference in college football and that's a widely known and undisputed fact....
That was not the point of the argument!
But I am glad I convinced you the SEC is not superior to the Pac 10. :clap:
Main Entry: sar?casm
Pronunciation: 's?r-"ka-z&m
Function: noun
Etymology: French or Late Latin; French sarcasme, from Late Latin sarcasmos, from Greek sarkasmos, from sarkazein to tear flesh, bite the lips in rage, sneer, from sark-, sarx flesh; probably akin to Avestan thwar&s- to cut
1 : a sharp and often satirical or ironic utterance designed to cut or give pain <tired of continual sarcasms>
2 a : a mode of satirical wit depending for its effect on bitter, caustic, and often ironic language that is usually directed against an individual b : the use or language of sarcasm <this is no time to indulge in sarcasm>
Pronunciation: 's?r-"ka-z&m
Function: noun
Etymology: French or Late Latin; French sarcasme, from Late Latin sarcasmos, from Greek sarkasmos, from sarkazein to tear flesh, bite the lips in rage, sneer, from sark-, sarx flesh; probably akin to Avestan thwar&s- to cut
1 : a sharp and often satirical or ironic utterance designed to cut or give pain <tired of continual sarcasms>
2 a : a mode of satirical wit depending for its effect on bitter, caustic, and often ironic language that is usually directed against an individual b : the use or language of sarcasm <this is no time to indulge in sarcasm>
taoist said:
Then I assume you are not equipped to participate in an intelligent debate. This explains why you revert to sarcasm and name calling.
taoist said:...you're right, Scott. The PAC-10 is the dominant conference in college football and that's a widely known and undisputed fact....
taoist said:...my apologies, scottie.... you're right.... the Pac 10 is the toughest conf to run the table.... :mj07: :mj07:
...retard.
taoist said:...no, let me repeat myself.... Scott, you're an asshole!!!
...and once again have proven it to the rest of the forum.
taoist said:
taoist said:
Very intelligent and mature quotes from you Taoist! Keep it up! :flush:
That is what I call sarcasm!
...sorry, Scott, but it is impossible to "debate" with someone with a closed mind...who is so blind as to reality that he actually thinks that the PAC 10 is anything other than a beefed up mid-major conference running on a constant i.v. of alumni contributions.... :mj17: :mj07:
...and by the way, scooter, I doubt that you'd hold a candle to most of the board when it comes to intelligence. :moon: :jerkit:
I just pray that you don't continue to turn every post in this forum into your own personal PAC 10 soapbox when the season rolls around....
...most of the fine folks in this forum think that you're more dense than a bag of hammers...the rest of them know it.
...and by the way, scooter, I doubt that you'd hold a candle to most of the board when it comes to intelligence. :moon: :jerkit:
I just pray that you don't continue to turn every post in this forum into your own personal PAC 10 soapbox when the season rolls around....
...most of the fine folks in this forum think that you're more dense than a bag of hammers...the rest of them know it.
Oh hell yes, you sure shut me up once I realized
how BADASS the Pac 10 is... :mj07:
I guess that's why Saturday's Gameday parks next
to Pac 10 Conference Showdowns week in and
week out...I gotta admit scotter, I can't name
3 schools in the Pac 10 and their respective city
where they are located...ignorance at it's best...
and neither can the vast majority of other college
football fanatics...because we know where the
REAL college football is played EVERY WEEKEND...
and it sure as hell isn't in Pullman, or Eugene, or
Tucsan, or whereever the else you fricken wanna-
bees claim your superiority.... :mj07:
how BADASS the Pac 10 is... :mj07:
I guess that's why Saturday's Gameday parks next
to Pac 10 Conference Showdowns week in and
week out...I gotta admit scotter, I can't name
3 schools in the Pac 10 and their respective city
where they are located...ignorance at it's best...
and neither can the vast majority of other college
football fanatics...because we know where the
REAL college football is played EVERY WEEKEND...
and it sure as hell isn't in Pullman, or Eugene, or
Tucsan, or whereever the else you fricken wanna-
bees claim your superiority.... :mj07:
You know what scooter, I may not be so ignorant
after all, I just named three and am pretty sure
UCLA plays in the Rose Bowl in Pasedena and USC
plays in South Central with all the other thugs,
Cal at Berkley, ASU in Scottsdale??, don't know
if Pullman is Wash or State, don't know if OU or
OSU is Eugene or Corvalis???...just goes to show you what a fricken football powerhouse the Pac 10
is...Yes, the Pac 10 just blows away all the other
college football lowlifes with it's tradition and better
yet it's OVERALL DOMINANCE in the last 20 years..
