Halliburton third-quarter net income rises 19%

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Business remains good for the well-connected defrauders of the American taxpayer. Just warms my heart...


Halliburton third-quarter net income rises 19%
Associated Press - October 21, 2007 4:45 PM ET

HOUSTON (AP) - Halliburton said today its earnings rose 19% in the third quarter, as the company continues to expand its business in the Eastern Hemisphere.

The Houston-based oilfield services company reported net income of $727 million, or 79 cents a share, in the July-September period. That's compared to income of $611 million, or 58 cents a share, in the year-ago period.

The most-recent results included a favorable income tax impact valued at $133 million, or 15 cents a share.

Third-quarter revenue rose 16% to $3.93 billion.

According to Thomson Financial, the results matched analysts' average earnings estimate of 64 cents on revenue of $3.87 billion --- Excluding the income tax gain, .

Copyright 2007 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.
 

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Ya Hal is just So/So as investment. Has a little Div that helps. But many better places to make more.
In fact the greedy Hal could do better for there stock buyers.
 

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No real reason, Wayne. :rolleyes:

The main reasons it bothers me that Halliburton continues to make big coin should be rather obvious at this point. I can recap...

1. Unfettered and unmatched access to the oval office and Pentagon to secure and maintain the profits.

2. Not sure how many of the 309 global companies have defrauded the American taxpayer, continued to receive no-bid contracts, and then continued to defraud the American taxpayer.

That should be enough to justify my indignancy, for most people.
 

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gee, I wonder how HaL has done so well against the S&P with Big DICK in the WhiteHouse...guess its just because of all the wonderful work they do.


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btw, who give a rats ass that there are bigger companies on the planet? WTF is the point?
 

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Of course, to be fair, Haliburton is hardly alone in the war profiteering resulting in the raping and pillaging of our country at the hands of these treasonous criminals (all with the full support of good Limbaugh loving, George Bush voting, god fearing, pinko-liberal hating "Americans". Thanks for all youv'e done for this great country of ours.)

No. 1 and No. 2: CACI and Titan

In early 2005 CIA officials told the Washington Post that at least 50 percent of its estimated $40 billion budget for that year would go to private contractors, an astonishing figure that suggests that concerns raised about outsourcing intelligence have barely registered at the policymaking levels.

In 2004 the Orlando Sentinel reported on a case that illustrates what can go wrong: Titan employee Ahmed Fathy Mehalba, an Egyptian translator, was arrested for possessing classified information from the Guantanamo Bay prison camp.

Critics say that the abuses at Abu Ghraib are another example of how the lines can get blurred when contractors are involved in intelligence work. CACI provided a total of 36 interrogators in Iraq, including up to 10 at Abu Ghraib at any one time, according to the company. Although neither CACI, Titan or their employees have yet been charged with a crime, a leaked Army investigation implicated CACI employee Stephen Stefanowicz in the abuse of prisoners.

CACI and Titan's role at Abu Ghraib led the Center for Constitutional Rights to pursue companies and their employees in U.S. courts.

"We believe that CACI and Titan engaged in a conspiracy to torture and abuse detainees, and did so to make more money," says Susan Burke, an attorney hired by the Center for Constitutional Rights (CCR), whose lawsuit against the companies is proceeding into discovery before the Federal Court for the District of Columbia.

The private suits seem to have already had some effect: In September 2005 CACI announced that it would no longer do interrogation work in Iraq.

Titan, on the other hand, has so far escaped any serious consequences for its problems (in early 2005, it pleaded guilty to three felony international bribery charges and agreed to pay a record $28.5 million Foreign Corrupt Practices Act penalty). The company's contract with the Army has been extended numerous times and is currently worth over $1 billion. Last year L-3 Communications bought Titan as part of its emergence as the largest corporate intelligence conglomerate in the world.

No. 3: Bechtel: precast profits

The San Francisco-based construction and engineering giant received one of the largest no-bid contracts -- worth $2.4 billion -- to help coordinate and rebuild a large part of Iraq's infrastructure. But the company's reconstruction failures range from shoddy school repairs to failing to finish a large hospital in Basra on time and within budget.

