Hillary down for the count

[THE KOD]

FROM CNN?s Jack Cafferty:

If you?re looking for clues, try this one: Hillary Clinton will give her post-primary speech in New York tomorrow night. The thing is: New York is not voting, Montana and South Dakota are.:0corn

Campaign aides say staffers who worked for Clinton in those two states and Puerto Rico have been invited to attend the event or go home and await further instructions. Here?s another clue: it?s being reported that the campaign?s finance department is asking Clinton staffers to turn in their outstanding expenses by the end of the week.:00hour

Clinton has also has planned a rally with her husband and daughter in South Dakota tonight, the kind of reunion she usually saves for election nights. Meanwhile, former President Bill Clinton said that today may be his last day campaigning for his wife.:SIB

All this would seem to indicate that the end is near. The news comes on the heels of a weekend where Clinton swept up in Puerto Rico, yet was frustrated by the decision of the rules committee. With just two contests to go, Clinton continues to trail Barack Obama in the ever-important categories of pledged delegates and superdelegates.

Nevertheless, Clinton is making the argument that she leads in the popular vote and that by the time all the votes are counted, she will have won more votes ?than anyone in the history of the primary process.? The problem here is this is only true if you include Michigan and Florida, and don?t include some of the caucus states.
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Could it be , could it be.

Hillary gets the word from the Dem party to just bow out gracevully and quit being such a beeeeach.

You gotta believe !

 

[djv]

:scared :shrug: :nono: BUT it's all so good.:00hour

 

[THE KOD]

The Office of President Bill Clinton responded with fury Sunday to a Vanity Fair article that attacks the former president and suggests he is out of control personally and consumed by ?cavernous narcissism.?

The article, which hits newsstands next week, was distributed to the media and online in advance of its publication. The author, Todd Purdum, has covered Clinton for 16 years. He is married to former Clinton Press Secretary Dee Dee Myers.
?A tawdry, anonymous quote-filled attack piece, published in this month?s Vanity Fair magazine regarding former President Bill Clinton repeats many past attacks on him, ignores much prior positive coverage, includes numerous errors, and ultimately breaks no new ground. It is, in short, journalism of personal destruction at its worst,? reads a statement from the office of the president.

?Though (Purdum) researched the piece for several months, his first contact with President Clinton?s office was several weeks before he closed the story. Most revealing is one simple fact: President Clinton has helped save the lives of 1,300,000 people in his post-presidency, and Vanity Fair couldn?t find time to talk to even one of them for comment,? the statement continues, along with several pages of argument refuting the article?s main points.

Purdum suggests that in the years since Clinton left the White House $12 million in debt, he has been caught up in a world of rich friends, adoring fans and borrowed jets. The article quotes one former aide calling Clinton?s current associates like billionaire Ron Burkle and movie producer Stephen Bing ?radioactive.?

The aide says Clinton?s associates are compounding worries that the 61-year-old former president is running with a fast crowd

One source close to Clinton even suggested he has never been the same since quadruple bypass surgery in 2004.

?There?s an anger in him that I find surprising. There seems to be an abiding anger in him, and not just the summer thunderstorms of old. He has been called into question repeatedly by top staff,? a former aide to both Bill and Hillary Clinton told Purdum.

More devastating is Purdum?s claim that about 18 months ago, a former Clinton aide tried an intervention with the former president because he was hearing so many complaints about inappropriate behavior. According to the article, the aide believed ?Clinton was apparently seeing a lot of women on the road.?

Purdum wrote that the aide was rebuffed by advisers close to Clinton, never got to speak directly with him, and the attempted intervention was not well received by either Clinton.

The article also includes questions about the millions Bill Clinton has made since leaving office and notes the troubles for Hillary Clinton?s campaign attributed to him.
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:scared :0corn :scared

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

Yep will be interesting Scott--how and when she drops out--they have odds on it @ books but I haven't a clue.

Speaking of books--looks like i'm going to have to concede 1st political wager loss here since political forum inception. (Hilliary over Obama)

While anticipating 90% in general election--never figured racial bias of O carrying 90% vs H in primary.

Still go with initial premise despite many pundits to the contrary.

Think H had much better chance vs Mccain than O.

simple math -Dems will get their 90% despite which who candidate however O will bring several more to the polls--however as predicted hispanics will continue vote against O -not to the tune of 66% --like once again in Sundays P.R. primary-but just a 50/50 split in national will be big diff from past elections. Getting richardson as running mate will be his only prayer IMO--of course d4epends also n who McCain chooses. Should be interesting race.

 

[THE KOD]

Think H had much better chance vs Mccain than O.

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If the truth be told either of them are strong against McCain.

McCain just makes too many dumb mistakes in over speak.

Damn he is beginning to sound like George W.

Oh wait a minute - Mccain is George W.

 

[THE KOD]

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Most of the 17 Democratic senators who are uncommitted superdelegates will endorse Sen. Barack Obama for president this week, sources told CNN Monday.

Sen. Barack Obama is expected to pick up superdelegate endorsements after Tuesday's contests, sources say.

The lawmakers will wait until after the South Dakota and Montana primaries Tuesday before announcing their support for Obama, two sources familiar with discussions between Obama supporters and these senators told CNN's Gloria Borger.

Obama supporters have been "pressing" for these superdelegates to endorse early this week, but according to one source, "the senators don't want to pound Hillary Clinton, and there is a sense she should be given a grace period."

A series of meetings on the topic have been facilitated at different times by Illinois Sen. Dick Durbin, former Senate Minority Leader Tom Daschle and Iowa Sen. Tom Harkin. Durbin and Daschle are Obama supporters, while Harkin is uncommitted.

Obama is now 46 delegates short of the 2,118 needed to clinch the Democratic nomination, while Clinton needs 202. There are 31 pledged delegates up for grabs in the Tuesday contests, and 202 superdelegates have yet to commit to either candidate. Watch how the race could end ?

Obama has the support of 331 superdelegates to Clinton's 292.

Superdelegates are party elected officials and activists who are free to vote for either candidate.

Following Sunday's Puerto Rico primary, Obama picked up two more superdelegate nods, and Clinton received one.

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid and Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi will remain uncommitted until Clinton officially drops out of the race, sources told CNN's Candy Crowley, but that isn't stopping the two party heavyweights from using their clout to bring the primary battle to a hasty end.:00hour

Pelosi told the San Francisco Chronicle last week that she is prepared to intervene if the presidential race does not resolve itself by the end of June.:0corn

"I will step in," Pelosi told the paper in an interview. "Because we cannot take this fight to the convention. ... It must be over before then."

A senior Democratic aide in Congress also told CNN on Friday that Pelosi is already calling uncommitted superdelegates and pressuring them to back either Obama or Clinton by the end of this week. Pelosi is collaborating with Reid on the effort.

In an interview with a San Francisco radio station last week, Reid said he spoke to Pelosi and Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean. "We all are going to urge our folks next week to make a decision very quickly," Reid said.

Throughout the process, Dean has been pressing for superdelegates to make up their minds after this week's contests.

Facing an insurmountable lead among pledged delegates, Clinton is now counting on the remaining superdelegates to push her over the finish line, a proposition her campaign admits is a tall order.

"Is the road steeper than it was several weeks ago?," Clinton adviser Harold Ickes remarked on CNN's "Late Edition" on Sunday. "The answer is yes."

Still, Clinton told reporters after her primary win in Puerto Rico on Sunday that given her support among key demographics in swing states, she has proved she will be a stronger nominee than Obama against John McCain.

"I think it's only now that we're finishing these contests that people are going to actually reflect," Clinton said on her campaign plane Sunday, referring to the uncommitted superdelegates. "Who's our stronger candidate? And I believe I am, and I'm going to make that case, and at some point it will either be accepted or it won't be, but I feel strongly about making it."

Clinton argued that even superdelegates who have committed to Obama are free to "change their minds" -- a suggestion the Obama campaign declined to comment on.
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As my mama used to say when I came home drunk and was puking in the toilet...

Just let it go Hillary Just let it go.

 

[smurphy]

While anticipating 90% in general election--never figured racial bias of O carrying 90% vs H in primary.

Interesting, you've never mentioned anything about these numbers before.

I'm sorry that the blacks made you lose your wager.

 

[gardenweasel]

now hill and bill know how it feels to be a republican(and be brutalized by the msm on a daily basis)....

now?.....now that the clinton`s are to the right of their darling socialist bock,vanity fair does an article on bill clinton`s pecadillos?.....

after defending him to the death in the 90`s?.....

amazing....hipocrites to the nth degree...not one iota of consistency or professionalism...just agenda...

 

[smurphy]

brutalized

 

[gardenweasel]

have you read the vanity fair article?..8 pages?....it`s a hit piece...these are the same people that defended clinton to the death...

personally,as i`ve said many times on this board,i don`t think bill`s sex life is anybody`s bidness...

my problem is with smearing only when it suits your agenda....

how can that be reconciled?..

they`re hipoctrites at best....scumbags at worst...

imo,this is the most puzzling and uncomfortable thing about the dnc clash for the nomination...how once loyal clinton supporters have come to hate them, and how easily they do it....

ater the YEARS of press fawning on bill and hillary, it must be like a kick to the gut for them to read what the msm is saying about them now.....

as richard pryor once said,"they got them some new n---as"....

 

[THE KOD]

 

[THE KOD]

ater the YEARS of press fawning on bill and hillary, it must be like a kick to the gut for them to read what the msm is saying about them now.....

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All I have to do is remember whitewater, travel gate and a few other gates from the Clinton years .

I dont know how you can say the press was fawning over them . He was almost impeached for gods sake. That crap was on the news 24/7
for years. All the dirty laundry was played over and over.

How quickly the voters forget all that background.

I hope its over soon and the Clintons disappear into the Dubai sunset with 100 million cash .

Dont anyone feel sorry for them.

 

[THE KOD]

First Presidential Debate -

Obama on left, McCain on the right

 

[The Sponge]

my problem is with smearing only when it suits your agenda....


ater the YEARS of press fawning on bill and hillary, it must be like a kick to the gut for them to read what the msm is saying about them now.....

you watch Fox 24/7 and you have a problem with people smearing others when it suits the agenda:mj07: :mj07: and like Scotty said the fawning of the Clintons by the press?

 

[gardenweasel]

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All I have to do is remember whitewater, travel gate and a few other gates from the Clinton years .

I dont know how you can say the press was fawning over them . He was almost impeached for gods sake. That crap was on the news 24/7
for years. All the dirty laundry was played over and over.

How quickly the voters forget all that background.

I hope its over soon and the Clintons disappear into the Dubai sunset with 100 million cash .

Dont anyone feel sorry for them.

scott...he was impeached because the republicans controlled congress...the media ran interference...

and nothing happened as far a travelgate was concerned....

he was their darling...you`ve never heard,"the best 8 years we`ve ever had"?....watch the news?...watch guys like bill maher?...

they were livid that congress was impeaching bill...

these are the people that defended the clintons....i`m not a democrat...far from it...but,this article is trash...they`re throwing hammers...not a nail in sight...

i find it interesting that the clintons haven`t become republicans or conservatives....they haven`t changed....

they`re just in the way of this far left wing neophyte that hangs out with america hating bigots.....

and that`s what appeals to the left...forget what the clintons did for them...

they`re back stabbers...one thing that trumps politics for me.....and that`s disloyalty...

the clintons did nothing to get thrown under this bus...other than be a little more centrist...

this country survived 8 clinton years...i`m really worried about 8 years of a guy like obama...and his miserable wife....

she`s downright fricking scary...

 

[THE KOD]

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

Interesting, you've never mentioned anything about these numbers before.

I'm sorry that the blacks made you lose your wager.

Reason for losing wager was my own fault-no one elses. Would have never thought racism was so rampant in black community--especially churches.
You live and you learn.Was no data available on this unique 1st time demographical match up.
Do expect to recoup in state national wagers-with stats and trends compiled in primaries. Didn't take but 2 state primaries to correctly call 20% angle to tune of 10-0--in case you forgot.

Just hoping for lots of emotional P.C. betters such as yourself to sweeten odds.

 

[smurphy]

Just hoping for lots of emotional P.C. betters such as yourself to sweeten odds.

Yeah that would be great. Unfortunately I'm unable to make any of these wagers because of the stupid GOP congress 1 1/2 years ago.

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

Yeah that would be great. Unfortunately I'm unable to make any of these wagers because of the stupid GOP congress 1 1/2 years ago.

I still got most accounts I had before
-just took a little prudent action prior-
Lost a couple in Europe on IP blocks but fortunetly I got friends I trust for those also

-mainly miss neteller.

Trying to warn you bout coming election--but you won't listen again until it's too late.

you can lead a horse to water--but you can't make him drink.

 

[smurphy]

Warning me how? Is something bad going to happen? Are the black people going to kill the white people?