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why do you chase billy all over the globe? can't you just let him go at this point?
 

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Yes, Clintons comments were shocking and uncalled for. He's actually advocating peace between Taiwan and China. What is he thinking?

Meanwhile, Russia signed an agreement with Iran to supply Iran with nuclear fuel with the understanding that Russia will collect and take back the spent rods so they can't be re-processed. Good thing that this deal is between two trusted allies of ours and that Russia has an impeccable record of keeping track of nuclear materials.

Maybe Clinton should have been the one meeting with Putin last week.
 

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smurphy said:
why do you chase billy all over the globe? can't you just let him go at this point?

Are you kidding? Don't say that. I like Wayne and if he let Clinton go, we'd never see him again in the political area.
 

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I'm just thinkin' maybe it's time he gets some fresh material. Maybe prove he's not a 1 trick pony?

I don't like Dubya, but I can't imagine digging sh1t up on him in 2012 ---especially marginal stuff like this. I'm sure DTB has some other skills - time for a renaissance in KY!
 

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smurphy said:
I'm just thinkin' maybe it's time he gets some fresh material. Maybe prove he's not a 1 trick pony?

I don't like Dubya, but I can't imagine digging sh1t up on him in 2012 ---especially marginal stuff like this. I'm sure DTB has some other skills - time for a renaissance in KY!

Yes, fresh material would be welcomed. And complaining about these comments by Clinton isn't even 'marginal', it's just silly.
 

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Not Matt I've taken 1st step in not printing S word in long time.
Promoting peace--if pissing off Taiwan and Hong Kong is promoting peace???---I am sure you are familiar with white house sleep over and China espionage that was committed iin his term or do you need refresher course??
==try the expose "Year of the Rat"
or for shorter version
"Yah Lin "Charlie" Trie, a member of a Red Chinese-linked Triad criminal syndicate, laundered hundreds of thousands of dollars into both the Clinton-Gore campaign and the President?s legal defense trust. Following a $460,000 donation to the legal defense trust, Trie ? acting as a courier on behalf of Red China ? placed a "strategic memo in front of the President at a time of international crisis, resulting in a reply that changed a long-established element of foreign policy," recall Timperlake and Triplett. Mr. Clinton?s reply to the memo signaled a decisive turn away from previous assurances to the free Chinese of Taiwan that the U.S. would defend them against aggression from Beijing."

I do do countless pages on his Chinese Clintons affairs--

Now back to him getting his nose backin politics--look around the news --notice anything important going on in Lebenon today??
This administration is doing unprecebented things in world leadership in past--

P.S. his motives are for promoting his book and Hilliary in 08 in case you don't know
---of course you have to let one who never paid taxes on over $36,000 income in privite life steal all in can once in politics.;)
 
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And behind closed doors the now president Bush said to Bill. They seem to trust you right now more then me say something good. And we will never know the truth.
 

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In what dream of yours DJV or has liberal media come out with undisclosed person saying he MAY HAVE said this again.

--by the way unless your Marc Rich using Clinton and word trust in same sentence would be contradictory.
 

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even though I only voted for Clinton once, it's too bad he still is not president, compared to what we have. Then again I guess a toothless chimp would still be an improvement over this jackass
 

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heres brush up on chinagate for those that have hard time understanding-----

The Idiot's Guide to Chinagate
http://www.richardpoe.com/column.cgi?story=125

This scandel is by far the worse of all IMO
Unforunately many of the the players are no longer with us--or have pleaded the 5th over 2000 times or left the country

In a nutshell its about bribes and payoffs from chinese and the payback was


With Bill Clinton elected president and John Huang placed with a top secret clearance (without examination) in the Commerce Department, the Chinese got what they wanted: unlimited access to the military, civilian and dual-use technology that had been denied them during Republican administrations:

(*) F-16 fighter jets
(*) Cray supercomputers for weapons development
(*) Machine tools for cruise missile construction
(*) Global Positioning System technology for missile guidance
(*) Satellites and satellite technology
(*) The entire U.S. Patent database.
(*) Nuclear Power plants
John Huang used his top secret clearance to gain access to classified U.S. military and industrial secrets on encryption technology and its relationship to intelligence gathering and software marketing across the world. He then took the documents across the street, to an office run by Riady partner Stephens' of Little Rock, where he dropped the documents so they could be collected by Chinese intelligence.