Recall that USAID chief Andrew Natsios originally touted the reconstruction as a Middle Eastern "Marshall Plan." Natsios should have known that all would not go smoothly with Bechtel in the lead: Prior to joining the Bush administration, he was chief executive of the Massachusetts Turnpike Authority, where he oversaw the Big Dig -- whose costs exploded from $2.6 billion to $14.6 billion under Bechtel's lead.

In July, the company's reputation for getting things done unexpectedly plummeted like a 12-ton slab of concrete when Stuart Bowen, the special inspector general for Iraq Reconstruction (SIGIR), released an audit of the Basra Children's Hospital Project, which was $70 million to $90 million over budget, and a year and half behind schedule. Bechtel's contract to coordinate the project was immediately cancelled.

Now that the money is running out, American officials are beginning to blame Iraqis for mismanaging their own infrastructure. But as Bowen warns, contractors like Bechtel, the CPA and other contracting agencies will only have themselves to blame for failing to train Iraqi engineers to operate these facilities (esp. water, sewage and electricity) when they leave.

No. 4: Aegis Defense Services

The General Accounting Office (GAO) estimates 48,000 private security and military contractors (PMCs) are stationed in Iraq. The Pentagon's insistence on keeping a lid on military force requirements (thereby avoiding the need for a draft) is one reason for that astronomical growth, which has boosted the fortunes of the "corporate warriors" so much that observers project the industry will be a $200 billion per year business by 2010.

Yet the introduction of PMCs has put "both the military and security providers at a greater risk for injury," the General Accounting Office says, because PMCs fall outside the chain of command and do not operate under the Code of Military Justice.

George Washington University professor Deborah Avant, author of Market for Force and an expert on the industry, says that while established PMCs may act professionally, the government's willingness to contract with a few cowboy companies like Aegis -- a U.K.-based firm whose infamous founder and CEO Tim Spicer was implicated for breaking an arms embargo in Sierra Leone -- only reinforces the fear that U.S. foreign policy is being outsourced to corporate "mercenaries."

An industry insider told Avant that the $293 million contract was given despite the fact that American competitors had submitted lower bids, suggesting the government wanted to hire the foreign company to shield both sides of the transaction from accountability for any "dirty tricks."

Industry critics, including Rep. Jan Schakowsky, D-Ill., say that, at a minimum, Spicer's contract suggests that government agencies have failed to conduct adequate background checks. While it's hard to say how often PMCs have committed human rights violations in Iraq, the Charlotte News-Observer reported in March that security contractors regularly shoot into civilian cars. The problem was largely ignored until a "trophy video" of security guards firing with automatic rifles at civilian cars was posted on a web site traced back to Aegis.

Although the Army's Criminal Investigation Division says no charges will be filed against Aegis or its employees, critics say that only proves how unaccountable contractors are under current laws. Since the war on terror began, just one civilian, CIA contract interrogator David A. Passaro, has been convicted for felony assault associated with interrogation tactics.

Even The International Peace Operations Association, a fledgling industry trade association that insists the industry abides by stringent codes of conduct has rejected Aegis' bid to join its ranks.

No. 5: Custer Battles

In March, Custer Battles became the first Iraq occupation contractor to be found guilty of fraud. A jury ordered the company to pay more than $10 million in damages for 37 counts of fraud, including false billing. In August, however, the judge in the case dismissed most of the charges on a technicality, ruling that since the Coalition Provisional Authority was not strictly part of the U.S. government, there is no basis for the claim under U.S. law. Custer Battles' attorney Robert Rhoad says the company's owners were "ecstatic" about the decision, adding that "there simply was no evidence of fraud or an intent to defraud."

In fact the judge's ruling stated that the company had submitted "false and fraudulently inflated invoices." He also allowed the jury's verdict to stand against the company for retaliating against the whistleblowers that originally brought the case under the False Claims Act, the law that allows citizens to initiate a private right of action to recover money on taxpayers' behalf. During the trial, retired Brig. Gen. Hugh Tant III testified that the fraud "was probably the worst I've ever seen in my 30 years in the Army."

When Tant confronted Mike Battles, one of the company's owners, with the fact that 34 of 36 trucks supplied by the firm didn't work, he responded: "You asked for trucks and we complied with our contract and it is immaterial whether the trucks were operational."

