scott deserves to win the moron of the year award for the above comments. he is one of the reasons why i very rarely watch sportscenter anymore.
Imus Screw Up??
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scott deserves to win the moron of the year award for the above comments. he is one of the reasons why i very rarely watch sportscenter anymore.
What pisses me off is what ever happened to "Freedom of Speech"
If the Rutgers were a predominatly WHITE basketball Team and IMUS said "Those unathletic cracker hoes can't jump" Then this would NEVER be a story AND THIS THREAD would NEVER exist. Sharpton and Jackson want to make a difference? You've got be kidding me tell me when they start donating to cancer funds or any other charity than i'll buy their BS. Jackson and Sharpton both wet themselves when they herd IMUS remarks. Because they know IT WAS $$$ MAKING TIME! He should't of said what he said, but he did and he should have a "RIGHT" to say WHATEVER he wants RIGHT OR WRONG. Because supposedly we have a "FREEDOM of SPEECH" right. Without being penalized or even apoligize for it! He did apologize for it and that was more than i think he ever really had to do!! Hell I don't even watch the show but it is pissing me of that you have to be "Poltically correct" So you don't hurt someones feelings. If you don't like his comments don't watch his show, too many radio jockeys are getting in trouble for SAYING WRONG THINGS. If YOU DONT LIKE IT CHANGE THE CHANNEL.
If the Rutgers were a predominatly WHITE basketball Team and IMUS said "Those unathletic cracker hoes can't jump" Then this would NEVER be a story AND THIS THREAD would NEVER exist. Sharpton and Jackson want to make a difference? You've got be kidding me tell me when they start donating to cancer funds or any other charity than i'll buy their BS. Jackson and Sharpton both wet themselves when they herd IMUS remarks. Because they know IT WAS $$$ MAKING TIME! He should't of said what he said, but he did and he should have a "RIGHT" to say WHATEVER he wants RIGHT OR WRONG. Because supposedly we have a "FREEDOM of SPEECH" right. Without being penalized or even apoligize for it! He did apologize for it and that was more than i think he ever really had to do!! Hell I don't even watch the show but it is pissing me of that you have to be "Poltically correct" So you don't hurt someones feelings. If you don't like his comments don't watch his show, too many radio jockeys are getting in trouble for SAYING WRONG THINGS. If YOU DONT LIKE IT CHANGE THE CHANNEL.
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Your one dumb Mother Focker
mean that in an affectionate way :142smilie :mj07:
I totallly agree, next they will tell us we can't bet on sports!!!!
The team is seizing the moment, this was the only way they get to let everybody know they won the NCAA women?s tourney it surely was not from people watching.:com:
He does and did have freedom of speech and he used it. Are they sending him to the Gulog?
He can 'speak' as he sees fit, but he's not operating in a vacuum. He has an employer who has the 'freedom' to fire him if his conduct is detrimental to their business.
Advertisers also have the 'freedom' to advertise where they wish. If advertisers stand to lose business or get boycotted because of racist comments, well then?
He continues to be 'free' to say whatever the f*ck he wants. However, it's not necessarily without consequences.
Not sure if you work or not, but if you do, exercise your 'free speech', go out and embarrass your company, do or say something idiotic to where major revenue streams are cut off from your company. Then bitch about your 'free speech' as you're cleaning out your desk.
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The 'freedom of speech' you are guaranteed has to do with protecting your right to speak out against the government, not in private situations.
Your right to speak in other situations is not protected. For example, you don't have a protected right to yell 'fire' in a crowded theater. You don't have a protected right to call your co-worker a stupid 'mother fcker'. You have the right to say these things, but you will have consequences to them - in other words they are not protected by the constitution. Please don't confuse the two scenarios.
Your right to speak in other situations is not protected. For example, you don't have a protected right to yell 'fire' in a crowded theater. You don't have a protected right to call your co-worker a stupid 'mother fcker'. You have the right to say these things, but you will have consequences to them - in other words they are not protected by the constitution. Please don't confuse the two scenarios.
I am a democrat/liberal...and a caucasian. I am an avid Howard Stern listener. That being the case, I am supposed to be anti-Imus. When I first heard the comments, I honestly did not hear what the big deal was. It's Imus...it's radio. And why the hell Imus gave in and went on Sharpton's radio show is just unfathomable. A racist calling someone a racist...
This is way overblown...an utter double-standard.
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This is way overblown...an utter double-standard.
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Just announced CBS also fired him. I really didn't think it would happen but maybe a good time to get rid of him. I don't listen or watch his show, never cared for him.
kosar i agree that his employers have the power to fire him. However two weeks ago when the ratings came out and he was closing on cnn causing cnn to fire its morning team, msnbc had no problem with his program.
His program has always had a shock jock feel to it and msnbc knew about it and did nothing.
My problem is with Sharpton and Jackson being responsible for nbc and cbs firing him. This is beyond a double standard imo. Dont crumble to these two people who are, themselves, racist to a much larger extent than Imus.
agreed...hip-hop/ganster rap is just an expression of this group of people's culture...somehow Eminem has passed this scrutiny as a white man
Imus injected a new phrase into American language!
I started it today, and think you should all join the ranks.
Today, I was in line to pay my cable bill, and what do you know? I got some broad in front of me wearing the dirty tight sweats, and she was the "n word". (That's right......nappy!)
Well, she's pleading her case as to why they should turn her cable back on, etc, and I'm watching the other line go along at break-neck speed, so I switch over.
I finished up, headed over to the club, (yeah...the one with the sauna), and my buddy asks me why I'm running late?
I told him I got "Rutger-ed"!
Maybe they can change their name to the Scarlet Harlets?
Anyway........I shook my head over this idiot's rant, too. That is until these dolts got up in front of the cameras and said shit about being "scarred for life" over his comments.
If you're a 20+ black in Jersey, and that's the worst you've ever had hurled at you.......You should be thanking your god!
Gimmie a break.
I started it today, and think you should all join the ranks.
Today, I was in line to pay my cable bill, and what do you know? I got some broad in front of me wearing the dirty tight sweats, and she was the "n word". (That's right......nappy!)
Well, she's pleading her case as to why they should turn her cable back on, etc, and I'm watching the other line go along at break-neck speed, so I switch over.
I finished up, headed over to the club, (yeah...the one with the sauna), and my buddy asks me why I'm running late?
I told him I got "Rutger-ed"!
Maybe they can change their name to the Scarlet Harlets?
Anyway........I shook my head over this idiot's rant, too. That is until these dolts got up in front of the cameras and said shit about being "scarred for life" over his comments.
If you're a 20+ black in Jersey, and that's the worst you've ever had hurled at you.......You should be thanking your god!
Gimmie a break.
CBS fires Don Imus over racial comments about Rutgers team
April 12, 2007
NEW YORK (AP) -- CBS fired Don Imus from his radio program Thursday, the finale to a stunning fall for one of the nation's most prominent broadcasters.
Imus initially was given a two-week suspension for calling the Rutgers women's basketball team "nappy-headed hos" on the air last week, but outrage continued to grow and advertisers bolted from his CBS radio show and its MSNBC simulcast.
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"There has been much discussion of the effect language like this has on our young people, particularly young women of color trying to make their way in this society," CBS President and Chief Executive Officer Leslie Moonves said in announcing the decision. "That consideration has weighed most heavily on our minds as we made our decision."
Rutgers women's basketball team spokeswoman Stacey Brann said the team did not have an immediate comment on Imus' firing.
Time Magazine once named the cantankerous broadcaster as one of the 25 Most Influential People in America, and he was a member of the National Broadcaster Hall of Fame.
But Imus found himself at the center of a storm as protests intensified. On Wednesday, MSNBC dropped the simulcast of Imus' show.
Losing Imus will be a financial hit to CBS Radio, which also suffered when Howard Stern departed for satellite radio. The program is worth about $15 million in annual revenue to CBS, which owns Imus' home radio station WFAN-AM and manages Westwood One, the company that syndicates the show across the country.
The Rev. Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson met with Moonves on Thursday to demand Imus' removal, promising a rally outside CBS headquarters Saturday and an effort to persuade more advertisers to abandon Imus.
Sumner Redstone, chairman of the CBS Corp. board and its chief stockholder, told Newsweek that he had expected Moonves to "do the right thing," although it wasn't clear what he thought that was.
The news came down in the middle of Imus' Radiothon, which has raised more than $40 million since 1990. The Radiothon had raised more than $1.3 million Thursday before Imus learned that he lost his job.
"This may be our last Radiothon, so we need to raise about $100 million," Imus cracked at the start of the event.
Volunteers were getting about 200 more pledges per hour than they did last year, with most callers expressing support for Imus, said Tony Gonzalez, supervisor of the Radiothon phone bank. The event benefited Tomorrows Children's Fund, the CJ Foundation for SIDS and the Imus Ranch.
Imus, whose suspension was supposed to start next week, was in the awkward situation of broadcasting Thursday's radio program from the MSNBC studios in New Jersey, even though NBC News said the night before that MSNBC would no longer simulcast his program on television.
He didn't attack MSNBC for its decision -- "I understand the pressure they were under," he said -- but complained the network was doing some unethical things during the broadcast. He didn't elaborate.
He acknowledged again that his comments about the Rutgers women's basketball players a day after they had competed in the NCAA championship game had been "really stupid." He said he had apologized enough and wasn't going to whine about his fate.
Sharpton and Jackson emerged from a meeting with Moonves saying the corporate chief had promised to consider their requests.
"It's not about taking Imus down," Sharpton said. "It's about lifting decency up."
Sheila Johnson, owner of the WNBA's Washington Mystics and, with her ex-husband Robert, co-founder of BET, called Imus' comments reprehensible in an interview with The Associated Press. She said she had called Moonves to urge that CBS cut all ties with the veteran radio star, and was worried that what he said could hurt women's sports.
"I think what Imus has done has put a cloud over what we've tried to do in promoting women's athletics," she said.
Several sponsors, including American Express Co., Sprint Nextel Corp., Staples Inc., Procter & Gamble Co., and General Motors Corp., have said they were pulling ads from Imus' show indefinitely. Imus made a point Thursday to thank one sponsor, Bigelow Tea, for sticking by him.
The list of his potential guests began to shrink, too.
Newsweek Editor Jon Meacham said the magazine's staffers would no longer appear on Imus' show. Meacham, Jonathan Alter, Evan Thomas, Howard Fineman and Michael Isikoff from Newsweek have been frequent guests.
Imus has complained bitterly about a lack of support from one black politician, Harold Ford Jr., even though he strongly backed Ford's campaign for Senate in Tennessee last year. Ford, now head of the Democratic Leadership Council, said Thursday he'll leave it to others to decide Imus' future.
"I don't want to be viewed as piling on right now because Don Imus is a good friend and a decent man," Ford said. "However, he did a reprehensible thing."
Imus' troubles have also affected his wife, author Deirdre Imus, whose household cleaning guide, "Green This!" came out this week. Her promotional tour has been called off "because of the enormous pressure that Deirdre and her family are under," said Simon & Schuster publicist Victoria Meyer.
People are buying it, though: An original printing of 45,000 was increased to 55,000.
Imus still has a lot of support among radio managers across the country, many of whom grew up listening to him, said Tom Taylor, editor of the trade publication Inside Radio.
Yet he's clearly became a political liability for a major corporation -- CBS. (General Electric Co. owns NBC Universal, of which MSNBC is a part.) NBC News said anger about Imus among some of its employees had as much to do with ending the MSNBC simulcast as the advertiser defection.
Bryan Monroe, president of the National Association of Black Journalists and vice president and editor director of Ebony and Jet magazines, met with Moonves on Wednesday. It seemed clear Moonves and his aides were struggling with a difficult decision, he said. He urged them to take advantage of an opportunity to take a stand against the coarsening of culture.
"Something happened in the last week around America," Monroe said. "It's not just what the radio host did. America said enough is enough. America said we don't want this kind of conversation, we don't want this kind of vitriol, especially with teenagers."
Rutgers' team, meanwhile, appeared Thursday on "The Oprah Winfrey Show" with their coach, C. Vivian Stringer.
At the end of their appearance, Winfrey said: "I want to borrow a line from Maya Angelou, who is a personal mentor of mine and I know you all also feel the same way about her. And she has said this many times, and I say this to you, on behalf of myself and every woman that I know, you make me proud to spell my name W-O-M-A-N. You've really handled this beautifully."
Imus said earlier Thursday he still wants to meet with the team.
"At some point, I'm not sure when, I'm going to talk to the team," he said. "That's all I'm interested in doing."
Rev. DeForest Soaries, who is Stringer's pastor and has been helping negotiate the terms of the meeting with Imus, said he had not yet talked with Imus or coach Stringer but said: "Right now, as far as I know, the meeting is still on."
Soaries said the fact that Imus was off the air on both MSNBC and CBS took some pressure off of the upcoming meeting with the Rutgers women.
"This removes the burden from Rutgers women to determine the status of Imus' employment," Soaries said in a telephone interview.
Associated Press correspondents Karen Matthews, Warren Levinson, Seth Sutel, Tara Burghart and Hillel Italie contributed to this report.
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April 12, 2007
NEW YORK (AP) -- CBS fired Don Imus from his radio program Thursday, the finale to a stunning fall for one of the nation's most prominent broadcasters.
Imus initially was given a two-week suspension for calling the Rutgers women's basketball team "nappy-headed hos" on the air last week, but outrage continued to grow and advertisers bolted from his CBS radio show and its MSNBC simulcast.
ADVERTISEMENT
"There has been much discussion of the effect language like this has on our young people, particularly young women of color trying to make their way in this society," CBS President and Chief Executive Officer Leslie Moonves said in announcing the decision. "That consideration has weighed most heavily on our minds as we made our decision."
Rutgers women's basketball team spokeswoman Stacey Brann said the team did not have an immediate comment on Imus' firing.
Time Magazine once named the cantankerous broadcaster as one of the 25 Most Influential People in America, and he was a member of the National Broadcaster Hall of Fame.
But Imus found himself at the center of a storm as protests intensified. On Wednesday, MSNBC dropped the simulcast of Imus' show.
Losing Imus will be a financial hit to CBS Radio, which also suffered when Howard Stern departed for satellite radio. The program is worth about $15 million in annual revenue to CBS, which owns Imus' home radio station WFAN-AM and manages Westwood One, the company that syndicates the show across the country.
The Rev. Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson met with Moonves on Thursday to demand Imus' removal, promising a rally outside CBS headquarters Saturday and an effort to persuade more advertisers to abandon Imus.
Sumner Redstone, chairman of the CBS Corp. board and its chief stockholder, told Newsweek that he had expected Moonves to "do the right thing," although it wasn't clear what he thought that was.
The news came down in the middle of Imus' Radiothon, which has raised more than $40 million since 1990. The Radiothon had raised more than $1.3 million Thursday before Imus learned that he lost his job.
"This may be our last Radiothon, so we need to raise about $100 million," Imus cracked at the start of the event.
Volunteers were getting about 200 more pledges per hour than they did last year, with most callers expressing support for Imus, said Tony Gonzalez, supervisor of the Radiothon phone bank. The event benefited Tomorrows Children's Fund, the CJ Foundation for SIDS and the Imus Ranch.
Imus, whose suspension was supposed to start next week, was in the awkward situation of broadcasting Thursday's radio program from the MSNBC studios in New Jersey, even though NBC News said the night before that MSNBC would no longer simulcast his program on television.
He didn't attack MSNBC for its decision -- "I understand the pressure they were under," he said -- but complained the network was doing some unethical things during the broadcast. He didn't elaborate.
He acknowledged again that his comments about the Rutgers women's basketball players a day after they had competed in the NCAA championship game had been "really stupid." He said he had apologized enough and wasn't going to whine about his fate.
Sharpton and Jackson emerged from a meeting with Moonves saying the corporate chief had promised to consider their requests.
"It's not about taking Imus down," Sharpton said. "It's about lifting decency up."
Sheila Johnson, owner of the WNBA's Washington Mystics and, with her ex-husband Robert, co-founder of BET, called Imus' comments reprehensible in an interview with The Associated Press. She said she had called Moonves to urge that CBS cut all ties with the veteran radio star, and was worried that what he said could hurt women's sports.
"I think what Imus has done has put a cloud over what we've tried to do in promoting women's athletics," she said.
Several sponsors, including American Express Co., Sprint Nextel Corp., Staples Inc., Procter & Gamble Co., and General Motors Corp., have said they were pulling ads from Imus' show indefinitely. Imus made a point Thursday to thank one sponsor, Bigelow Tea, for sticking by him.
The list of his potential guests began to shrink, too.
Newsweek Editor Jon Meacham said the magazine's staffers would no longer appear on Imus' show. Meacham, Jonathan Alter, Evan Thomas, Howard Fineman and Michael Isikoff from Newsweek have been frequent guests.
Imus has complained bitterly about a lack of support from one black politician, Harold Ford Jr., even though he strongly backed Ford's campaign for Senate in Tennessee last year. Ford, now head of the Democratic Leadership Council, said Thursday he'll leave it to others to decide Imus' future.
"I don't want to be viewed as piling on right now because Don Imus is a good friend and a decent man," Ford said. "However, he did a reprehensible thing."
Imus' troubles have also affected his wife, author Deirdre Imus, whose household cleaning guide, "Green This!" came out this week. Her promotional tour has been called off "because of the enormous pressure that Deirdre and her family are under," said Simon & Schuster publicist Victoria Meyer.
People are buying it, though: An original printing of 45,000 was increased to 55,000.
Imus still has a lot of support among radio managers across the country, many of whom grew up listening to him, said Tom Taylor, editor of the trade publication Inside Radio.
Yet he's clearly became a political liability for a major corporation -- CBS. (General Electric Co. owns NBC Universal, of which MSNBC is a part.) NBC News said anger about Imus among some of its employees had as much to do with ending the MSNBC simulcast as the advertiser defection.
