Is Sarah Palin a good choice ?

[THE KOD]

Posted: 02:50 PM ET

From CNN's Jack Cafferty

The Washington Post reports that the head of McCain's vetting team didn't do an in-depth interview with Palin until the day before she was offered the number two slot.
When it comes to Alaska Governor Sarah Palin, the hits just keep on coming.:scared

Some of the latest revelations surrounding John McCain's surprise choice of a running mate: The Associated Press reports a private lawyer has been authorized to spend $95,000 dollars of state money to defend Palin in the trooper ethics probe. Contrary to her message of reform, Palin worked to get pork barrel projects for her city and state.:SIB

Also, according to the A.P., her husband was once a member of the Alaska Independence Party ? some members in that group advocate that Alaska secede from the Union. :scared

The McCain camp is pushing back hard, calling questions about Palin's background a "faux media scandal designed to destroy the first female Republican nominee" for V.P. and suggesting Palin is a victim of gender bias in the media. Where have we heard that before? They insist Palin was subject to a "long and thorough" vetting process. Really? The Washington Post reports that the head of McCain's vetting team didn't do an in-depth interview with Palin until the day before she was offered the number two slot.:SIB

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Lies beget more lies. Its a snowball getting bigger.

And her husband and her wanted to secede from America . Alaska its own country ?

wtf

Who is this woman

 

[The Sponge]

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wtf

Who is this woman

:mj07: :mj07:

 

[THE KOD]

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glad you find that amusing Sponge.

 

[THE KOD]

September 3, 2008

Hot mic catches GOP strategists trashing Palin pick
Posted: 09:00 PM ET

From CNN Ticker Producer Alexander Mooney


(CNN) ? Prominent Republican analysts Peggy Noonan and Mike Murphy became the latest victims of an open microphone Wednesday, caught after a segment on MSNBC trashing John McCain's pick of Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin as his running mate.

Noonan, a Wall Street Journal columnist and former speechwriter for Ronald Reagan, and Murphy, a campaign strategist and onetime aide to John McCain, can both be heard expressing disbelief with the pick of Palin after they apparently thought they were in a commercial break.
:scared :SIB
?I come out of the blue swing-state governor world, Engler, Whitman, Thompson, Mitt Romney,? Murphy said during the mishap which has since been posted on YouTube. Murphy later flatly says of the pick, "It's not going to work.":mj07:

Noonan is heard going even further, saying of the presidential race, "It's over." :00hour

"I think they went for this ? excuse me? political bulls?t about narratives," Noonan also said. "Every time the Republicans do that, because that's not where they live and it's not what they're good at, they blow it."

Murphy, who was a senior adviser to John McCain's 2000 presidential bid, also adds, "You know what's really the worst thing about it? The greatness of McCain is no cynicism, and this is cynical."
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Turn out the lights.

The partys over.....

When even McCains supporters are saying it.

Geeez Louise .

 

[THE KOD]

 

[THE KOD]

Palin aides peeked into trooper's files, union saysStory Highlights
State police union files ethics complaint against Palin

(CNN) -- Aides to Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin improperly obtained her former brother-in-law's state police personnel files and cited information from those records to raise complaints about the officer, the head of Alaska's state police union said Thursday.

Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin has put an aide on leave during a probe into the firing of the public safety commissioner.

"It's apparent to us that the governor or someone on her staff had direct access to his personnel file, as well as his workers' comp file, and those are protected," said John Cyr, executive director of the Alaska Public Safety Employees Association.:SIB

Palin, now the Republican candidate for vice president, is battling allegations that she sacked her public safety commissioner in July because he refused to fire Trooper Mike Wooten, her sister's ex-husband. The governor has denied any wrongdoing.

In an ethics complaint filed Wednesday, the union names the governor and three aides, one of whom cited Wooten's records in a tape-recorded call to a state police lieutenant in February. And the former commissioner, Walt Monegan, said he believes his refusal to fire Wooten led to his firing.

Monegan said no one directly demanded Wooten's dismissal, but the trooper was the subject of "constant" questions or comments "either verbally or in e-mail saying, 'Is this the kind of trooper that should be representing the troopers?' or 'This is not the kind that we want to have as a poster child.' "

"In the center of all of the controversy is Trooper Wooten's continued employment," he said. "Trooper Wooten was an irritant to her."

Palin said Monegan was sacked because of disagreements over the state budget. His firing is under investigation by the Alaska Legislature, but Palin's attorneys filed papers this week to request Alaska's Personnel Board take over the probe.

admitted members of her administration had contacted people in Monegan's department more than 20 times regarding Wooten since she took office in December 2006.

"The individual inquiries taken by themselves are one thing. Many of these inquiries were completely appropriate; however, the serial nature of the contacts understandably could be perceived as some kind of pressure, presumably at my direction," she said.

But in papers requesting the probe be transferred to the personnel board, Palin's lawyer called Wooten a "rogue trooper" who threatened the governor's family during a bitter divorce and custody battle. Thomas Van Flein, the governor's attorney, said it was appropriate to complain to the head of the department about a trooper the Palins believed posed a threat to their security.

Van Flein had no immediate response to the union complaint.

Palin had been complaining to state police officials about Wooten since before she became governor. In March 2006, he received a five-day suspension for drinking beer in his patrol car, illegally shooting a moose under his wife's hunting permit and using a Taser on his 10-year-old stepson "in a training capacity."

Van Flein said Wednesday the Palins were unaware any action had been taken against Wooten until after Monegan's firing.

In the February 29 call by Frank Bailey, Palin's boards and commissions director, to state police Lt. Rodney Dial, Bailey complained there had been "absolutely no action for a year on this issue." During the call, he said there was some "really funny business" about a worker's compensation claim Wooten had filed and suggested he lied about a health condition on his state police job application.

"That's extraordinary for them to reference that," Cyr said. Police application files contain results of background checks and reference letters, "and those are sealed. Even Trooper Wooten doesn't have access to those."

And during the February conversation, Dial questioned how Bailey had obtained information that was "extremely confidential."

"I'm trying to find out how it was determined by anybody that he had indicated something on his application that later was found to be not true," he said.

Bailey replied, "I'm a little bit reluctant to say." But he added, "Over in admin is where, you know, we hold workers' comp right in there."

Efforts to contact either Bailey or his attorney on Thursday were unsuccessful.

When she turned over the recording to the Legislature, Palin said she was "truly disappointed and disturbed to learn that a member of this administration contacted the Department of Public Safety regarding Trooper Wooten. At no time did I authorize any member of my staff to do so."

Palin placed Bailey on paid leave until the investigation is over.

Cyr said the union's complaint has been in the works since August 13, when the Bailey-Dial conversation was disclosed. "Of course, we had no way of knowing that Gov. Palin was tapped to be the vice president," he said.
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I thought we got rid of Hillary ?

Backdoor politics .

Cheaters never win.

GO OBAMA !

 

[RAYMOND]

dummy

 

[RAYMOND]

she got more balls than nobama my friend:SIB

 

[THE KOD]

 

[THE KOD]

- Take a few minutes to look up John McCain's Congressional voting record

There is a very big difference between what McCain says he supports (or will support) and what he actually has done in the Senate in last eight years.

Look at education. If you felt good this evening about his promise to support educational programs and that he will 'offer choices now and in the future'.

Here is reality: Since 2000, John McCain has either not voted by choice, or voted against 12 of the 15bills and / or amendments related to education in Congress.

? 05/22/08 S Amdt 4803 No Vote
? 12/18/07 HR 2764 No Vote
? 11/07/07 HR 3043 No Vote
? 10/24/07 S 2205 No Vote
? 10/23/07 HR 3043 No Vote
? 09/07/08 HR 2669 No Vote
? 07/20/07 HR 2669 No
? 10/26/07 HR 3010 No
? 10/26/07 HR 3010 No
? 10/25/07 HR 3010 No
? 05/13/04 S1248 Yes
? 05/13/04 HR1350 Yes
? 12/18/01 HR1 Yes
? 06/28/00 HR4577 No
? 03/02/00 S1134 No

RNC wants to redefine John McCain but its the same old McBush stuff we are used to in America.

 

[StevieD]

http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.j...7439257&grpId=3659174697243814&nav=Groupspace

Another Palin lie: 62% funding cut for children with special need.
September 04, 2008 10:05 AM EDT

Palin promised the parents of special needs children to be on their side last night. What she did not tell them is that she cut funding for those parents by 62%. First they get on stage and talk the good talk. When it comes to walking the walk, suddenly, they have an ankle sprain.

She did the same thing with that "Bridge to nowhere." She told us she opposed. Then we found out she is for it before she became against it.

She is forgainst it. That was a torn ligament.

Now she is talking about special needs children.

For those of you who seem so enamored with Gov. Sarah Palin, it might be worth noting that she oversees the budget for the Department of Education and Early Development Special Schools in Alaska.

These funds provide supplementary educational services to students with severe disabling conditions and the Alaska Challenge Youth Academy. The resident school where the child would normally be placed does not have the resources to provide an adequate educational program. Without the supplementary services the child's needs would not be met by the local school district in most cases.


The following programs are included within this component:
Special Education Service Agency (SESA)

The Annual budget for 2007, which preceded Gov. Palin was $8,265,300.

http://www.gov.state.ak.us/...

The Annual budget for 2008, enacted by Gov. Palin is $3,156,000.

http://www.gov.state.ak.us/...

The Annual budget for 2009, enacted by Gov. Palin is $3,156,000.

http://www.gov.state.ak.us/...

This is a cut in special needs services to children in Alaska of 5,109,300 , or 62%.



So, as the Alaska State Budget description states, "Without the supplementary services the child's needs would not be met by the local school district in most cases."

Did 62% of all of the special needs children in Alaska stop having needs once Gov. Palin took office?

Before we get so excited about Gov. Palin bring her "Reformer" agenda to Washington, perhaps we should get to know a little more about what exactly that means to our children, and the opportunities that she would "Reform".

Zingers and sarchasm aside, she has been lying to you so long you are willing to look for it

This is one heartless person.

 

[3 Seconds]

Despite all the thinking to the contrary, I believe this was a really really poor choice for VP for the GOP.

She will polarize people even further as all the facts come out.

I think this just about sealed the deal for President Obama.

 

[The Sponge]

http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.j...7439257&grpId=3659174697243814&nav=Groupspace

Another Palin lie: 62% funding cut for children with special need.
September 04, 2008 10:05 AM EDT

Palin promised the parents of special needs children to be on their side last night. What she did not tell them is that she cut funding for those parents by 62%. First they get on stage and talk the good talk. When it comes to walking the walk, suddenly, they have an ankle sprain.

She did the same thing with that "Bridge to nowhere." She told us she opposed. Then we found out she is for it before she became against it.

She is forgainst it. That was a torn ligament.

Now she is talking about special needs children.

For those of you who seem so enamored with Gov. Sarah Palin, it might be worth noting that she oversees the budget for the Department of Education and Early Development Special Schools in Alaska.

These funds provide supplementary educational services to students with severe disabling conditions and the Alaska Challenge Youth Academy. The resident school where the child would normally be placed does not have the resources to provide an adequate educational program. Without the supplementary services the child's needs would not be met by the local school district in most cases.


The following programs are included within this component:
Special Education Service Agency (SESA)

The Annual budget for 2007, which preceded Gov. Palin was $8,265,300.

http://www.gov.state.ak.us/...

The Annual budget for 2008, enacted by Gov. Palin is $3,156,000.

http://www.gov.state.ak.us/...

The Annual budget for 2009, enacted by Gov. Palin is $3,156,000.

http://www.gov.state.ak.us/...

This is a cut in special needs services to children in Alaska of 5,109,300 , or 62%.



So, as the Alaska State Budget description states, "Without the supplementary services the child's needs would not be met by the local school district in most cases."

Did 62% of all of the special needs children in Alaska stop having needs once Gov. Palin took office?

Before we get so excited about Gov. Palin bring her "Reformer" agenda to Washington, perhaps we should get to know a little more about what exactly that means to our children, and the opportunities that she would "Reform".

Zingers and sarchasm aside, she has been lying to you so long you are willing to look for it

This is one heartless person.

It would be really nice for one of these pieces of trash to throw out the truth once in awhile. But hey Stevie you won't find one of these neocon commenting on this like my thread about why she sat in on that pastor. When the truth isn't a big part of you life you are just as bad as these pigs who con you.

 

[StevieD]

It would be really nice for one of these pieces of trash to throw out the truth once in awhile. But hey Stevie you won't find one of these neocon commenting on this like my thread about why she sat in on that pastor. When the truth isn't a big part of you life you are just as bad as these pigs who con you.

I hear ya Spongey. I have been trying to get one of the Sarah Lovers answer about her lies, her pastor, and how sickening it is that they use a special needs child to try and get the special needs parents votes when her record is to cut the funding 62%. The more I read about her the sicker I get. But you are right so far not one of those Neocon loving pricks have come up with anything to defend her or to counter the articles calling her a liar.

 

[Jabberwocky]

yeah but do you know what OBama's middle name is? That seals it for me.

 

[The Sponge]

I hear ya Spongey. I have been trying to get one of the Sarah Lovers answer about her lies, her pastor, and how sickening it is that they use a special needs child to try and get the special needs parents votes when her record is to cut the funding 62%. The more I read about her the sicker I get. But you are right so far not one of those Neocon loving pricks have come up with anything to defend her or to counter the articles calling her a liar.

The funny thing is this has nothing to do with supporting Obama and everything to do with showing guys who must be slow i guess, that they are being lied to. Its painful to watch people supporting this mess but they have their supporters. They don't like that darky guy because of his lack of experience. Well the lack of experience is what the cowards hide behind but then that blew up with the appointment of this liar. I think they are back on the Resko kick since the pastor thing also blew up in their face even tho they are forgetting about the Keating five. :shrug: Last night i saw shades of the old McCain i use to like. Which McCain is running?

 

[THE KOD]

*** Waiting for the interview: There are now about 60 days until Election Day and just three weeks until the debates. And who knows whether we'll get the first Sarah Palin serious issue interview before then. This morning on JOE, McCain manager Rick Davis wouldn't commit to putting her out to media interviews unless they saw it as helping their campaign. This Sunday is interesting in that three of the four principles are doing sunday shows, the lone holdout: Palin.

:142smilie

All dressed up and no place to go
:mj07: :142smilie :mj07:

Countdown to the first presidential debate: 21 days
Countdown to the vice presidential debate: 27 days
Countdown to the second presidential debate 32 days
Countdown to the third presidential debate: 40 days
Countdown to Election Day 2008: 61 days

Countdown to Obama Inauguration Day 2009:
138 days

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

Wasn't sure I liked her as choice at 1st--but glad he took her now whether they win or lose.

One thing they have aleady done is set the PC Media/culture warriors back 10 years.

Main stream america has revolted against the out right lies on media/liberal blogs--and the photo chopped pics presented as real--

Lets see Scott--how many you been duped into believng and caught at so far--

Lets see there is the swimming suit--the pregnacy plot-the registered as independent-

You might want to persuse this link--to save further embarrassment-and they haven't added the pose with rifle to this yet--so you might want to be careful there to.

 

[pirate fan]

I'm with you Dogs! People can make anyone look good or bad. This thread is pretty slanted. But the 11 things you should know about Sarah, I like most of them. I would have to look into some of them before I was educated enough to say anything, unlike some other posts who just post with little idea what they are posting about. That isn't everyone, only a few who like the attention. As for the others, we just have different opinions and I can respect that.

 

[StevieD]

I'm with you Dogs! People can make anyone look good or bad. This thread is pretty slanted. But the 11 things you should know about Sarah, I like most of them. I would have to look into some of them before I was educated enough to say anything, unlike some other posts who just post with little idea what they are posting about. That isn't everyone, only a few who like the attention. As for the others, we just have different opinions and I can respect that.

You sound like a resonable guy. How do you feel about her saying that she is a friend of kids with Special needs when she cut the funding for Special Needs by 62%. Now, you may or may not like the fact that she cut the funding but how do you feel about how she mis-represents herself as an advocate for Special Needs when she is Cutting funding?