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About Sarah Palin: an e-mail from Wasilla
A suburban Anchorage homemaker and activist ? who once did battle with the Alaska governor when Palin was mayor ? recounts what she knows of Palin's history.

By Anne Kilkenny


Editor's note: The writer is a homemaker and education advocate in Wasilla, Alaska. Late last week, Anne Kilkenny penned an e-mail for her friends about vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin, whom she personally knows, that has since circulated across comment forums and blogs nationwide. Here is her e-mail in its entirety, posted with her permission.

I am a resident of Wasilla, Alaska. I have known Gov. Sarah Palin since 1992. Everyone here knows Sarah, so it is nothing special to say we are on a first-name basis. Our children have attended the same schools. Her father was my child's favorite substitute teacher. I also am on a first-name basis with her parents and mother-in-law. I attended more City Council meetings during her administration than about 99 percent of the residents of the city.

She is enormously popular; in every way she's like the most popular girl in middle school. Even men who think she is a poor choice for vice president and won't vote for her can't quit smiling when talking about her because she is a "babe."

It is astonishing and almost scary how well she can keep a secret. She kept her most recent pregnancy a secret from her children and parents for seven months.

She is "pro-life." She recently gave birth to a Down's syndrome baby. There is no cover-up involved here; Trig is her baby.

She is energetic and hardworking. She regularly worked out at the gym.

She is savvy. She doesn't take positions; she just "puts things out there" and if they prove to be popular, then she takes credit.

Her husband works a union job on the North Slope for BP and is a champion snowmobile racer. Todd Palin's kind of job is highly sought-after because of the schedule and high pay. He arranges his work schedule so he can fish for salmon in Bristol Bay for a month or so in summer, but by no stretch of the imagination is fishing their major source of income. Nor has her lifestyle ever been anything like that of native Alaskans.

Sarah and her whole family are avid hunters.

She's smart.

Her experience is as mayor of a city with a population of about 5,000 (at the time) and less than two years as governor of a state with about 670,000 residents.

During her mayoral administration, most of the actual work of running this small city was turned over to an administrator. She had been pushed to hire this administrator by party power-brokers after she had gotten herself into some trouble over precipitous firings, which had given rise to a recall campaign.

Sarah campaigned in Wasilla as a "fiscal conservative." During her six years as mayor, she increased general government expenditures by more than 33 percent. During those same six years, the amount of taxes collected by the city increased by 38 percent. This was during a period of low inflation (1996-2002). She reduced progressive property taxes and increased a regressive sales tax, which taxed even food. The tax cuts that she promoted benefitted large corporate property owners way more than they benefited residents.

The huge increases in tax revenue during her mayoral administration weren't enough to fund everything on her wish list, though ? borrowed money was needed, too. She inherited a city with zero debt but left it with indebtedness of more than $22 million. What did Mayor Palin encourage the voters to borrow money for? Was it the infrastructure that she said she supported? The sewage treatment plant that the city lacked? Or a new library? No. $1 million for a park. $15 million-plus for construction of a multi-use sports complex, which she rushed through, on a piece of property that the city didn't even have clear title to. That was still in litigation seven years later ? to the delight of the lawyers involved! The sports complex itself is a nice addition to the community but a huge money pit, not the profit-generator she claimed it would be. She also supported bonds for $5.5 million for road projects that could have been done in five to seven years without any borrowing.

While Mayor, City Hall was extensively remodeled and her office redecorated more than once.

These are small numbers, but Wasilla is a very small city.

As an oil producer, the high price of oil has created a budget surplus in Alaska. Rather than invest this surplus in technology that will make us energy independent and increase efficiency, as governor Sarah proposed distribution of this surplus to every individual in the state.

In this time of record state revenues and budget surpluses, she recommended that the state borrow/bond for road projects, even while she proposed distribution of surplus state revenue: Spend today's surplus, borrow for needs.

She's not very tolerant of divergent opinions or open to outside ideas or compromise. As mayor, she fought ideas that weren't generated by her or her staff. Ideas weren't evaluated on their merits but on the basis of who proposed them.

While Sarah was mayor of Wasilla, she tried to fire our highly respected city librarian because the librarian refused to consider removing from the library some books that Sarah wanted removed. City residents rallied to the defense of the city librarian and against Palin's attempt at out-and-out censorship, so Palin backed down and withdrew her termination letter. People who fought her attempt to oust the librarian are on her enemies list to this day.

Sarah complained about the "old boy's club" when she first ran for mayor, so what did she bring Wasilla? A new set of "old boys." Palin fired most of the experienced staff she inherited. At the city and as governor, she hired or elevated new, inexperienced, obscure people, creating a staff totally dependent on her for their jobs and eternally grateful and fiercely loyal ? loyal to the point of abusing their power to further her personal agenda, as she has acknowledged happened in the case of pressuring the state's top cop.

As mayor, Sarah fired Wasilla's police chief because he "intimidated" her, she told the press. As governor, her recent firing of Alaska's top cop has the ring of familiarity about it. He served at her pleasure and she had every legal right to fire him, but it's pretty clear that an important factor in her decision to fire him was because he wouldn't fire her sister's ex-husband, a state trooper. Under investigation for abuse of power, she has had to admit that more than two dozen contacts were made between her staff and family to the person that she later fired, pressuring him to fire her ex-brother-in-law. She tried to replace the man she fired with a man who she knew had been reprimanded for sexual harassment; when this caused a public furor, she withdrew her support.

She has bitten the hand of every person who extended theirs to her in help. The City Council person who personally escorted her around town, introducing her to voters when she first ran for Wasilla City Council became one of her first targets when she was later elected mayor. She abruptly fired her loyal city administrator; even people who didn't like the guy were stunned by this ruthlessness.

Fear of retribution has kept all of these people from saying anything publicly about her.

When then-Gov. Frank Murkowski was handing out political plums, Sarah got the best, chair of the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission ? one of the few jobs not in Juneau and one of the best paid. She had no background in oil and gas issues. Within months of scoring this great job, which paid $122,400 a year, she was complaining in the press about the high salary. I was told that she hated that job: the commute, the structured hours, the work. Sarah became aware that a member of this commission (who was also the state chair of the Republican Party) engaged in unethical behavior on the job. In a gutsy move which some undoubtedly cautioned her could be political suicide, Sarah solved all her problems in one fell swoop: got out of the job she hated and garnered gobs of media attention as the patron saint of ethics and as a gutsy fighter against the "old boys' club," when she dramatically quit, exposing this man's ethics violations (for which he was fined).

As mayor, she had her hand stuck out as far as anyone for pork from Sen. Ted Stevens. Lately, she has castigated his pork-barrel politics and publicly humiliated him. She only opposed the "bridge to nowhere" after it became clear that it would be unwise not to.

As governor, she gave the Legislature no direction and budget guidelines, then made a big grandstand display of line-item vetoing projects, calling them pork. Public outcry and further legislative action restored most of these projects ? which had been vetoed simply because she was not aware of their importance ? but with the unobservant she had gained a reputation as "anti-pork."

She is solidly Republican: no political maverick. The state party leaders hate her because she has bit them in the back and humiliated them. Other members of the party object to her self-description as a fiscal conservative.

Around Wasilla, there are people who went to high school with Sarah. They call her "Sarah Barracuda" because of her unbridled ambition and predatory ruthlessness. Before she became so powerful, very ugly stories circulated around town about shenanigans she pulled to be made point guard on the high school basketball team. When Sarah's mother-in-law, a highly respected member of the community and experienced manager, ran for mayor, Sarah refused to endorse her.

As governor, she stepped outside of the box and put together of package of legislation known as "AGIA" that forced the oil companies to march to the beat of her drum.

Like most Alaskans, she favors drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge (ANWR). She has questioned if the loss of sea ice is linked to global warming. She campaigned "as a private citizen" against a state initiaitive that would have either protected salmon streams from pollution from mines or tied up in the courts all mining in the state (depending on whom you listen to). She has pushed the state's lawsuit against the Department of the Interior's decision to list polar bears as a threatened species.

McCain is the oldest person to ever run for president; Sarah will be a heartbeat away from being president.

There has to be literally millions of Americans who are more knowledgeable and experienced than she.

However, there are a lot of people who have underestimated her and are regretting it.

Claim vs. Fact

"Hockey mom": True for a few years
"PTA mom": True years ago when her first-born was in elementary school, not since
"NRA supporter": Absolutely true
Social conservative: mixed. Opposes gay marriage, but vetoed a bill that would have denied benefits to employees in same-sex relationships (said she did this because it was unconsitutional).
Pro-creationism: Mixed. Supports it, but did nothing as governor to promote it.
"Pro-life": Mixed. Knowingly gave birth to a Down's syndrome baby but declined to call a special legislative session on some pro-life legislation.
"Experienced": Some high schools have more students than Wasilla has residents. Many cities have more residents than the state of Alaska. No legislative experience other than City Council. Little hands-on supervisory or managerial experience; needed help of a city administrator to run town of about 5,000.
Political maverick: Not at all.
Gutsy: Absolutely!
Open and transparent: ??? Good at keeping secrets. Not good at explaining actions.
Has a developed philosophy of public policy: No.
"A Greenie": No. Turned Wasilla into a wasteland of big box stores and disconnected parking lots. Is pro-drilling off-shore and in ANWR.
Fiscal conservative: Not by my definition!
Pro-infrastructure: No. Promoted a sports complex and park in a city without a sewage treatment plant or storm drainage system. Built streets to early 20th century standards.
Pro-tax relief: Lowered taxes for businesses, increased tax burden on residents
Pro-small government: No. Oversaw greatest expansion of city government in Wasilla's history.
Pro-labor/pro-union: No. Just because her husband works union doesn't make her pro-labor. I have seen nothing to support any claim that she is pro-labor/pro-union.

Why am I writing this?

First, I have long believed in the importance of being an informed voter. I am a voter registrar. For 10 years I put on student voting programs in the schools. If you google my name, you will find references to my participation in local government, education, and PTA/parent organizations.

Secondly, I've always operated in the belief that "bad things happen when good people stay silent." Few people know as much as I do because few have gone to as many City Council meetings.

Third, I am just a housewife. I don't have a job she can bump me out of. I don't belong to any organization that she can hurt. But I am no fool; she is immensely popular here, and it is likely that this will cost me somehow in the future: that's life.

Fourth, she has hated me since back in 1996, when I was one of the 100 or so people who rallied to support the city librarian against Sarah's attempt at censorship.

Fifth, I looked around and realized that everybody else was afraid to say anything because they were somehow vulnerable.

Caveats: I am not a statistician. I developed the numbers for the increase in spending and taxation two years ago (when Palin was running for governor) from information supplied to me by the finance director of the City of Wasilla, and I can't recall exactly what I adjusted for: Did I adjust for inflation? For population increases? Right now, it is impossible for a private person to get any info out of City Hall ? they are swamped. So I can't verify my numbers.

You may have noticed that there are various numbers circulating for the population of Wasilla, ranging from my "about 5,000" up to 9,000. The day Palin's selection was announced, a city official told me that the current population is about 7,000. The official 2000 census count was 5,460. I have used about 5,000 because Palin was Mayor from 1996 to 2002, and the city was growing rapidly in the mid-1990s.

Anne Kilkenny is a homemaker and education advocate in Wasilla, Alaska.
 

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Talk about grudge match. This is a personal attack at best. "Sarah has hated me since 1996." She should now you idiot. Yes, I think I will totally believe a disgruntled democratic voter that has taken facts gathered from a failing democratic campaign in Alaska.
 