Bryan Monroe, president of the National Association of Black Journalists and vice president and editor director of Ebony and Jet magazines, met with Moonves on Wednesday. It seemed clear Moonves and his aides were struggling with a difficult decision, he said. He urged them to take advantage of an opportunity to take a stand against the coarsening of culture.
"Something happened in the last week around America," Monroe said. "It's not just what the radio host did. America said enough is enough. America said we don't want this kind of conversation, we don't want this kind of vitriol, especially with teenagers."
Rutgers' team, meanwhile, appeared Thursday on "The Oprah Winfrey Show" with their coach, C. Vivian Stringer.
At the end of their appearance, Winfrey said: "I want to borrow a line from Maya Angelou, who is a personal mentor of mine and I know you all also feel the same way about her. And she has said this many times, and I say this to you, on behalf of myself and every woman that I know, you make me proud to spell my name W-O-M-A-N. You've really handled this beautifully."
Imus said earlier Thursday he still wants to meet with the team.
"At some point, I'm not sure when, I'm going to talk to the team," he said. "That's all I'm interested in doing."
Rev. DeForest Soaries, who is Stringer's pastor and has been helping negotiate the terms of the meeting with Imus, said he had not yet talked with Imus or coach Stringer but said: "Right now, as far as I know, the meeting is still on."
Soaries said the fact that Imus was off the air on both MSNBC and CBS took some pressure off of the upcoming meeting with the Rutgers women.
"This removes the burden from Rutgers women to determine the status of Imus' employment," Soaries said in a telephone interview.
Associated Press correspondents Karen Matthews, Warren Levinson, Seth Sutel, Tara Burghart and Hillel Italie contributed to this report.
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If NOBODY would of said a word about it, and SHARPTON and Jackson stayed quiet. WOULD HE have STILL gotten fired? I believe PROBABLY NOT. Which tells me he didn't "GO OUT AND EMBARASS HIS COMPANY" They fired him because people wouldn't shutup about it, IT "BECAME" AN ISSUE WHICH HAD TO BE DELT WITH, advertisers started pulling out because of the "negativity"involved in which he says. The station became worried of losing ratings and being called a racist station, so the station did do what they felt was "BEST for their company. My point is to respond to your reply. If none would of said a thing about it, this would NEVER be an issue. We have to be on our toes because Jackson and Sharpton are out there and if THEY do not like WHAT YOU SAY Then YOU WILL BE FIRED..THE COMPANY REACTED BECAUSE SHARPTON AND JACKSON MADE IT AN ISSUE..HE EMBARASSED HIS COMPANY? BUT............IF HE SAID "THOSE UNATHLETIC WHITE HOES SUCK" or MANY TIMES HAS SAID"FAT PEOPLE HAVE A BAD ODOR" THAT IS STILL OFFENSIVE NO? HE WOULD STILL HAVE A JOB AND NO ONE WOULD OF RAISED AN ISSUE ABOUT IT..YET WHAT HE SAID WOULD STILL BE WRONG NO? So basically he has been "EMBARASSING" his COMPANY for years!!! YET THEY NEVER FIRED HIM UNTIL NOW...HMMMMM
You have a right to agree or disagree but this is MORE than going out an EMBARASSING YOUR COMPANY...They ONLY FIRED HIM BECAUSE IT BECAME AN ISSUE HAD NO ONE SAID A WORD HE'D STILL HAVE A JOB. IF THEY FELT HIS WORDS WERE AN "EMBARASSMENT" TO THE COMPANY THEY WOULDN'T OF WAITED THIS LONG TO FIRE HIM! They wanted to see if it would "GO AWAY" and it didn't...Rappers refer to "Beating a Hoe" "Smacking a Hoe" "Killing a N....A wit a glock" yet thats NOT offensive
I am not racist regardless what it may seem. FOR THE RECORD I DO THINK WHAT HE SAID WAS VERY VERY WRONG. HOWEVER he has SAID MANY MANY WRONG THINGS BEFORE YET NEVER EVER BEEN PENALIZED FOR IT UNTIL A ISSUE OCCURED!!
I will just read your reponse if you have one. I won't be replying because Obviously we will be here for days going back and fourth and I just do not have the time for that. You raised a valid point and I agree with you to some extent but feel that is NOT the situation here.
The fact he got fired for the comment is ridiculous. I did not even know who he was until the controversy. The good Reverend and Al have railroaded him. They think they are the morality police. Jesse has a love child and the good Reverend, well I do not give a rats ass about him or know anything about the guy. :com:
