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Ive recently been making my NFL selections based on where I see the money moving and its just very obvious in some cases that there is some "influence" going on which makes my selections even better. You have to look at the big picture. There is so much freakin mula involved in NFL betting and just exactly which underground organization takes alot of that action? So to say that corruption doesnt or couldnt seep its way into NFL wagering is simply naive or plain old ignorant. I guess Im part of the new recruit Sponge. You should come up with a name for your clan of believers.
 

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easy enough to say games are fixed, and I'm not opposed to believing some are. However, it's a bfd until you can come up with which games are fixed beforehand and bet into that info. When that happens, please post away.
 

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Uts even easier to say that games arent ever fixed but there is definite proof now that NBA refs have engaged in influencing games so to think that the league most widely bet (the NFL) doesnt have that element is naive. Unless you know someone involved you have only one other choice and thats to watch where the money is moving. Goodluck
 

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Uts even easier to say that games arent ever fixed but there is definite proof now that NBA refs have engaged in influencing games so to think that the league most widely bet (the NFL) doesnt have that element is naive. Unless you know someone involved you have only one other choice and thats to watch where the money is moving. Goodluck

Dont ever think the way the line is moving is a sure sign on where the money is going. Just look at the heavy plays from last week. Tenn a heavy bet and the line moves to Atlanta:shrug: Houston a heavy bet but the line moved to Miami:shrug: New Orleans a heavy bet but the line moves to Carolina. Greenbay a heavy bet but the line stays the same and at the sneaky places they keep it at three with high juice knowing very well that if they move it to 3.5 this may swing some Chicago money which they didn't want. Dallas very heavily bet yet the line doesn't move anywhere:shrug: these books like to mislead and that is why they all move the line together. Never trust a books consensus site. I know a lot of guys swear by Sport Insi and Carib but if you ever see a tie at Carib which is one books wagers go to Sports In which is supposed to be five books and you will see the same team with a tie but thousands more wagers. I could see this happening once but every time? I called them on this and they blew me off like it not impossible for this to happen and then after the third time the guy at Sports In said maybe there is a problem. I said yeah the problem is you are misleading people or someone is screwing with you.
 

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what if there are two groups of people fixing games, and each one tries to "fix" a different side of the same game?
or are the "fixers" in cahoots with each other too?

with as rampant as fixes are in the nfl, i can't believe we have not had an instance where both team A and Team B are in on the fix but for different sides.
 

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what if there are two groups of people fixing games, and each one tries to "fix" a different side of the same game?
or are the "fixers" in cahoots with each other too?

with as rampant as fixes are in the nfl, i can't believe we have not had an instance where both team A and Team B are in on the fix but for different sides.

Usually ends in a push
 

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Whats the best way to read where the money is actually moving then Sponge?

Its all about reading the line. You see a line that is ridiculous, this is one way. If i see a line that is dead on in my mind i cross that play off the board. If you are not able to do that because it does take a lot of experience then find a contest on the web that has no agenda and use their consensus site. there are a lot other things i factor in. I posted (possibly in this thread) the games i feel the public will be all over this week. I know there is no way i will take the other side but there is a chance with other things i do i may get off that game.
 

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what if there are two groups of people fixing games, and each one tries to "fix" a different side of the same game?
or are the "fixers" in cahoots with each other too?

with as rampant as fixes are in the nfl, i can't believe we have not had an instance where both team A and Team B are in on the fix but for different sides.

Marine there is only one group that does this and it is the leagues. Why do you think they won't post the refs who are doing what games? they know guys like me know who the crooked ones are. Two years ago there was a black ref named Johnny Greer. This guy called the game straight and if i bet a bad team and had him reffing i knew i was cooked. But these snakes just wouldn't let me know who was reffing before the game started. They threw up a lame excuse about it being a security issue and i asked them how about posting it 5 minutes before the game. This guys games use to last about an hour longer than everyone else because he called every freaking penalty. Madden use to say what a great ref he was but somehow he lost his job. I didn't shed any tears because this guy had killed me over the years. He was black and his voice was a little femine, and he was a little heavy. Do you remember him?
 

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Hell, they have lines in Caersars Palace on sunday during football season that have 5000 min wagers 40 deep. Unfortunately the know it alls, that know nothing, find this completely out of touch. I wish they would put there money where there mouth is but i doubt they would just rather call me a liar. I thought i saw where you said you will be in Vegas on Sunday. Could you kindly go ask the lady at the sports book about this so i can show once again who knows what around here.
Yes Smurphy, would you please do this. :142smilie
 

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Oh and Marine if there is another group that tries to do this behind the leagues back they will bann him for life while drug pushers, rapist, murderers, dogfighters and a whole bunch of misfits are welcome back. That guys name would be Pete Rose.
 

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amongst many it seems.

you'd be good selling pots and pans and vacuums door to door.

seriously.

Jack lets go back to a few things i said this and last week.
A. I said that Hassleback would make sure that game goes under. I said this before the game got started and he got shut out. The same Hassleback who shredded the Tampa Bay defense
B. I said that Paul Bryd would turn into cy Young last night and sure as hell he shut down that high power offense of the Yanks. Paul Bryd is a mediocre pitcher
C. I said that in the Phillies game that there would be a power outage. Two third string pitchers who both stink were in a pitchers duel shutting down the two best offenses in the league
D. During the 2nd half i did a little play by play on what that snake Favre would pull because i sense now was the time he would pull his shit and again was dead on.
Now you can turn your head as much as you want and poke fun at me but the fact of the matter is this all happen just like i said and before the fact. Something that is extremely hard to do but i did it. You have your opinion and i have mine. Calling me and ass but watching all these predictions come true is laughable. I know some of you guys have your team jerseys and your big heads plastered all over your walls and will never believe this sort of thing can happen but what can i do?
 

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easy enough to say games are fixed, and I'm not opposed to believing some are. However, it's a bfd until you can come up with which games are fixed beforehand and bet into that info. When that happens, please post away.

We already did, TWICE, in one fukcing week. Catch up will ya Southerner..

If we have to explain everything to you, we aren't going to accept you.
 

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what about all of your predictions that don't work out like you say? huh? :shrug:

there are many more of those where you are wrong than the one you hit occasionally.

you should be rich, man, not here trying to show us the end of the rainbow.

:rolleyes:

i'll just stay away because your ignorance and bullshiot annoys me.
 

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Yes Smurphy, would you please do this. :142smilie

Its gonna be my pleasure to show you what a true fool you are. To think in the gambling capital of the world this isn't possible is commical. Put your money where your mouth is big guy. You called me an out and out liar. I will even give you 2 to 1 odds.
 

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I know some of you guys have your team jerseys and your big heads plastered all over your walls

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Jack has a Ray Lewis Big Head.
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:142smilie :142smilie :142smilie
 

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what about all of your predictions that don't work out like you say? huh? :shrug:

there are many more of those where you are wrong than the one you hit occasionally.

you should be rich, man, not here trying to show us the end of the rainbow.

:rolleyes:

i'll just stay away because your ignorance and bullshiot annoys me.

one prediction Jack? Just because it is bullshit in your eyes i guess it is a clear cut bullshit? Because you have a different opinion my stuff is ignorant and bullshit? This is always a touchy subject so i will end it. Some day people will realize that i have nothing to gain by saying this. These sites are allegedly about helping others and if im right (which i know i am) there couldn't possibly be a bigger service to fellow posters. A service which is saving them money.
 
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