And when Chinese military and intelligence wanted a foothold in America, President Clinton personally met twice with Long Beach officials to push through a deal to lease the former naval base to the Chinese COSCO front company on extremely favorable terms despite vocal national security concerns.

a little on John Huang---

" Huang cited his Fifth Amendment rights over 2,000 times before pleading guilty to minor campaign violations. Huang took the Fifth Amendment more than 2,000 times when asked if he was an agent of the Chinese military.

Despite 37 classified briefings by the CIA, which later noted in congressional testimony that some of the material given to Huang could endanger the lives of field agents, the Reno-led Department of Justice and the Freeh-led FBI refused to investigate the Chinagate figure's possible espionage activities.

For example, files found in the offices of John Huang detail exports of Patriot missiles to South Korea, Apache attack helicopters to Holland, 155 mm artillery to Kuwait and F-16 fighter jet sales to the UAE. Huang, however, was not a member of the Commerce Department's Bureau for Export Administration, the predecessor of today's Commerce Department Bureau for Industry and Security.

How Huang obtained these documents and why he was involved in arms sales remains unanswered, but it is clear that U.S. defense contractors sought Commerce Department help with foreign sales prior to any approval by the Defense Department or State Department."

I've read mega on Chinagate and while most readings are conservative oriented I have to think it it biased and it could not all be true or Clinton would be in jail--but then again I have to consider the Marc Rich scandal which is obvious and nothing was done there either.
Some very interesting players in Chinagate--Foster-Brown-- Hubell---it is quite an interesting read.
 
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considering the n.korean debacle(not surprising considering jimmy carter was our proxy),is it possible that wild bill was a real "manchurian candidate"?.......lol

not a clinton hater....actually liked the guy.... but the far east obviously wasn`t his strong suit...
 

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"even though I only voted for Clinton once, it's too bad he still is not president, compared to what we have. Then again I guess a toothless chimp would still be an improvement over this jackass"

Could you share with us your reasons--
Is it his honesty-character-morals-
or maybe
--you prefer a cut and run military tactics
---his do nothing attitude on terror
or maybe it makes you mad Lybia gave up the ship--your angered by the development of democracies in once terrorist states--you hate the possiblity of peace between Isreal and Palestine
you felt safer before 75% of major terrorist leaders were killed or captured--you felt safer with UBL opening training troops in Afgan-you like idea that Bill had free shot at em twice and let him go.

Ok so we now have 2 that stood up and cheered as Billy shook his finger on TV.
Pray for em Jessie :)
 

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75% of terrorist captured BWHAHAHAHAHAH, now thats a good one!!!! More like Iraq has become a training ground for all future terrorist. Iraq is a disgrace, the world laughs at our debacle, worse mess than Afghanastan which is a training ground for terror as we speak at least thats what the CIA stated, but what do they know. Bush and Cheney are LOSERS just like Tom Delay, Newt Gingrich, McGreevey, Lott, Jesse Jackson, you can lump them all together and you get incompetence. Honesty and morals??? Which one are you ripping here Clinton or Bush? Neither one have any room to criticize the other both are liars and have huge moral problems. How many world leaders can boast of drunk driving charges and drug use? Typical Republican response to all issues toss out a morals and honesty card and expect others to live up to it but it doesnt apply to them, didn't we learn our lesson when the Republicans attacked Clinton for Monica? How many did Larry Flynt expose for doing the same thing? Storm Thurmond another typical Republican, a racist who opposed civil rights but thought enough of blacks to ahve sex with them and have a child, then crafty enough to keep it secret until he died, now thats what I call a moral man. You can stick your morals and honesty charge up your arse if you can't show both sides of the truth, you sound like another small minded Republican backer Jerry Falwell, a man whom has more hatred in his heart than anyone around, but Republicans laud him. The same can be said for the Dems, but at least I have the ability to seperate fact from fiction.
 

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DOGS THAT BARK said:
---his do nothing attitude on terror
NOBODY was a bigger do-nothing on terror than George W. Bush from Innauguration day, 2001 through September 10th, 2001. NOBODY.
 

