I just got back from kuwait. I'll will say that if our country decides to get in the regime changing business. We will have occupy until we know the people can set up a goverment that will be somewhat favorable with our intrests. The major problem we have in the middle east is the majority of people have been taught to hate the Americans at very young age. We can see this problem as we try to set a new goverment and restore some sort of order. It will always be hostile for westerners in this until the Arab people start teaching their children different views about westerners. This is my take on this subject.
Is the war over?
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Well in the two cases you mention it did work out well. In Germany of course if were not there then Germany as a whole might have been communist and i'm sure West Germans wouldn't want that plus in Japan, General MacArthur defered to the Emperor due to the fact he was considered sacred and that made it go much smoother and Japanese were in awe of the General. In todays case, it seems like we dropped the ball in not preparing our soldiers for being peacekeepers well enough. Hearing reports of heavy-handed tactics isn't good and don't forget the Shiites turned on the Israelies in Lebanon after welcoming them at first. Much more complicated now then those WW2 cases. Oh, polls doesn't mean anything to me either sorry.
Lmao about the regime changing business. We have been in that for a long time in case you didn't know it.
Lmao about the regime changing business. We have been in that for a long time in case you didn't know it.
Your so correct DVJ Nothing more frustrating than taking casualties from people you can't engage until its to late.
Stevie I don't understand your anology but it is quite similiar to the ones I get on mideast forum.
Seems some people can't see any difference between intentional actions and and accidental ones--and frankly there is no way to reason with those with that opinion.
Stevie I don't understand your anology but it is quite similiar to the ones I get on mideast forum.
Seems some people can't see any difference between intentional actions and and accidental ones--and frankly there is no way to reason with those with that opinion.
DTB, you made a statement about the number of deaths in Washington DC vs the number of soldiers killed in Iraq in the same time frame as if somehow they are even remotely related and then you say there is no way to reason with some people:shrug:
Maybe I am missing something here but how do the number of deaths in Washington, or anywhere else, relate to deaths of our soldiers in Iraq?
Maybe I am missing something here but how do the number of deaths in Washington, or anywhere else, relate to deaths of our soldiers in Iraq?
Unreal how many have died since you asked this question. More then one day. And we still look like we dont have a clue. Dam shame.
DJV ~ I know the numbers are stiffling. I just can't believe it. Every morning I hear "another American solider killed in combat". It sickens me. On a happy note ...
My nephew is home. He has been stationed over there since Dec. And in Dec he was only home for a two weeks to get married prior to that he was over there for 8 or 9 months (I believe) it is nice to have him home. Hopefully all of the soliders will be home.
God's Speed!
Miss Missy
My nephew is home. He has been stationed over there since Dec. And in Dec he was only home for a two weeks to get married prior to that he was over there for 8 or 9 months (I believe) it is nice to have him home. Hopefully all of the soliders will be home.
God's Speed!
Miss Missy
djv said:
would you say this to the soldiers as they return home?
i dont get the pessimism all the time for our armed forces...we kicked their ass....it has only been a couple months and we are trying to secure a whole country with lots of terrorists from the whole region inside...do you think it will be a cakewalk?
my only complaint is that it seems -- and that is only as it seems to me -- that we could use some more people over there
geez Eric Rudolph avoided us inside our own country for years and years...do you expect getting all the Iraq leaders to be easier to find in Iraq?
I dont get it...the Iraq war is a success and still is a success....we have lost people in the hundreds - NOT thousands which it could have been if we had waited and sat around and taken another 9-11 up our ass
Doc even you can't spin another 9/11 out of Iraq. Like you said they were nothing. Our only problem is we dont know what to do now. Seems it changes by the hour. We won something. Im not sure what. When you have soldiers dieing everyday. Mr Bush never should have opened his mouth on that aircraft carrier. But 9/11 coming from Iraq no way. Now Bushs friends the Saudies. I would keep a close eye on.