:scared
after all, I just named three and am pretty sure
UCLA plays in the Rose Bowl in Pasedena and USC
plays in South Central with all the other thugs,
Cal at Berkley, ASU in Scottsdale??, don't know
if Pullman is Wash or State, don't know if OU or
OSU is Eugene or Corvalis???...just goes to show you what a fricken football powerhouse the Pac 10
is...Yes, the Pac 10 just blows away all the other
college football lowlifes with it's tradition and better
yet it's OVERALL DOMINANCE in the last 20 years..
:scared
SALTY DOG
I agree the SEC conference is more popular than the Pac 10.
I agree the fans are more passionate about football in the SEC vs the Pac 10.
SEC does get more TV exposure than the Pac 10.
SEC does get more publicity than the Pac 10.
Thats great if you can name all the cities that SEC teams play in vs the cities the Pac 10 teams play in.
Thats great if ESPN gameday goes to more SEC matchups vs Pac 10 matchups. I think time zones play a big part in this but who cares. Thumbs up for the SEC! I love watching SEC games. Great game atmosheres. I hope to one day watch USC play an SEC team in the south. I missed out when USC played @AU.
Thats great if the SEC has more tradition and if the SEC has been more dominant in the last 20 years. FYI, this is an argument about each conference NOW, not 20+ years ago.
Unfortunately all these opinons don't support anybody's opinion that the SEC is "superior" to the Pac 10 in terms of football ability for each team in the conference. Please try again!
I agree the SEC conference is more popular than the Pac 10.
I agree the fans are more passionate about football in the SEC vs the Pac 10.
SEC does get more TV exposure than the Pac 10.
SEC does get more publicity than the Pac 10.
Thats great if you can name all the cities that SEC teams play in vs the cities the Pac 10 teams play in.
Thats great if ESPN gameday goes to more SEC matchups vs Pac 10 matchups. I think time zones play a big part in this but who cares. Thumbs up for the SEC! I love watching SEC games. Great game atmosheres. I hope to one day watch USC play an SEC team in the south. I missed out when USC played @AU.
Thats great if the SEC has more tradition and if the SEC has been more dominant in the last 20 years. FYI, this is an argument about each conference NOW, not 20+ years ago.
Unfortunately all these opinons don't support anybody's opinion that the SEC is "superior" to the Pac 10 in terms of football ability for each team in the conference. Please try again!
Guess Stoops is in the same boat as Carroll. He somehow should have prevented Peterson from being involved in a fight. SHAME ON YOU STOOPS! WHY WERE YOU NOT WATCHING PETERSON 24/7. BAD BOY! You have no character. BTW, Adrian Peterson as far as I know, had no past history before coming to OU. I know his father is in jail. Maybe Stoops shouldn't have recruited Peterson because his Dad was in jail. :mj07:
Adrian Peterson involved in a fight...Three people injured
As reported by the Oklahoma Daily....
"OU football player linked to fight
Police recordings indicate involvement of Adrian Peterson.
Sara Ganus and Christopher Terbrueggen - DAILY STAFF WRITERS
May 04, 2005
Two men and one woman were injured April 23 after several fights broke out around 4 a.m. at Denny's Restaurant involving a group of men, including Adrian Peterson, OU freshman running back, according to 911 police calls and a police radio traffic recording.
The participants were suspected of using alcohol, according to a police report.
After witnesses declined to comment, The Daily obtained a copy of the two 911 calls made from Denny's, 2535 W. Main St., and a recording of the radio traffic between the Norman Police Department and a squad car at the time of the fight.
Norman police received calls about a man whose forehead was cut and needed stitches, another who had Tabasco sauce and glass in his eye and a woman who was cut with glass. None of the victims could be identified.
Peterson was a passenger in a car that was pulled over around the time of the fight, according to the radio traffic recording. Norman police pulled the car over at Ed Noble Parkway and Main Street after receiving information that Peterson "apparently started the fight."
A Norman communication officer, who handles 911 calls, told the officer who pulled the car over that one of the suspects involved in the fight may have had a knife.
Two Denny's employees made the calls reporting the fight, saying a group of men were throwing plates, brooms and bottles of Tabasco and swinging brooms.
"They're using brooms, throwing plates--there's all kinds of things that happened so far. Please hurry," an employee, who identified himself as Roger, said to a 911 communication officer.
Roger reported 13 men--12 against one--were involved in a fight before another broke out.
"It's coming right now, another fight's coming right now," he said. "Hurry. Hurry now."
Denny's Manager Mike Beckham also made a call reporting a fight involving five men in the restaurant and asking for emergency assistance at the time of the fight. Beckham said those involved in the fight were throwing bottles and ashtrays and swinging brooms.
"I don't know if [the victim] got hit with a piece of glass or a broomstick or what," Beckham told the 911 communication officer.
While Beckham was wiping the victim's head to control the bleeding, he told the communication officer that half of the participants left the scene and two more people were injured.
Beckham reported the man who had Tabasco sauce and glass in his eye and the woman who was cut.
OU football head coach Bob Stoops said he was aware of the incident; he has talked to the players about it; and their understanding is that the incident may have been instigated by other people, according to Kenny Mossman, associate athletic director for media relations.
Nishant Patel, a business sophomore who is a clerk at Quality Inn, 100 SW 26th Drive, located across from Denny's, said that in the beginning, about three police cars arrived at Denny's and that three minutes later, three more arrived.
Emergency Medical Services and the Norman Fire Department also showed up, Patel said.
No one was put into an ambulance or a police car, he said.
On April 28--five days after the incident--Beckham said he was in the back of Denny's when the fight broke out.
"It wasn't anything really major," he said.
Beckham said four or five people were involved and that he wasn't sure whether any of them were OU football players.
"I'm not from around here, but somebody said there was a football player," he said.
Beckham also said he thought the Denny's owner and Stoops had talked about the incident.
Norman Police Lt. Tom Easley said no arrests were made and that the incident was recorded as malicious injury and destruction of property, or vandalism.
"None of the parties were arrested because no one wanted to pursue charges, and it didn't occur in our presence," Easley said. "It was a misdemeanor incident."
Easley said all parties were interviewed and released at the scene.
One employee reported damage to a glass brick, according to a police report. Easley said the brick, part of a wall that separates the restaurant's smoking and non-smoking sections, had about $100 worth of damage.
Reza Ghanaati, one of Denny's owners, said he would not press charges against anyone and said he had talked to Stoops but would not comment about it."
www.oudaily.com/vnews/dis...8c35ceafa2
Adrian Peterson involved in a fight...Three people injured
As reported by the Oklahoma Daily....
"OU football player linked to fight
Police recordings indicate involvement of Adrian Peterson.
Sara Ganus and Christopher Terbrueggen - DAILY STAFF WRITERS
May 04, 2005
Two men and one woman were injured April 23 after several fights broke out around 4 a.m. at Denny's Restaurant involving a group of men, including Adrian Peterson, OU freshman running back, according to 911 police calls and a police radio traffic recording.
The participants were suspected of using alcohol, according to a police report.
After witnesses declined to comment, The Daily obtained a copy of the two 911 calls made from Denny's, 2535 W. Main St., and a recording of the radio traffic between the Norman Police Department and a squad car at the time of the fight.
Norman police received calls about a man whose forehead was cut and needed stitches, another who had Tabasco sauce and glass in his eye and a woman who was cut with glass. None of the victims could be identified.
Peterson was a passenger in a car that was pulled over around the time of the fight, according to the radio traffic recording. Norman police pulled the car over at Ed Noble Parkway and Main Street after receiving information that Peterson "apparently started the fight."
A Norman communication officer, who handles 911 calls, told the officer who pulled the car over that one of the suspects involved in the fight may have had a knife.
Two Denny's employees made the calls reporting the fight, saying a group of men were throwing plates, brooms and bottles of Tabasco and swinging brooms.
"They're using brooms, throwing plates--there's all kinds of things that happened so far. Please hurry," an employee, who identified himself as Roger, said to a 911 communication officer.
Roger reported 13 men--12 against one--were involved in a fight before another broke out.
"It's coming right now, another fight's coming right now," he said. "Hurry. Hurry now."
Denny's Manager Mike Beckham also made a call reporting a fight involving five men in the restaurant and asking for emergency assistance at the time of the fight. Beckham said those involved in the fight were throwing bottles and ashtrays and swinging brooms.
"I don't know if [the victim] got hit with a piece of glass or a broomstick or what," Beckham told the 911 communication officer.
While Beckham was wiping the victim's head to control the bleeding, he told the communication officer that half of the participants left the scene and two more people were injured.