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Talk about grudge match. This is a personal attack at best. "Sarah has hated me since 1996." She should now you idiot. Yes, I think I will totally believe a disgruntled democratic voter that has taken facts gathered from a failing democratic campaign in Alaska.

I like this guy:00hour
 

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I'd be curious which of these sources you got this from Gregg.

I typed in
About Sarah Palin: an e-mail from Wasilla

on google search and couldn't find one major news source--just the basic liberal blogs that brought us --she was never pregnant-and other scoops. :shrug:

Do have a few major sources on what Alaskans think about her--

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So what do we know about Palin?s approval ratings among Alaskans? They are remarkably high.

A May 2007 poll taken by Ivan Moore Research in Alaska put Palin?s positive rating at 89 percent. That?s off the charts high. But Moore?s survey wasn?t a traditional approval rating or job performance measure. Rather, respondents were asked to rate their feelings toward public figures as very or somewhat positive or very or somewhat negative. The verys and somewhats were then combined.

A poll two weeks before that one, from Dittman Research, gave Palin a 93 percent approval rating.

The Moore poll numbers hit a low of 76 percent in mid July ? in the midst of ?Troopergate? coverage ? but bounced back to 80 percent in mid August. That mirrored a Hays Research Group poll on July 24 and 25 in which 80 percent rated Palin?s performance as somewhat or very favorable.

Moore hasn?t polled similar questions in other states, so he wouldn?t say categorically that Palin?s are the highest in the country. ?But it doesn?t take a rocket scientist to know 89 percent is going to be at the top of the list,? Moore said.

On Sept. 3, the McCain campaign released results of an American Viewpoint poll on Sept. 2 ? after the announcement of Palin as McCain?s running mate ? that found Palin had an 86 percent overall job approval rating. That was a poll commissioned by the McCain campaign, so take that for what it?s worth.

Again, these are extraordinarily high numbers by any measure. But according to Rasmussen polls, Palin gave up her crown as ?most popular? in July, overtaken by North Dakota?s Gov. John Hoeven.

A Rasmussen poll on July 30 found 64% of voters rate Palin?s job performance as excellent or good versus 14% who view it as poor. On July 8, Hoeven clocked 72 percent at excellent or good against just 6 percent who rated his performance as poor.

Scott Rasmussen, founder and CEO of Rasmussen Reports, said people shouldn?t get hung up on whether someone ranked No. 1 or 2. Those numbers change with the political winds of the day.

?In a broader sense, she (Palin) is one of the very top,? Rasmussen said.

The polling firm SurveyUSA has in the past conducted governor?s approval ratings in all 50 states, but not since Palin took office.

In 2006, the highest ratings were around 80 percent.

The ratings being reported in Alaska for Palin are ?extraordinarily high,? said Jay Leve, editor of SurveyUSA. ?Those kinds of numbers are unprecedented.?

And based on the previous highs for approval ratings, he said, it?s highly likely Palin is now top dog.

Jennifer Duffy, a senior editor for The Cook Political Report, and John McIntyre, managing editor at Real Clear Politics ? two groups that pay close attention to such things ? also believe Palin?s numbers rank her as the most popular.

?It?s difficult to make a categorical statement like that,? McIntyre said. ?But generally, they are on pretty solid ground. If I was a betting person, I bet that?s an accurate statement. Once your approval rating is over 80 percent, it?s a little silly.?

Bottom line, most experts say the McCain campaign is probably right. We rate it True.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/690/
 
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Link: http://www.jedreport.com/2008/09/new-gop-spin-palins-not-ready.html
- - Todd Harris, a GOP strategist who is close to the McCain campaign, is conceding that Palin's not even ready to be a vice presidential candidate, let alone be president.

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http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/georgepacker/2008/09/i-wasnt-in-st-p.html
- - Here?s how the Republican Convention looked: John McCain became a P.O.W. this week, at the hands of his own Party. It was Sarah Palin?s Convention, not McCain?s. His speech last night was so out of sync with the vituperative tone and stale, hard-right cultural populism of the Convention?s other headliners?above all, Palin?that he sounded less like a Presidential nominee than one of those token speakers given a spot on the program just to prove that the Party welcomes diversity.

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The Obama campaign will remain on message: John McCain vs. Barack Obama.

Umm......

As Obama said.

Enough.


The wingnuts will be busy with Sarah Palin.


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Link: http://www.jedreport.com/2008/09/new-gop-spin-palins-not-ready.html
- - Todd Harris, a GOP strategist who is close to the McCain campaign, is conceding that Palin's not even ready to be a vice presidential candidate, let alone be president.
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http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/georgepacker/2008/09/i-wasnt-in-st-p.html
- - Here?s how the Republican Convention looked: John McCain became a P.O.W. this week, at the hands of his own Party. It was Sarah Palin?s Convention, not McCain?s. His speech last night was so out of sync with the vituperative tone and stale, hard-right cultural populism of the Convention?s other headliners?above all, Palin?that he sounded less like a Presidential nominee than one of those token speakers given a spot on the program just to prove that the Party welcomes diversity.

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The Obama campaign will remain on message: John McCain vs. Barack Obama.




The wingnuts will be busy with Sarah Palin.


GL

Thats what both Clintons and Biden said about Obama.

--Anyone want to debate on who is less qualified between the 2 -- thats one good thing about choice of Palin--when Dems and their backers have one finger pointing at Palin--there is 4 pointing back at them.

I'm with you Chad on her lack of experience--but would rather have it in VP slot than Pres slot.

I am kinda in the Krauthammer camp on this her.

Palins problem
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/04/AR2008090402845.html
 

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Good article.

The gamble is enormous. In a stroke, McCain gratuitously forfeited his most powerful argument against Obama. And this was even before Palin's inevitable liabilities began to pile up -- inevitable because any previously unvetted neophyte has "issues." The kid. The state trooper investigation. And worst, the paucity of any Palin record or expressed conviction on the major issues of our time.
 

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If there is truth to the claims of Palin, then she is not what I would want as VP

However, from the same Urban Legend site:

Email example contributed by Gordon M., Sep. 2, 2008:

FW: Joe Biden (You WON'T see THIS "reported"....ANYWHERE!!!)

I feel an obligation to honesty and truth to share with you some facts. My Father and Mother instilled in me the values and morals of treating people fairly and always being honest. If you purchase something, you pay for it. If you borrow something, you give it back.

I have been "stiffed" three times in my 30 year professional career by someone who I rendered services to, gave a finished product to, but who refused to pay for those services even though they acknowledged the services and products were correct, were what they asked for, and were never challenged for not being correct. I am lucky in having only three, but those three hurt badly.

Joe Biden was one of those people. I worked on his 1988 Presidential campaign financial disclosure engagement. I busted it for him and got everything right. He stiffed me for over $15,000 worth of work. He refused to pay once he dropped out of the race. I did similar Capitol Hill campaign financial disclosure work for Bob Dole, Pat Buchanan, and a Democratic candidate for Ambassador to New Zealand. All of those folks paid even though they lost the election or did not get the appointment. That type of work is very demanding and very tedious because your efforts are scrutinized by Congress. Biden did not care.

I am on the Board of Directors of a company that owns a majority position in a private jet management company in Northern Virginia. They manage jets for businesses and rich folks. They also charter planes to the public. This past winter John Thompson chartered over $250,000 worth of air time. He paid every penny.

Joe Biden, in his latest unsuccessful run for President, chartered over $150,000 worth of air time. He PAID ZERO. He continues to refuse to pay stating his race is over and he is out of money. He never once complained about his flights. Joe Biden is a rich man. He could pay.

Joe Biden is a liar and a cheat. I know it first hand. Character is what life is all about. Joe Biden is a man of bad character and sets a bad example for America.

