reds have 1st and 2nd, no out, bottom 10th, tied at 3 with griffey up. do you bunt griffey? they didn't, he hit into a double play and SF gets out of the inning. I wouldn't have bunted griffey either. who would have?
here's that bunt situation again
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In this situation, Jack, I think they were wrong.
They only need one run to win. The thing is, I would bet Jr doesn't even know how to lay down a bunt! Like you intoned: When has he had to do it?
Bunt the runners over, get a fly ball, and go home.
Just my idea.
They only need one run to win. The thing is, I would bet Jr doesn't even know how to lay down a bunt! Like you intoned: When has he had to do it?
Bunt the runners over, get a fly ball, and go home.
Just my idea.
I wouldn't have him bunt either . No outs
let him hit away. Give him the chance to drive one deep and at least get the tag to 3rd., if he gets a hit all the better.
let him hit away. Give him the chance to drive one deep and at least get the tag to 3rd., if he gets a hit all the better.
Well, I for one would have at home with a chance to put a man on 3rd with less than 2 outs in extra innings. Sac fly wins it. Casey up with 2 men in scoring position is worth it to win the game even taking the bat out of Griffey's hands. THey are now down 4-3, btw.
the bunt is probably the right call. if it was the top of the 10th, i'd say hit away for sure, but that still doen't change what i would have done. i hit away like RAZ says.
he's facing a lefty and probably hasn't bunted since little league. also, is it tougher to bunt lefty vs. lefty? sounds like it might be.
he's facing a lefty and probably hasn't bunted since little league. also, is it tougher to bunt lefty vs. lefty? sounds like it might be.
There is a baseball coach in our area(college) that I know for sure what he would have done. For one thing, if he managed a big league team, every player would be familiar with bunting. Including the stars. That's the way he played the game.
But players' egos are involved today. It gets in the way of managers' stratagies.
But players' egos are involved today. It gets in the way of managers' stratagies.
hell yes you bunt him you are the home team,move the runners over they walk the next guy.
sf plays corners even middle half fot 2, then you have your hitter reach the of with the first strike if he fails you can either safety squeeze or 2 more shots at fly ball and tell runner on first he is moving on contact down to stay out of 2,
didnot watch but that was stupid as hell.
sf plays corners even middle half fot 2, then you have your hitter reach the of with the first strike if he fails you can either safety squeeze or 2 more shots at fly ball and tell runner on first he is moving on contact down to stay out of 2,
didnot watch but that was stupid as hell.
HELL YES U BUNT. It hink I started a thread earlier in the month about this. I dont care if you are freakin superman, u BUNT. besides, what has Griffey done this year for ya?
After further consideration, I would bunt him. I am only saying that because I needed the Giants an a small play and the Cubs in a
larger posted play. Let him hit.
larger posted play. Let him hit.
I still think that all sports would be played more for the team if you payed these guys only when they won. Sure, the star gets more money than the journeyman. But they only get payed for a W. Bet you'd see some team play then.
don't think you bunt in this situation. sorrry guys, not with griffey up. baseball is different now, griffey is one of the guys that you rarely see sacrific at all, even in this spot. fans want to see him hit, most everyone probably does except for the baseball purists and whoever has money on the reds.
wigs i have to differ on that,i have only been out of coaching for alittle over 5 years.
durning my 10 + years of coaching i was at d1 and proball for 3years. i really don't think the game passed me up that fast or i hope not
not from a handicapping stand point but from a coaching side when you are the home team tied in the bottom of the 9th with a chance to increase your chance of winning you take it,on the road you let him hit and go for the big inning but not at home.
good luck on wen.
durning my 10 + years of coaching i was at d1 and proball for 3years. i really don't think the game passed me up that fast or i hope not
not from a handicapping stand point but from a coaching side when you are the home team tied in the bottom of the 9th with a chance to increase your chance of winning you take it,on the road you let him hit and go for the big inning but not at home.
good luck on wen.
I think you have to bunt, no matter who is up. First of all, with Griffey's bad leg, he's not as fast to break up the DP. Secondly, CASEY has been a much better clutch hitter all year for them and being a contact hitter, I'd take my chances of getting the runner in from third with CASEY. Of course, as mentioned by Fletcher, they would probably intentionally walk the bases loaded, but then you have to worry about PB, WP, HBP, or in the case of TOR/SEA, a walk to win.
I hate the way manager's HAVE to manage around these fricking egos... no way to handicap that crap. SEATTLE is one team that will do whatever it takes, doesn't matter who the batter is. That's why they are where they are. Sure there are EGOS in MARINER land, but most got shipped out long ago, and the ones that remain think TEAM first.
Baseball is still baseball... you move the guy over and try for the FLY BALL. Knowing you can hit the ball and have it caught and still win, takes a lot of pressure off the batter.
I hate the way manager's HAVE to manage around these fricking egos... no way to handicap that crap. SEATTLE is one team that will do whatever it takes, doesn't matter who the batter is. That's why they are where they are. Sure there are EGOS in MARINER land, but most got shipped out long ago, and the ones that remain think TEAM first.
Baseball is still baseball... you move the guy over and try for the FLY BALL. Knowing you can hit the ball and have it caught and still win, takes a lot of pressure off the batter.
I have to side with Jack here. If the Reds are playing for a wild card spot then I think you bunt griffey. But being 20 games under .500 and no shot at the playoffs then I say swing away griffey. Yeah he hit into a double play but I would let him swing. The only way I bunt there is if Wilton Guerrero was at bat. Again for a team with no shot at the playoffs good move. Backfired but good move.
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I can tell you first hand, out here in Seattle we had to watch years of that chit.
Everybody swinging from their heels and to hell with playing sound baseball. We had some great stars then but we didn't win except for a couple of so so years. It was Griffey, Buhner etc. bashing away but we still lost. I can't ever remember either Buhner or Griffey laying one down for the good of the team. I agree with Fletcher, it's automatic for a baseball coach. Oh by the way I was one of the few who didn't mind seeing Griffey go and I like the present style of play a whole lot better. Even if the Mariners don't go all the way this year, they are fun to watch because you can appreciate the game of baseball again.
I can tell you first hand, out here in Seattle we had to watch years of that chit.
Everybody swinging from their heels and to hell with playing sound baseball. We had some great stars then but we didn't win except for a couple of so so years. It was Griffey, Buhner etc. bashing away but we still lost. I can't ever remember either Buhner or Griffey laying one down for the good of the team. I agree with Fletcher, it's automatic for a baseball coach. Oh by the way I was one of the few who didn't mind seeing Griffey go and I like the present style of play a whole lot better. Even if the Mariners don't go all the way this year, they are fun to watch because you can appreciate the game of baseball again.
At home you must bunt. To do anything else is really bucking the odds. Problem is, Griffey probably cannot bunt. Blame for that goes to the manager - yet hard to blame him because i'm sure junior carries a little more weight with the big shots. However, putting runners on 2nd and 3rd accomplishes 2 things. One, score on fly ball. Two, infield must draw in and that makes it easier for a ground ball to go through.