Beckham reported the man who had Tabasco sauce and glass in his eye and the woman who was cut.
OU football head coach Bob Stoops said he was aware of the incident; he has talked to the players about it; and their understanding is that the incident may have been instigated by other people, according to Kenny Mossman, associate athletic director for media relations.
Nishant Patel, a business sophomore who is a clerk at Quality Inn, 100 SW 26th Drive, located across from Denny's, said that in the beginning, about three police cars arrived at Denny's and that three minutes later, three more arrived.
Emergency Medical Services and the Norman Fire Department also showed up, Patel said.
No one was put into an ambulance or a police car, he said.
On April 28--five days after the incident--Beckham said he was in the back of Denny's when the fight broke out.
"It wasn't anything really major," he said.
Beckham said four or five people were involved and that he wasn't sure whether any of them were OU football players.
"I'm not from around here, but somebody said there was a football player," he said.
Beckham also said he thought the Denny's owner and Stoops had talked about the incident.
Norman Police Lt. Tom Easley said no arrests were made and that the incident was recorded as malicious injury and destruction of property, or vandalism.
"None of the parties were arrested because no one wanted to pursue charges, and it didn't occur in our presence," Easley said. "It was a misdemeanor incident."
Easley said all parties were interviewed and released at the scene.
One employee reported damage to a glass brick, according to a police report. Easley said the brick, part of a wall that separates the restaurant's smoking and non-smoking sections, had about $100 worth of damage.
Reza Ghanaati, one of Denny's owners, said he would not press charges against anyone and said he had talked to Stoops but would not comment about it."
www.oudaily.com/vnews/dis...8c35ceafa2
taoist said:
Maybe it is hard to debate with me because I actually support my opinion and often with FACTS! :lol2
Am I suppose to feel sorry for you because you can't counter ague my valid points AND can't support your own opinion? Am I suppose to feel sorry for you when you call me names instead of having an intelligent debate? :nooo:
...and by the way, scooter, I doubt that you'd hold a candle to most of the board when it comes to intelligence. :moon: :jerkit:
Whether I can or can't doesn't matter to me. In fact, I would encourage someone with intelligence to debate with me so I can learn something! Someone who would have to make me think.
I just pray that you don't continue to turn every post in this forum into your own personal PAC 10 soapbox when the season rolls around....
During college football season I post winners and make $$$. I think I have won over 80% of my posted plays in college football. All posted and documents at MJ's. I don't post plays often but when I do I post my pick and detailed analysis. So posters know where I stand and bettors on either side of the pick can become more educated. Guess you have not been around the CFB forum the last 3 years "during" the season.
...most of the fine folks in this forum think that you're more dense than a bag of hammers...the rest of them know it.
I don't care what people at MJ's think of me. When I post my opinion or pick I explain why I feel that way. When I debate I post facts supporting my opinion. I take what others say and explain why I disagree or why I "think" they they are wrong. Doesn't matter what you or anybody else thinks of me. I always explain where I am coming from and back it up. Basically, I do the opposite of what you do in a debate.
You need to learn how to have an intelligent debate AND treat people with respect. I am not calling you stupid. I am saying you don't know how to have an intelligent debate. You don't show respect and act very immature. As you can see, I will not participate in your childish game and call each other names. No matter how much you try and bait me. I choose to take the higher road.Chad,
Holtz had unprecedented recruiting success at South Carolina (RB Cory Boyd, for one). Spurrier is not walking up to an empty plate.
SC +8000?
I'll bite.
Holtz had unprecedented recruiting success at South Carolina (RB Cory Boyd, for one). Spurrier is not walking up to an empty plate.
SC +8000?
I'll bite.
buddy & taoist,
holtz recruited players for an option type of an attack......not for the type of offense that spurrier plays......so the question is.....does so. carolina have a qb that can play spurrier type of football ?.....everything that i have read says....no.
i'm still sticking with fla. to win it all.
looking forward to both of your insights during the season.
good luck.
holtz recruited players for an option type of an attack......not for the type of offense that spurrier plays......so the question is.....does so. carolina have a qb that can play spurrier type of football ?.....everything that i have read says....no.
i'm still sticking with fla. to win it all.
looking forward to both of your insights during the season.
good luck.
AR182
I think there has to be some question marks about Meyer coaching in the SEC. SEC is vastly superior to the Mt. West.
Take USC as an example. Chow is prob. the #1 OC in college football and the USC offense SUCKED his first year at USC. I think dead last in Pac 10. Although FL clearly has more talent than USC did in year 1 of both coaching staffs. Point being the offense Chow ran at BYU would not work in the Pac 10. In the off-season Carroll and Chow changed it completely and came up with a hybrid of it.
I think Meyer's great offensive schemes and/or coaching style may need adjustments as well. Asking FL to go undefeated is quite a task. FL must learn new offense and execute it. Will the the offense work in the SEC? Good news is the west coast wide open attack worked well for Auburn in the SEC. So that is good sign for FL.
Utah was great last year but they didn't play anybody great or anybody with a great defense. I would have liked to seen that Utah offense tested more. It def. will be tested more in the SEC.
I think there has to be some question marks about Meyer coaching in the SEC. SEC is vastly superior to the Mt. West.
Take USC as an example. Chow is prob. the #1 OC in college football and the USC offense SUCKED his first year at USC. I think dead last in Pac 10. Although FL clearly has more talent than USC did in year 1 of both coaching staffs. Point being the offense Chow ran at BYU would not work in the Pac 10. In the off-season Carroll and Chow changed it completely and came up with a hybrid of it.
I think Meyer's great offensive schemes and/or coaching style may need adjustments as well. Asking FL to go undefeated is quite a task. FL must learn new offense and execute it. Will the the offense work in the SEC? Good news is the west coast wide open attack worked well for Auburn in the SEC. So that is good sign for FL.
Utah was great last year but they didn't play anybody great or anybody with a great defense. I would have liked to seen that Utah offense tested more. It def. will be tested more in the SEC.
scott,
of course i agree with you.......
but from the different articles that i have read......
fla. has as good as talent as anybody in the country because zook was a very good recruiter but not good at making game time adjustments.
and meyer is getting the players in the best playing shape as possible because he is running a tight camp as compared to zook running a lenient camp.
the key for fla. is their qb....& since he has experience i just think that this team will do very well.
of course i agree with you.......
but from the different articles that i have read......
fla. has as good as talent as anybody in the country because zook was a very good recruiter but not good at making game time adjustments.
and meyer is getting the players in the best playing shape as possible because he is running a tight camp as compared to zook running a lenient camp.
the key for fla. is their qb....& since he has experience i just think that this team will do very well.
so scooter, you agree the SEC is more popular,
the SEC fans are more passionate about football,
the SEC has more TV exposure,
the SEC gets more publicity,
the SEC has more tradition,
the SEC has been more dominate,
you agree to all this but you want me to try again?
Try again at what.... :mj07:
You spend fricken hours researching stats to spin
your weak ass conference....the rest of us have a
life....anyone can spend hours researching stats
to back ANY ARGUMENT....but there is no reward
in out stat-ing you because there are much more
important things in life than arguing with a rock
with time on it's hands....
why do you think the SEC is all of the above...
because it is a football conference...the Pac 10 is
not and never has been a football conference...
You don't get the credit because you don't
deserve it...you have to earn credibility....Your
team is hot...but be careful because all good things
must come to an end...what goes up must come
down...just ask the real powerhouses...OU, Miami,
Mich, Neb, Fla. ST, Fla, Tenn, Bama...once again,
if USC was in the SEC, Big 12, Big 10, or ACC...
a completely different story....but go ahead and
spend a couple of hours tonight going over your
material for the rebuttal......... :mj07:
the SEC fans are more passionate about football,
the SEC has more TV exposure,
the SEC gets more publicity,
the SEC has more tradition,
the SEC has been more dominate,
you agree to all this but you want me to try again?
Try again at what.... :mj07:
You spend fricken hours researching stats to spin
your weak ass conference....the rest of us have a
life....anyone can spend hours researching stats
to back ANY ARGUMENT....but there is no reward
in out stat-ing you because there are much more
important things in life than arguing with a rock
with time on it's hands....
why do you think the SEC is all of the above...
because it is a football conference...the Pac 10 is
not and never has been a football conference...
You don't get the credit because you don't
deserve it...you have to earn credibility....Your
team is hot...but be careful because all good things
must come to an end...what goes up must come
down...just ask the real powerhouses...OU, Miami,
Mich, Neb, Fla. ST, Fla, Tenn, Bama...once again,
if USC was in the SEC, Big 12, Big 10, or ACC...
a completely different story....but go ahead and
spend a couple of hours tonight going over your
material for the rebuttal......... :mj07:
