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Russel wilson has beat:


Chicago
Newengland
Greenbay
Sanfran
Dallas



And dallas and sanfran were not close

Seattle fans are in a good position



How do scouts continue to just evaluate statistics....

Every couple drafts there is a tom brady/russel wilson/drew brees/brett favre

Guys who don't have all the numbers and attributes, but have proven to be absolute winners...

Why don't they take guys like this more serious?


IMO besides luck, wilson is the rook of year
 

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Green Bay played a poor game against Seattle and the Seahawks did not win that game. That hugely underqualified substitute referee, Lance Easley, gave it to them.
 

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Ya I almost left it out, but still wilson in his 3rd start had his team in a position to win vs a former mvp and superbowl team...

Kid has it...whatever that is.


Was watching a thing on em this morning...like him a lot
 

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Green Bay played a poor game against Seattle and the Seahawks did not win that game. That hugely underqualified substitute referee, Lance Easley, gave it to them.

Clearly u haven't re watched the game and only pay attention to the final play that gets replayed ad nauseam..there were plenty of bogus calls that went against the hawks in that second half. The Seahawks won that game I suggest you deal with it.

I am so thrilled to be able to watch Wilson for years to come. The kid is a winner and absolutely thrives in the face of adversity. I always hear about intangibles and moxie and thought those were just buzzwords people like mcshay and kipper use to sound like they know what they're talking about... I think I now know what it is
 

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Seahawks have defeated[will count GB only because of scoreboard and official NFL SEASON RECORD] 5 OF THE 6 TOP 10 TEAMS THEY HAVE FACED..

THEY ARE 6-2 VS TOP 16..

and I still think they are below NE..DENV..ATL..GB in a eyeball test of best teams right this very moment..

we shall see though..

they will get their chance to make their faithful a shyt load of money or make their fans understand what it is to cheer for the Falcons these past few seasons..

no excuses now..Primetime they have showed the world..

time to show up when one and done is the credo..

3 straight road games in the playoffs for a team who itsn't quite the same team w/o that 12th man..

:0003
 

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I clearly watched the game, Mr. Homer (just like I am!)

That said, I love Russell Wilson also. He was great for the Badgers and his demeanor is so mature. He is definitely a winner, and I do pull for him whenever the Packers are not involved. Very happy that the Pack won't (probably won't) have to play them in Seattle in the playoffs.
 

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I'm just as happy the hawks don't face you guys either.. The pack will want retribution and in Lambeau... No thanks
 

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3 straight road games in the playoffs for a team who itsn't quite the same team w/o that 12th man..

:0003

This is the most important thing about their chances. Young team on the road is not a recipe for success, but I'll be wary of betting against them as hot as they are.
 

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This is the most important thing about their chances. Young team on the road is not a recipe for success, but I'll be wary of betting against them as hot as they are.


agreed..

personally will be lookin' at totals envolving them..

gotta bring 30 to the party...

this ain't my mommy's NFL
 

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bring thirty to forty......that's what lots of people were saying last year about NO GB and NE........but NO was dismantled by the best defense SF and GB and NE were dismantled by the NYG with a semi tough defense.......defense wins championships
 

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bring thirty to forty......that's what lots of people were saying last year about NO GB and NE........but NO was dismantled by the best defense SF and GB and NE were dismantled by the NYG with a semi tough defense.......defense wins championships

giants had to score 30's to beat greenbay


saints lost to the niners 34-31 or something insane




yes, those teams are more known for their D's (sanfran and giants that is), but it wasn't their defense that won those games...


check the scores man, like old school said, they won cause they outscored their opponents...
 

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SF NEEDED 36 TO TAKE OUT THE SAINTS..playoffs

bring 25 w/ya to play Brady..Rodgers..Peyton..

will give ya a window seat for the long ride home..


like I stated..

this ain't grand-daddy's NFL anymore..
 

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SF NEEDED 36 TO TAKE OUT THE SAINTS..playoffs

bring 25 w/ya to play Brady..Rodgers..Peyton..

will give ya a window seat for the long ride home..


like I stated..

this ain't grand-daddy's NFL anymore..

Sad, but true...the "game" in 10 years will be called something else..

New Rules:

No kick-offs, coin flip determines first possession at midfield.
After Td or Fg, opposing team gets ball at midfield.
Quarterback and wide receivers can not be touched under ANY circumstances.
All punts must be fair caught.
Running backs can not be touched until they get past the line of scrimmage.

Field goals 10-19 yards = 2pts
Field goals 20-30 yards = 3pts
Field goals 31-40 yards = 4pts
Field goals 41-50 yards = 5pts
Field goals 50+ = 6pts

Safety=NEGATIVE 2 pts...you may have touched QB.

First team to 200 wins..

Sorry folks, the NFL product is approaching the level of pro-wrestling at an alarming pace.
 
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Sad, but true...the "game" in 10 years will be called something else..

New Rules:

No kick-offs, coin flip determines first possession at midfield.
After Td or Fg, opposing team gets ball at midfield.
Quarterback and wide receivers can not be touched under ANY circumstances.
All punts must be fair caught.
Running backs can not be touched until they get past the line of scrimmage.

Field goals 10-19 yards = 2pts
Field goals 20-30 yards = 3pts
Field goals 31-40 yards = 4pts
Field goals 41-50 yards = 5pts
Field goals 50+ = 6pts

Safety=NEGATIVE 2 pts...you may have touched QB.

First team to 200 wins..

Sorry folks, the NFL product is approaching the level of pro-wrestling at an alarming pace.

No need for hyperbole about the needed rule changes they are implementing in the NFL. The added mass and speed that players have been playing with since the 80s has led to tragic results when you look at the amount of damage that has been inflicted. This damage is not only to player's bodies, but also to their minds with the amount of concussions they endure over their playing careers. Even more tragic is the damage this causes to the people around them when these players that give so many millions joy on Sundays end up taking their own lives due to the depression they suffer from Chronic Traumatic Encephalopathy. Those who don't take their own lives often end up facing dementia and a very premature death. Let's not moan about the fact that the NFL is finally doing the right thing and trying to stop this.

Of course, it doesn't help when you see a player, Vernon Davis, get knocked out of a game with a concussion from a blow to the head, and then you have that asshole, Jon Gruden, saying in front of the whole country how it was a clean hit and how ridiculous it is that a flag was thrown. That fucker should be suspended by ESPN for making an outrageously irresponsible comment like that.They need to start suspending these players for head shots instead of just fining them. The fines should be bigger, too. Anything that can be done to lower the amount of concussions needs to be considered. I wouldn't mind seeing teams get the ball at the 20 to start every drive.

The problem is all the mopes out there, who would shit their pants at getting hit by one of these 252-lb (average in the NFL) men, bitch about the "pussification" of the NFL when rule changes to protect the players are discussed. Empathy goes out the window when the Roman masses want their circuses. So what if the gladiators die an early death? Isn't that why they're in the arena?
 

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No need for hyperbole about the needed rule changes they are implementing in the NFL. The added mass and speed that players have been playing with since the 80s has led to tragic results when you look at the amount of damage that has been inflicted. This damage is not only to player's bodies, but also to their minds with the amount of concussions they endure over their playing careers. Even more tragic is the damage this causes to the people around them when these players that give so many millions joy on Sundays end up taking their own lives due to the depression they suffer from Chronic Traumatic Encephalopathy. Those who don't take their own lives often end up facing dementia and a very premature death. Let's not moan about the fact that the NFL is finally doing the right thing and trying to stop this.

Of course, it doesn't help when you see a player, Vernon Davis, get knocked out of a game with a concussion from a blow to the head, and then you have that asshole, Jon Gruden, saying in front of the whole country how it was a clean hit and how ridiculous it is that a flag was thrown. That fucker should be suspended by ESPN for making an outrageously irresponsible comment like that.They need to start suspending these players for head shots instead of just fining them. The fines should be bigger, too. Anything that can be done to lower the amount of concussions needs to be considered. I wouldn't mind seeing teams get the ball at the 20 to start every drive.

The problem is all the mopes out there, who would shit their pants at getting hit by one of these 252-lb (average in the NFL) men, bitch about the "pussification" of the NFL when rule changes to protect the players are discussed. Empathy goes out the window when the Roman masses want their circuses. So what if the gladiators die an early death? Isn't that why they're in the arena?



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No need for hyperbole about the needed rule changes they are implementing in the NFL. The added mass and speed that players have been playing with since the 80s has led to tragic results when you look at the amount of damage that has been inflicted. This damage is not only to player's bodies, but also to their minds with the amount of concussions they endure over their playing careers. Even more tragic is the damage this causes to the people around them when these players that give so many millions joy on Sundays end up taking their own lives due to the depression they suffer from Chronic Traumatic Encephalopathy. Those who don't take their own lives often end up facing dementia and a very premature death. Let's not moan about the fact that the NFL is finally doing the right thing and trying to stop this.

Of course, it doesn't help when you see a player, Vernon Davis, get knocked out of a game with a concussion from a blow to the head, and then you have that asshole, Jon Gruden, saying in front of the whole country how it was a clean hit and how ridiculous it is that a flag was thrown. That fucker should be suspended by ESPN for making an outrageously irresponsible comment like that.They need to start suspending these players for head shots instead of just fining them. The fines should be bigger, too. Anything that can be done to lower the amount of concussions needs to be considered. I wouldn't mind seeing teams get the ball at the 20 to start every drive.

The problem is all the mopes out there, who would shit their pants at getting hit by one of these 252-lb (average in the NFL) men, bitch about the "pussification" of the NFL when rule changes to protect the players are discussed. Empathy goes out the window when the Roman masses want their circuses. So what if the gladiators die an early death? Isn't that why they're in the arena?

Uh, this is russel wilson thread


Please go to player saftey thread =)



Seriously man I agree, players are getting too strong. I have no problems with some of the rule changes.....

These guys are destroying eachother....literally...it is a much different game....that is why I don't listen to the argument, "back in the day they didn't have these rules"

Well, back in the day, they didn't have 300 lbers running faster then horses....this is such a different game....I don't like all of the changes in the league, but as far as helmet to helmet shit, doesn't bother me one bit...the "product" won't be ruined by this like some say...players/teams/coaches adapt...they will learn how to play within these rules, and the league will continue to flourish...
 

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Granted,

Granted,

SOME changes are needed, it is still a violent sport.

Sadly with the rules slanted heavily against the defense, they are making football deities out of young "wonder" QB's that under previous rules would be second stringers at best.

Every time I see a QB cry to a ref because a defender touched his helmet and it was a non-call, I want to puke. Or a wide receiver pandering for a call...reminds me of "flopping" in the NBA. (thankfully that appears to have been addressed)

It is awful hard for someone as myself that has watched football for 40+ years to see the product systematically watering itself down to the level of flag football.


Guess it is part of the aging process..."getting old ain't for sissies"...
 
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