I feel compelled to share this dark side of a man who asks for your vote and trust.

Best Regards,

Bruce D. Riddle, CPA, CFP
BDR Associates, LLC



Comments: I attempted to authenticate this email by contacting its author, CPA Bruce D. Riddle of Rockville, Maryland, and received this terse reply:

This was sent to six family members as a private email. Please do not forward. He has since paid in full.
I wasn't able to pry any further details out of him, but presumably Mr. Riddle stands by the accuracy of his charges, including the claim that at least part of the Biden campaign's debt to him was longstanding, and a perennial source of grievance. In any case, he now says the debt has been paid and the issue -- if not the hard feelings -- is resolved.

A Federal Elections Commission report shows that Biden for President, Inc. disbursed a total of $1,116,101.75 during the month of August 2008 and was still $173,999.97 in debt. For comparison, Hillary Clinton's campaign still owes $23,973,973.60, Mitt Romney's owes $44,555,000.00, and Mike Huckabee's owes $84,946.00.

Presidential campaigns typically amass millions of dollars of debt, and it often takes many years -- in rare cases, a decade or more -- for candidates to pay it off. "For losing candidates, campaign debts can linger for years," said an ABC News report in June 2008. "At the same time, the unpaid bills can cause hardships for campaign workers and vendors waiting for payment. Some end up receiving just pennies on the dollar -- if they can get paid at all."

In that respect it appears Mr. Riddle fared better than some, in the end.


- the point being that you can find personal testimonies , which may or not be true, against both VP candidates
- also, the Urban Legends website appears to be a site that specializes in hoaxes
 
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There is really a lot of BS going around now. There are a zillion emails claiming to be true. Be very careful in taking any of them at face value.
 

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Good article.

He's my fav commentator Gregg--he does lean conservative but calls the shots as he sees them both ways and rips both parties.
--and i agree with part you highlighted--lot of time left to go digging--but as I said before its a 2 way street and one is VP candidate and one pres.

Amazing the hoopla that both Palin and O have received for rhetoric with so little to back it up.

reminds me once again of Tony Robbins--
Sounds good till they wake up next day and reality sets in and they find out nothing is that easy--then have remorse on sending in the $125 on credit card ($300 after interest in paying minumum balance) only to sit and wait until next one with better hype for them to
make $200,000 a year working a few hours a day.:nooo:
 

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Since I can't think for myself, I'll just regurgitate a couple of items:

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1839724-1,00.html

Of the 50 states, Alaska ranks No. 1 in taxes per resident and No. 1 in spending per resident. Its tax burden per resident is 2 1/2 times the national average; its spending, more than double. The trick is that Alaska's government spends money on its own citizens and taxes the rest of us to pay for it. Although Palin, like McCain, talks about liberating ourselves from dependence on foreign oil, there is no evidence that being dependent on Alaskan oil would be any more pleasant to the pocketbook.

Alaska is, in essence, an adjunct member of OPEC. It has four different taxes on oil, which produce more than 89% of the state's unrestricted revenue. On average, three-quarters of the value of a barrel of oil is taken by the state government before that oil is permitted to leave the state. Alaska residents each get a yearly check for about $2,000 from oil revenues, plus an additional $1,200 pushed through by Palin last year to take advantage of rising oil prices. Any sympathy the governor of Alaska expresses for folks in the lower 48 who are suffering from high gas prices or can't afford to heat their homes is strictly crocodile tears.

As if it couldn't support itself, Alaska also ranks No. 1, year after year, in money it sucks in from Washington. In 2005 (the most recent figures), according to the Tax Foundation, Alaska ranked 18th in federal taxes paid per resident ($5,434) but first in federal spending received per resident ($13,950). Its ratio of federal spending received to federal taxes paid ranks third among the 50 states, and in the absolute amount it receives from Washington over and above the amount it sends to Washington, Alaska ranks No. 1.

Under the state constitution, the governor of Alaska has unusually strong powers to shape the state budget. At the Republican National Convention, Palin bragged that she had vetoed "nearly $500 million" in state spending during her two years as governor. This amounts to less than 2% of the proposed budget. That's how much this warrior for you (the people) against it (the government) could find in wasteful spending under her control.

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http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/content/jun2008/db20080611_220050.htm

Senators Barack Obama and John McCain have begun to hammer away at each other's tax and spending programs . . .

"I've said John McCain is running to serve out a third term, but when it comes to taxes, that's not being fair to George Bush. Senator McCain wants to add $300 billion more in tax breaks and loopholes for big corporations and the wealthiest Americans," Obama said . . .

"Under Senator Obama's tax plan, Americans of every background would see their taxes rise?seniors, parents, small business owners, and just about everyone who has even a modest investment in the market," McCain said in a speech to the National Small Business Summit in Washington, also on June 10 . . .

So where does the reality lie? According to a new analysis by the nonpartisan Tax Policy Center, a joint venture between the Urban Institute and the Brookings Institution, two Washington think tanks, this round goes to Obama. The TPC took a look at the various tax proposals put forth by the two candidates and estimated that Obama's plan would lead to a boost in aftertax income for all but the highest earners, while taking a smaller bite out of government tax revenues than would McCain's plans . . .

Under McCain's proposals, by contrast?including an extension of the Bush tax cuts for all taxpayers, a corporate tax cut, and a larger reduction in estate taxes than Obama would support?far more of the benefits would go to the top.

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Oops, one more, and that makes a few, which isn't a couple - Obama's Communist Manifesto for Economic Ruination, courtesy of the New York Times:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/24/m...=2&hp=&pagewanted=all&oref=slogin&oref=slogin

The fact that the economy grows ? that it produces more goods and services one year than it did in the previous one ? no longer ensures that most families will benefit from its growth. For the first time on record, an economic expansion seems to have ended without family income having risen substantially. Most families are still making less, after accounting for inflation, than they were in 2000. For these workers, roughly the bottom 60 percent of the income ladder, economic growth has become a theoretical concept rather than the wellspring of better medical care, a new car, a nicer house ? a better life than their parents had.

Americans have still been buying such things, but they have been doing so with debt. A big chunk of that debt will never be repaid, which is the most basic explanation for the financial crisis. Even after the crisis has passed, the larger problem of income stagnation will remain. It?s hardly the economy?s only serious problem either. There is also the slow unraveling of the employer-based health-insurance system and the fact that, come 2011, the baby boomers will start to turn 65, setting off an enormous rise in the government?s Medicare and Social Security obligations.

Most of these problems aren?t immediate, which helps explain why they have gone unaddressed for so long. And the United States remains a fabulously prosperous country, relative to almost any other country, at any point in history. Yet Americans seem to realize that something has gone wrong. In recent polls, about 80 percent of respondents say the economy is in bad shape, and almost 70 percent say it?s going to get worse. Together, these answers make for the most downbeat assessment since at least the early 1980s, and underscore that the next president will be inheriting a set of domestic problems as serious as any the country has faced in a long time . . .

(A) country?s health can?t be measured simply by its economic output. That output, (Robert F. Kennedy) said, ?counts special locks for our doors and the jails for those who break them? but not ?the health of our children, the quality of their education or the joy of their play.?

. . . Oops again, I said I was just regurgitating without any critical thinking, but I'll add the foolish observation that although, "Most families are still making less, after accounting for inflation, than they were in 2000", the productivity of those economic cogs known as workers was rising over the same time period. And while before-tax returns for capital/owners/management were growing dramatically, relative to labor, tax law changes were adopted to further skewer the growing disparity on an after-tax basis. Three cheers for that, Mr. Bush.

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I'd be curious which of these sources you got this from Gregg.