The Custer Battles case is being watched closely by the contracting community, since many other fraud cases could hinge on the outcome. A backlog of 70 fraud cases is pending against various contractors. Who they are is anyone's guess (one case was recently settled against Halliburton subcontractor EGL for $4 million), since cases filed under the False Claims Act are sealed and prevented from moving forward until the government decides whether or not it will join the case. The means some companies accused of fraud have yet to be publicly identified, which makes it difficult for federal contracting officers to suspend or debar them from any new contracts. The U.S. Air Force moved to suspend Custer Battles from new contracts in September 2004, after the alleged fraud was revealed.

In May, however, the Wall Street Journal reported that attempts were made to bypass the suspension order by two former top Navy officials who had formed a company that purchased the remnants of Custer Battles. Meanwhile, Alan Grayson, the attorney who filed the Custer Battles case, says that because of orders passed by the CPA, Iraqis have no chance of recovering any of the $20 billion in Iraqi money used to pay U.S. contractors. The CPA effectively created a "free fraud zone," Grayson says.

No. 6: General Dynamics

Most of the big defense contractors have done well as a result of the war on terror. The five-year chart for Lockheed Martin, for instance, reveals that the company's stock has doubled in value since 2001.

Yet The Washington Post reported in July that industry analysts agree that of the large defense contractors, the one that has received the most direct benefit from the war in Iraq is General Dynamics. Much of that has to do with the fact that the company has focused its large combat systems business on supplying the Army with everything from bullets to tank shells to Stryker vehicles, which made their debut during the 2003 invasion.

In July, the Post reported that the company's profits have tripled since 9/11. That should make some people happy, including David K Heebner, a former top aide to Army Chief of Staff Eric Shinseki, who was hired by General Dynamics in 1999, a year before the Stryker contract was sealed. According to Defense watchdogs at the Project on Government Oversight (POGO), General Dynamics formally announced it was hiring Heebner on November 20, 1999, just one month after Shinseki announced a new "vision" to transform the Army by moving away from tracked armored vehicles toward wheeled light-armored vehicles, and more than a month prior to Heebner's official retirement date of Dec. 31, 1999.

Less than a year and a half later, Heebner was present for the rollout of the first Stryker in Alabama, where he was recognized by Shinseki for his work in the Army on the Stryker project.

Although the Pentagon's inspector general concluded from a preliminary investigation that Heebner had properly recused himself from any involvement in projects involving his prospective employer once he had been offered the job, critics say the current ethics rules are too weak.

"It's clear that the Army was leaning toward handing a multibillion-dollar contract to General Dynamics at the very time Heebner may have been in negotiations with the company for a high-paying executive position," says Jeffrey St. Clair, author of Grand Theft Pentagon, a sweeping review of war-profiteering during the "war on terror."

Heebner's case is similar to Boeing's infamous courtship of Darlene Druyan, the Air Force acquisition officer who was eventually sentenced to nine months in prison and seven months in a halfway house for arranging a $250,000 a year job for herself on the other side of the revolving door while negotiating contracts for the Air Force that were favorable to Boeing.

This March, Heebner reported owning 33,500 shares in the company, worth over $ 4 million, along with 21,050 options.

Not everyone has been happy with the outcome of the Stryker contract. Tom Christie, the Pentagon's director of operational testing and evaluation, sent a classified letter to Donald Rumsfeld before it was deployed in Iraq, warning that the $3 million vehicle was not ready for heavy fire. Meanwhile, the GAO warned of serious deficiencies in vehicle training provided, a concern that turned serious when soldiers accidentally drove the Stryker into the Tigris rivers. Despite public praise from top Army officials, an internal Army report leaked to the Post in March 2005 revealed that the vehicles deployed in Iraq have been plagued with inoperable gear and maintenance problems that are "getting worse not better."

Perhaps as insurance against any flap, General Dynamics has added former Attorney General John Ashcroft to its stable of high-powered lobbyists. Working the account are Juleanna Glover Weiss, Vice President Dick Cheney's former press secretary, Lori Day Sharp, Ashcroft's former assistant, and Willie Gaynor, a former Commerce Department official who also worked for the 2004 Bush-Cheney reelection campaign.