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"75% of "MAJOR" terrorist leaders were killed or captured"
Hmmm you seemed to have left out one word in quote which changes whole concept--typical Micheal Moore/NTY/liberal tactics

---read em and weep as as you would side with Slick and prefer them running free for political reasons
http://www.angelfire.com/ultra/terroristscorecard/

Don't you just hate facts--makes you want to pull your hair out :)

"Neither one have any room to criticize the other both are liars and have huge moral problems"

Fact-- I know of only one convicted of lying- and imorrality
--more hair pulled

"you sound like another small minded Republican backer Jerry Falwell"

Fact I have already stated my UNfavorable opinion of Falwell on numerous occasions--more distortions of truth from the left

The ultimate liberal logic----
"The same can be said for the Dems, but at least I have the ability to seperate fact from fiction"

After above I could think of no better place to insert your--
BWHAHAHAHAHAH :)
Merriam-Webster
http://www.m-w.com/
You might want to look up definition of Fact and opinion.
 
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Real nice scorecard, too bad it is a joke and a waste of time for each one captured two are being trained due to the lies of the Bush Administration folly into Iraq for No Weapons of Mass Destruction. How can you even cite this garbage it has no author and makes sweeping broad generalizations. WOW, if only 25% are left in the world then damn they sure are potentent, do you really think anyone believes this garbage? By the way for all of Clinton's shortcomings and there are many, under whoms watch did 9-11 occur? Who was briefed about possible terrorist actions but choose to remain fixated on Iraq? Are all of the former Bush cabinet members whom have stated these facts liars?

Fact-- I know of only one convicted of lying- and imorrality
--more hair pulled

Well when you fail to admit to disclose that you had a DUI and another arrest when you run for political office in most places that would be considered lying, but I guess that since it's a fact it shouldnt count. Would not driving intoxicated be considered an inmorrality, was he not putting innocent peoples lives at stake? Whats more wrong to have an affair or to drive blitzed and put others at risk? These clowns make me laugh, reminds me of how Rush the Dope Man Limbaugh use to state that drug users should be locked up for life, but his tune changed once he was outed, typical right wing goofball.

STORM THURMOND is the poster child for Repubilcans! BWHAHAHAHAH!
 
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Yes, Clintons comments were shocking and uncalled for. He's actually advocating peace between Taiwan and China. What is he thinking?

Meanwhile, Russia signed an agreement with Iran to supply Iran with nuclear fuel with the understanding that Russia will collect and take back the spent rods so they can't be re-processed. Good thing that this deal is between two trusted allies of ours and that Russia has an impeccable record of keeping track of nuclear materials.

Maybe Clinton should have been the one meeting with Putin last week.

I guess Billy boy is doing his best impression of Jimmy Carter. Now Jimmy is the worst scum, communist piece of crap I've seen in some time this side of France. Nice goal for Billy boy.

Why don't we send Jimmy there. He can sure fuqk that one up. he can talk to Putin in his own language: "communism".

Nobel Peace Prize, my ass. Yeah, him and that toothless goat herder Arafat are hall of fame Nobel Peace prize winners.

Oh, and Peace with China? Chit, Bernie, what world do you live in? OK, I guess somebody ought to give it the old college try.
 

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I guess Billy boy is doing his best impression of Jimmy Carter. Now Jimmy is the worst scum, communist piece of crap I've seen in some time this side of France. Nice goal for Billy boy.

Carter certainly wasn't our countrys finest moment, but if 'doing an impression' of him means trying to keep the China-Taiwan dispute on a low boil, then I guess that's ok.


Why don't we send Jimmy there. He can sure fuqk that one up. he can talk to Putin in his own language: "communism".

Yeah, it's weird. Those horrible communist, anti-capitalists in China have an economy that's sailing upward at an alarming rate.


Nobel Peace Prize, my ass. Yeah, him and that toothless goat herder Arafat are hall of fame Nobel Peace prize winners.

Agree with that, for sure, especially Arafat but also Carter.

Oh, and Peace with China? Chit, Bernie, what world do you live in? OK, I guess somebody ought to give it the old college try.

Haven't we always had peace with China(except perhaps indirectly when they 'secretly' sent troops across the Chosin Resovoir to help North Korea during the Korean War)?

I don't understand your comment, I guess. Realistically, the only way we would fight China would be if they attack Taiwan.

Wayne,

I'll try to dig up some stuff later on my other computer that refutes 90% of that crap about 'chinagate'. I've read all that stuff before and it's almost all exaggerated or just lies. I guess like anything else, it depends on the source, but as you said, if all that was true then Slick would have been convicted of treason. :bsflag
 
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