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About Sarah Palin: an e-mail from Wasilla

on google search and couldn't find one major news source--just the basic liberal blogs that brought us --she was never pregnant-and other scoops. :shrug:

Do have a few major sources on what Alaskans think about her--

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So what do we know about Palin?s approval ratings among Alaskans? They are remarkably high.

A May 2007 poll taken by Ivan Moore Research in Alaska put Palin?s positive rating at 89 percent. That?s off the charts high. But Moore?s survey wasn?t a traditional approval rating or job performance measure. Rather, respondents were asked to rate their feelings toward public figures as very or somewhat positive or very or somewhat negative. The verys and somewhats were then combined.

A poll two weeks before that one, from Dittman Research, gave Palin a 93 percent approval rating.

The Moore poll numbers hit a low of 76 percent in mid July ? in the midst of ?Troopergate? coverage ? but bounced back to 80 percent in mid August. That mirrored a Hays Research Group poll on July 24 and 25 in which 80 percent rated Palin?s performance as somewhat or very favorable.

Moore hasn?t polled similar questions in other states, so he wouldn?t say categorically that Palin?s are the highest in the country. ?But it doesn?t take a rocket scientist to know 89 percent is going to be at the top of the list,? Moore said.

On Sept. 3, the McCain campaign released results of an American Viewpoint poll on Sept. 2 ? after the announcement of Palin as McCain?s running mate ? that found Palin had an 86 percent overall job approval rating. That was a poll commissioned by the McCain campaign, so take that for what it?s worth.

Again, these are extraordinarily high numbers by any measure. But according to Rasmussen polls, Palin gave up her crown as ?most popular? in July, overtaken by North Dakota?s Gov. John Hoeven.

A Rasmussen poll on July 30 found 64% of voters rate Palin?s job performance as excellent or good versus 14% who view it as poor. On July 8, Hoeven clocked 72 percent at excellent or good against just 6 percent who rated his performance as poor.

Scott Rasmussen, founder and CEO of Rasmussen Reports, said people shouldn?t get hung up on whether someone ranked No. 1 or 2. Those numbers change with the political winds of the day.

?In a broader sense, she (Palin) is one of the very top,? Rasmussen said.

The polling firm SurveyUSA has in the past conducted governor?s approval ratings in all 50 states, but not since Palin took office.

In 2006, the highest ratings were around 80 percent.

The ratings being reported in Alaska for Palin are ?extraordinarily high,? said Jay Leve, editor of SurveyUSA. ?Those kinds of numbers are unprecedented.?

And based on the previous highs for approval ratings, he said, it?s highly likely Palin is now top dog.

Jennifer Duffy, a senior editor for The Cook Political Report, and John McIntyre, managing editor at Real Clear Politics ? two groups that pay close attention to such things ? also believe Palin?s numbers rank her as the most popular.

?It?s difficult to make a categorical statement like that,? McIntyre said. ?But generally, they are on pretty solid ground. If I was a betting person, I bet that?s an accurate statement. Once your approval rating is over 80 percent, it?s a little silly.?

Bottom line, most experts say the McCain campaign is probably right. We rate it True.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/690/

i heard it`s nothing more than a smear chain letter sent out to e mails all over the net...

now,obama and his proxies have sent a cadre of lawyers to alaska to dig up dirt on palin....

he`s all about "change",you see...
 

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The truth is there some place. One thing for sure people who become her friend don't last long. You can hear it a little in her shrill voice. And she does have a happy lets fire people feature.
 

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i heard it`s nothing more than a smear chain letter sent out to e mails all over the net...

now,obama and his proxies have sent a cadre of lawyers to alaska to dig up dirt on palin....

he`s all about "change",you see...

Said in another thread--Palin has set liberal culture/media back 10 years--They been caught throwing up so much false info--no one will pay attention if they find factual dirt now--and again win or lose glad he took her now for that reason alone.

I expect we'll see article yet from liberal blogs of KOS or another professing to have "in tongue" interpretor saying her pastor of 10 years ago was saying GD America--but no one could understand him.:142smilie
 
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