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Why extend courtesy?

Why extend courtesy?

simon, i started this site because i hate touts. i wanted a site where people would come and discuss sportsbetting without ever wanting to use a tout.

why i started that forum a couple years ago, i have no idea but it isn't worth the hassle for me.

i have been taking plays down when a service asks me to. it's a courtesy for christsakes.

and i didn't side with the touts and i didn't get paid off. the picks are worthless, totally worthless, and the sooner you learn that, the better off you will be.

take the titans tonight.


Jack - my only question is if you hate the touts as you say above, why would you want to extend them any courtesy whatsoever?

If you hate them, tell them to take a hike when they call about their picks being posted rather than extend them the courtesy. By extending that courtesy to the people you say you hate, you are not only alienating certain people in this forum who enjoyed your site over other sports forums but also are causing you additional unneeded work by searching for picks that you agreed not to be posted.

Just curious on that fact. I know you weren't "paid off" or some of the other ridiculous comments people are making but why even bother extending them that courtesy. Do they deserve it? And by extending that courtesy to certain touts, then that almost appears to be a form of censorship which I never would have expected here.

Listen, in the end, I don't really care and totally agree with you that 99% of the services are completely worthless. I long since recognized most are just sleazy marketing majors preying on the gambling degenerate. In fact, one service you always requested not to be posted (ATS) spends ten times more energy and money on marketing than they do there own picks with all their mailings and advertising. They offer so many packages that when one ultimately gets "hot", they market that one while many of the other packages they are offering are failing. However they have their following as many of the bad ones do and I feel bad for the people they sucker in.

On the other hand, I do think there are a select few touts that are worth some consideration when gathering all the facts for an individual to make his selection. I realize there could be ramifications on the write-up portion of the selection and that may have to be censored but certainly not the pick itself.

For myself, a pick without a write-up does me little good unless one of the select few that have proven the test of time gets hot. However, some of the write-ups if allowed or were not requested to be removed have proven to be helful from time to time. Rarely, lol, but sometimes.

Personally I don't really care about the service section. I can get them elsewhere if I need to. I think there are many other areas of Madjack Sports that are interesting and a helpful resource that are superior to other sites. Still, in a drawn out statement, again I just always wondered why you would extend that courtesy to the touts you say you hate. Because it's the right thing to do? No, most of them prey and harass many people who should not be gambling without an ounce of regret.

Again, love your forum but would enjoy hearing why you've extended that courtesy ultimately ending up in removing of that forum completely. Thanks.
 

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i don't hate anybody, i hate the tout business.
 

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No need to worry - Found another "MadJack site" that lists services for free without any reprocussion.

I don't think I would be allowed to post it here.

SIMON
 

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KNOCK IT OFF SIMON

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I never listed the site - I only implied it. Not the same. But your crew on here is not smart enough to figure it out anyway. Oh well.....
 
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Well not to kick a dead horse, but I just want to say thanks to Jack for putting up with all the BS he does from some of these guys. Yeah the service page was interesting to look at but in all reality most of the time there you can find just as many touts on one team as the other. I personally have paid for services before and in the long run I have done far better by following quality cappers such as Raymond, box and one. Oh BTW anyone heard from NBA kid this year? Again I don't know why all these guys complain because really Jack IS providing everyone a FREE service.! Thanks Big Guy!
 

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Well not to kick a dead horse, but I just want to say thanks to Jack for putting up with all the BS he does from some of these guys. QUOTE]

This issue is dead - move on....YOU HAVEN'T and it seems you can't pick winners either.

On this site there are maybe seven guys tops that can pick with constistency. The rest are all wishy washy....they go 6-0 one day and then 0-6 the next. They post their records and they wind up being .500 for the year.

Looking at service picks is not BS. I like to compare the service picks to some of the picks that are chosen by the guys here. Then pull the trigger.

Can you pick 60% + ?? I doubt it. Some touts can and most on this site cannot.

Bottom line is....that I am responsible for the pick that I make - it's my money - and I want as much information as possible before I make my choice.

I really like this site and the information it has to offer. I like having it all in one area. But, jackie boy has taken it down and that's his choice. I have found another capping site that posts a lot of service picks for free. It's just another click away for me. OHHHH WEELLLLLL !!!!!

So, I can bitch and complain all I want - you think you may be right with your two cents - but in essense you are incorrect.

You cannot go wrong with more information in securing the best pick possible.

It's all about feeling comfortable with confidence with your pick - isn't it ? So, if Raymond or Box and One make you feel warm and fuzzy - then so be it.
 

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So, I can bitch and complain all I want - you think you may be right with your two cents - but in essense you are incorrect.

You cannot go wrong with more information in securing the best pick possible.

Agreed, and you seem to put a premium on the service information, so pay for it. If it's that important to you, buy it. Not sure what's so hard about that.
 

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Agreed, and you seem to put a premium on the service information, so pay for it. If it's that important to you, buy it. Not sure what's so hard about that.

What we have here is an honest injun....paying for picks....lol

If they were 100% correct - I would pay for it.

When you buy a car...does 60% of it work and you pay full price ?

You PAY to use the pick. I just want to see what the consensus of the tout picks are. Doesn't neccessarily mean that I will use them.

I like to play on things with an edge. So, if madjackie cooper doesn't allow them...OK...I'll get them elsewhere. Paying for them or not.

INFORMATION IS POWER !!!!
 

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What we have here is an honest injun....paying for picks....lol

If they were 100% correct - I would pay for it.

When you buy a car...does 60% of it work and you pay full price ?

You PAY to use the pick. I just want to see what the consensus of the tout picks are. Doesn't neccessarily mean that I will use them.

I like to play on things with an edge. So, if madjackie cooper doesn't allow them...OK...I'll get them elsewhere. Paying for them or not.

INFORMATION IS POWER !!!!

Are you the type of guy that sits in Barnes and Nobles and reads the magizines so you don't have to buy them too?
 

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:0corn Guys, I just paid thousands for this information...............my source said Si....mon is gay :scared ............ :00hour :00hour :00hour
 

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not only doesn't he want to pay for the picks, he's too lazy to CLICK for the free picks. christ!

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damn this guy simon is a tool. I was thanking Jack for for ALL the BS that he listens to you guys bitch about, not just the picks. How would you know about my bank roll? I can assure I am having a hell of a year following the so called wishy washy cappers on here. If you dont have the money to lose on gambling you shouldnt be playing. My guess is you lose more than you win and are using these touts picks as a crutch. I also assume you like to hide behind your computer screen with all the tough talk. If you have found so much of a better site then why are you prowling around here?? I am sure Jack can arrange it so you cant come back, that is since you dont need it. :s4:
 
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