No. 7: Nour USA Ltd.

Incorporated shortly after the war began, Nour has received $400 million in Iraq contracts, including an $80 million contract to provide oil pipeline security that critics say came through the assistance of Ahmed Chalabi, Iraq's No. 1 opportunist, who was influential in dragging the United States into the current quagmire with misleading assertions about WMDs. Chalabi has denied reports that he received a $2 million finder's fee, but other bidders on the contract point out that Nour had no prior related experience and that its bid on the oil security contract was too low to be credible. Another company consultant who hasn't denied getting paid to help out is William Cohen, the former defense secretary under President Clinton. Many Iraqis now believe that Chalabi is America's hand-picked choice to rule Iraq, despite being a wanted fugitive from justice in Jordan and despite being accused of passing classified information along to Iran. Iyad Allawi, a potential rival for power in Iraq, has publicly criticized Chalabi for creating contracts for work that he says should be the responsibility of the state.

No. 8, No. 9 and No. 10: Chevron, ExxonMobil and the Petro-imperialists

Three years into the occupation, after an evolving series of deft legal maneuvers and manipulative political appointments, the oil giants' takeover of Iraq's oil is nearly complete.

A key milestone in the process occurred in September 2004, when U.S.-appointed Interim Prime Minister Iyad Allawi preempted Iraq's January 2005 elections (and the subsequent drafting of the Constitution) by writing guidelines intended to form the basis of a new petroleum law. Allawi's policy would effectively exclude the government from any future involvement in oil production, while promising to privatize the Iraqi National Oil Co. Although Allawi is no longer in power, his plans heavily influenced future thinking on oil policy.

Helping the process move along are the economic hit men at BearingPoint, the consultants whose latest contract calls for "private-sector involvement in strategic sectors, including privatization, asset sales, concessions, leases and management contracts, especially those in the oil and supporting industries."

For their part, the oil industry giants have kept a relatively low profile throughout the process, lending just a few senior statesmen to the CPA, including Philip Carroll (Shell U.S., Fluor), Rob McKee (ConocoPhillips and Halliburton) and Norm Szydlowski (ChevronTexaco), the CPA's liaison to the fledgling Iraqi Oil Ministry. Greg Muttitt of U.K. nonprofit Platform says Chevron, Shell and ConocoPhillips are among the most ambitious of all the major oil companies in Iraq. Shell and Chevron have already signed agreements with the Iraqi government and begun to train Iraqi staff and conduct studies -- arrangements that give the companies vital access to Oil Ministry officials and geological data.

Although Iraqi Oil Minister Hussain al-Shahristani said in August that the final competition for developing Iraq's oil fields will be wide open, the preliminary arrangements will give the oil giants a distinct advantage when it comes time to bid. The relative level of interest by the big oil companies depends on their appetite for risk, and their need for reserves. Shell, for example, has performed worse than most of its peers in finding new reserves in recent years -- a fact underscored by a 2004 scandal in which the company was caught lying to its investors. At this point the key challenge to multinationals is whether they can convince the Iraqi parliament to pass a new petroleum law by the end of this year.

A key provision in the new law is a commitment to using production sharing agreements (PSAs), which will lock the government into a long-term commitment (up to 50 years) to sharing oil revenues, and restrict its right to introduce any new laws that might affect the companies' profitability. Greg Muttitt of Platform says the PSAs are designed to favor private companies at the expense of exporting governments, which is why none of the top oil producing countries in the Middle East use them. Under the new petroleum law, all new fields and some existing fields would be opened up to private companies through the use of PSAs. Since less than 20 of Iraq's 80 known oil fields have already been developed, if Iraq's government commits to signing the PSAs, it could cost the country up to nearly $200 billion in lost revenues according to Muttitt, lead researcher for "Crude Designs: the Rip-Off of Iraq's Oil Wealth."

Meanwhile, in a kind of pincer movement, the parliament has begun to feel pressured from the IMF to adopt the new oil law by the end of the year as part of "conditionalities" imposed under a new debt relief agreement. Of course pressuring a country as volatile as Iraq to agree to any kind of arrangement without first allowing for legitimate parliamentary debate is fraught with peril. It is a risky way to nurture democracy in a country that already appears to be entering into a civil war.

"If misjudged -- either by denying a fair share to the regions in which oil is located, or by giving regions too much autonomy at the expense of national cohesion -- these oil decisions could fracture, and ultimately break apart, the country," Muttitt suggests.
 

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WOW Did you figure out Haliburton would/should profit from a war all by yourself--your a financial wizard.

If you had only been smart enough to think to buy some stock--similiar to your rant on gas prices--if you'd bought some China Petro @ $39 a couple years ago and you could by a lot of gas (plus a couple cars to put it in) on the over $255 a share per today.

Thats the diff between a half full :)
and half empty :cry:
attitude!!!!!!!!!!!!

Now go back to your liberal blogs and find something else to whine about tomorrow--while the rest of the world searches for opportunities.
 

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For all the American dead from Iraq, you got to feel good about Haliburton making a profit.
 

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WOW Did you figure out Haliburton would/should profit from a war all by yourself--your a financial wizard.

If you had only been smart enough to think to buy some stock--similiar to your rant on gas prices--if you'd bought some China Petro @ $39 a couple years ago and you could by a lot of gas (plus a couple cars to put it in) on the over $255 a share per today.

Thats the diff between a half full :)
and half empty :cry:
attitude!!!!!!!!!!!!

Now go back to your liberal blogs and find something else to whine about tomorrow--while the rest of the world searches for opportunities.

Seriously only a true whackjob would say something like this. A guy who acts like he is a fiscal conservative and cries when the democrats spend one cent but this astronimical amount of our taxes being pissed away just like that is okay with him. Noooooooooo problem with it.Gotta love it.
 

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Cheney makes a pretty dollar off American blood

Cheney makes a pretty dollar off American blood

Cheney?s Halliburton Stock Rose Over 3000 Percent Last Year

Sources:
Raw Story, October 2005
Title: ?Cheney?s Halliburton Stock Options Rose 3,281 Percent Last Year, Senator Finds?
Author: John Byrne

Senator Frank Lautenberg?s website
Title: ?Cheney?s Halliburton Stock Options Soar to $9.2 Million?

Faculty Evaluator: Phil Beard
Student Researchers: Matthew Beavers and Willie Martin

Vice President Dick Cheney?s stock options in Halliburton rose from $241,498 in 2004 to over $8 million in 2005, an increase of more than 3,000 percent, as Halliburton continues to rake in billions of dollars from no-bid/no-audit government contracts.

An analysis released by Senator Frank Lautenberg (D-NJ) reveals that as Halliburton?s fortunes rise, so do the Vice President?s. Halliburton has already taken more than $10 billion from the Bush-Cheney administration for work in Iraq. They were also awarded many of the unaccountable post-Katrina government contracts, as off-shore subsidiaries of Halliburton quietly worked around U.S. sanctions to conduct very questionable business with Iran (See Story #2). ?It is unseemly,? notes Lautenberg, ?for the Vice President to continue to benefit from this company at the same time his administration funnels billions of dollars to it.?

According to the Vice President?s Federal Financial Disclosure forms, he holds the following Halliburton stock options:

100,000 shares at $54.5000 (vested), expire December 3, 2007
33,333 shares at $28.1250 (vested), expire December 2, 2008
300,000 shares at $39.5000 (vested), expire December 2, 2009

The Vice President has attempted to fend off criticism by signing an agreement to donate the after-tax profits from these stock options to charities of his choice, and his lawyer has said he will not take any tax deduction for the donations. However, the Congressional Research Service (CRS) concluded in September 2003 that holding stock options while in elective office does constitute a ?financial interest? regardless of whether the holder of the options will donate proceeds to charities. Valued at over $9 million, the Vice President could exercise his stock options for a substantial windfall, not only benefiting his designated charities, but also providing Halliburton with a tax deduction.

CRS also found that receiving deferred compensation is a financial interest. The Vice President continues to receive deferred salary from Halliburton. While in office, he has received the following salary payments from Halliburton:

Deferred salary paid by Halliburton to Vice President Cheney in 2001: $205,298
Deferred salary paid by Halliburton to Vice President Cheney in 2002: $162,392
Deferred salary paid by Halliburton to Vice President Cheney in 2003: $178,437
Deferred salary paid by Halliburton to Vice President Cheney in 2004: $194,852

(The CRS report can be downloaded at: http://lautenberg.senate.gov/Report.pdf)

These CRS findings contradict Vice President Cheney?s puzzling view that he does not have a financial interest in Halliburton. On the September 14, 2003 edition of Meet the Press in response to questions regarding his relationship with Halliburton, where from 1995 to 2000 he was employed as CEO, Vice President Cheney said, ?Since I left Halliburton to become George Bush?s vice president, I?ve severed all my ties with the company, gotten rid of all my financial interest. I have no financial interest in Halliburton of any kind and haven?t had, now, for over three years.?

Comment: A similar undercovered story of conflicting interest and disaster profiteering by those in the top echelon of the U.S. Government is of Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld?s connections to Gilead Sciences, the biotech company that owns the rights to Tamiflu?the influenza remedy that is now the most-sought after drug in the world. This story was brought forward by Fortune senior writer, Nelson D. Schwartz, on October 31, 2005 in an article titled ?Rumsfeld?s growing stake in Tamiflu,? and by F. William Engdahl for GlobalResearch, on October 30, 2005, in an article titled ?Is avian flu another Pentagon hoax??

Rumsfeld served as Gilead?s chairman from 1997 until he joined the Bush administration in 2001, and he still holds a Gilead stake valued at between $5 million and $25 million, according to Federal Financial Disclosures filed by Rumsfeld.
The forms don?t reveal the exact number of shares Rumsfeld owns, but whipped up fears of an avian flu pandemic and the ensuing scramble for Tamiflu sent Gilead?s stock from $35 to $47 in 2005, making the Pentagon chief, already one of the wealthiest members of the Bush cabinet, at least $1 million richer.

What?s more, the federal government is emerging as one of the world?s biggest customers for Tamiflu. In July 2005, the Pentagon ordered $58 million worth of the treatment for U.S. troops around the world, and Congress is considering a multibillion dollar purchase. Roche expects 2005 sales for Tamiflu to total at about $1 billion, compared with $258 million in 2004.

UPDATE BY JOHN BYRNE
The media has routinely downplayed Cheney?s involvement and financial investment in Halliburton, one of the largest U.S. defense contractors that received supersized no-bid contracts in Iraq. Ultimately, the importance of the story is that the Vice President of the U.S. is able to use his position of power to reap rewards for his former company in which he has a financial investment. Halliburton may also benefit from a chilling effect in which the Pentagon is more likely to favor Cheney?s firm to seek favor with the White House.

Cheney continues to hold 433,333 Halliburton stock options, and receives a deferred salary of about $200,000 a year. According to Cheney?s most recent tax returns, he held $2.5 million in retirement accounts, much of which likely came from his former defense firm.

Cheney recently filed disclosure reports that show he is valued at $94 million.

Senator Lautenberg?s disclosure, brought forward by Raw Story, received no mainstream coverage. While the press has often noted that Cheney was formerly Halliburton?s CEO, they routinely fail to mention how much money he accrued from the firm during his service there. They also fail to mention that he continues to receive a pension.

RawStory.com regularly reports on Halliburton and contracts awarded to the company. SourceWatch.org also has a good library of resources on Halliburton and other defense contractors as well as the Vice President.Another way to get involved is to contact your local senator or representatives about your concerns, and to ask them to push the Vice President to sell his stock options in Halliburton.
 

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"China Petro @ $39"

Wayne, DTB, I am done. You win. GW is the saviour and the only thing to talk about is how can we learn from Iraq and fvck up Iran. No more Vietnams.

BTW, check when Buffett bought China Petro, cause thats when I bought it (kinda a late stupid strat of mine, I buy what the Berkshire guru likes). Also, check out what Buffett has to say about your ilk. When are you moving to China?

Just so you know Wayne, I love KY, my uncle was asst. state atty in the old Blue Grass state, my cousin was captain of the UK Football team, and my Dads brother does good dental work in Paducah. You box people in, and that is not right.

I can back it all up Wayne, just please, please, mix it up.
 
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Jabbers your "Raw Story" article is from 05 if you'd pay attention--and Cheney gave all his profits to charity--

I'll go back to my initial recommendation --get off these liberal blogs and find out whats really going on in the world--

On Haliburton/Cheney you might want to read fact check org
http://www.factcheck.org/article261.html

--and on Buffet--maybe his "rare interview" on FOX's new business channel might enlighten you.
Thats if you beklieve what he says vs what your blogs tell you :)
heres his interview-
http://www.foxbusiness.com/article/buffett-tells-fox-hes-sold-petrochina-stake_324677_1.html
+++++++++++++++++++
When your finished you might want to report back and inform others on the "facts" of both matters.;)

---and I will be heading back to China in a little over a month FYI.
Will be checking out a couple companies there
and be looking into bother-in-law-opening stock account for me there--as will liquidate all stocks here not in SEP or regular ira--in case your crew raises capital gain tax.
Will look into selling/giving him majority ownership of my company--cutting your small business tax increases off at the knees--
Will look into purchasing property--only pay property tax once in China-at time of sale.

You see Spy I can look at all your proposed tax increases as doom and gloom or as a challenge to reduce what I'm already paying. I don't mind paying my fair share--but if it gets overbearing I can get down to any income necessary--and be the recipient rather than funder of your entitlement programs.
--and I won't be by myself--you can bet the farm you will see many boomers convert their business to LLC's prior to reaching 62.;)
 

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Just dropped by to see how the "Bush is an idiot, war for oil, Fortney "Pete" Stark for president" crowd is doing. I see everyone's active and full of conspiracy.
I would shoot down each one (conspiracy) individually, but that would constitute a waste of my time, and you folks have had far too much Kool-Aid for one day.
Hey, look on the bright side, I hear Michael Richards' run at the Comedy Club is over and you guys could do a group act. I laugh my axx off reading this stuff; you guys should be a hit.
 

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"Jabbers your "Raw Story" article is from 05 if you'd pay attention"

Spy posted that story. Gl in China. God Bless America.
 
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Just dropped by to see how the "Bush is an idiot, war for oil, Fortney "Pete" Stark for president" crowd is doing. I see everyone's active and full of conspiracy.
I would shoot down each one (conspiracy) individually, but that would constitute a waste of my time, and you folks have had far too much Kool-Aid for one day.
Hey, look on the bright side, I hear Michael Richards' run at the Comedy Club is over and you guys could do a group act. I laugh my axx off reading this stuff; you guys should be a hit.

What conspiracy are you talking about?
 

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"--and on Buffet--maybe his "rare interview" on FOX's new business channel might enlighten you.
Thats if you beklieve what he says vs what your blogs tell you"

In his interview, it says he sold his shares in China Petro, admittedly a bit too soon. Wtf is your point?
 

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Just dropped by to see how the "Bush is an idiot, war for oil, Fortney "Pete" Stark for president" crowd is doing. I see everyone's active and full of conspiracy.
I would shoot down each one (conspiracy) individually, but that would constitute a waste of my time, and you folks have had far too much Kool-Aid for one day.
Hey, look on the bright side, I hear Michael Richards' run at the Comedy Club is over and you guys could do a group act. I laugh my axx off reading this stuff; you guys should be a hit.

Although I have no real idea what the content of this post was about other than to make a simplistic rip post (succeeded...), I would enjoy hearing your assessment about my points about Halliburton and as an American taxpayer if you have a problem with it. I don't consider the Halliburton connection a conspiracy at all, I consider it far above board and sadly out in the open. Maybe you weren't referring to my post, maybe you were, but I invite you to waste a couple minutes of your time if you care to.
 

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And, Wayne, I do wonder what your opinion of my two points about Halliburton are. AS A TAXPAYER who is continually upset about paying so much and cutting spending, seems to me the Halliburton situation (defrauding, and getting new contracts, and defrauding again) would bother you.
 

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And, Wayne, I do wonder what your opinion of my two points about Halliburton are. AS A TAXPAYER who is continually upset about paying so much and cutting spending, seems to me the Halliburton situation (defrauding, and getting new contracts, and defrauding again) would bother you.

why would white collar crime bother him? By the way another 1.2 billion dollars has come up missing that was supposed to go to training the Iraq's. another company stole this loot.
 
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