no we WON in Iraq and now everyone is bitching about one thing or another
no war has had a set plan on what to do afterwards...don't know where that notion has come from...Iraq is no different...hopefully they can figure out an exit strategy but we are still fighting
Bush SHOULD have opened his mouth because we kicked there ass and took control of most of the country...now we are cleaning up
we assessed Iraq as a threat....Hussein had to go because of his defiance and his involvement in terrorist groups AND because he wanted to control the market on oil....we took care of the problem...and YES there were possibilities of another if not worse 9-11 event due to Iraq's involvement.....they were talking tough just as Al Quaeda did 10 years ago....and we don't tolerate that sht anymore
no war has had a set plan on what to do afterwards...don't know where that notion has come from...Iraq is no different...hopefully they can figure out an exit strategy but we are still fighting
Bush SHOULD have opened his mouth because we kicked there ass and took control of most of the country...now we are cleaning up
we assessed Iraq as a threat....Hussein had to go because of his defiance and his involvement in terrorist groups AND because he wanted to control the market on oil....we took care of the problem...and YES there were possibilities of another if not worse 9-11 event due to Iraq's involvement.....they were talking tough just as Al Quaeda did 10 years ago....and we don't tolerate that sht anymore
Its a weird world.
I remember during the war, the left, was calling our military baby killers. There was teacher telling students that same thing,don't know what ever happened to the teacher. Saw several articles where military wives were taunted in public and kept mostly to themselves.
Now these same SOB'S are whining about a death a day to our military personel.
Is undeniable that some factions just like to whine period. What ever is happening at that time they are against.--and as in most cases from both sides of the fence, the ploy is condeming those in power,which ever it may be,and offering no solutions.
Many of the mass graves they are finding is result of last war here when Swartzkoff and Bush Sr went back on promise and left them to be slaughtered.
I hope Jr finishes the job this time which I believe he will. If not who on earth would trust us again.
Its an unpoplular job but I am glad someone is taking tha task to heart,because breaking promises and looking the other way sure has not worked in the past 10 years.
I remember during the war, the left, was calling our military baby killers. There was teacher telling students that same thing,don't know what ever happened to the teacher. Saw several articles where military wives were taunted in public and kept mostly to themselves.
Now these same SOB'S are whining about a death a day to our military personel.
Is undeniable that some factions just like to whine period. What ever is happening at that time they are against.--and as in most cases from both sides of the fence, the ploy is condeming those in power,which ever it may be,and offering no solutions.
Many of the mass graves they are finding is result of last war here when Swartzkoff and Bush Sr went back on promise and left them to be slaughtered.
I hope Jr finishes the job this time which I believe he will. If not who on earth would trust us again.
Its an unpoplular job but I am glad someone is taking tha task to heart,because breaking promises and looking the other way sure has not worked in the past 10 years.
i like how DMC is now running a commercial giving us Bush's State of the Union address with the quote "We have..... intelligence reports telling us that Iraq is purchasing Uranium from Africa"
Simultaneously, they have words coming across the screen saying that Bush misled us with this quote
All the while the DMC has edited out the word "British" before intelligence
LMAO Bush did nothing but quote British intelligence reports while the DMC misleads us INTENTIONALLY by editing out a word which is crucial to the meaning of the sentence (all the while complaining about how Bush misled us)
what a bunch of fools
Simultaneously, they have words coming across the screen saying that Bush misled us with this quote
All the while the DMC has edited out the word "British" before intelligence
LMAO Bush did nothing but quote British intelligence reports while the DMC misleads us INTENTIONALLY by editing out a word which is crucial to the meaning of the sentence (all the while complaining about how Bush misled us)
what a bunch of fools
Doc our own CIA said last October those facts were very ?????. But they left it in the speech anyway. You are right we won a war. Were cleaning up and loseing as many men almost as many as the war. We did our job. Let the UN clean the mess up. Not our job. We went there for WMD. We can look for them with less then 160000 soldiers. Remember we did not go there to occupy. Those are Bushs owns words. And you will not here in his speech anything about freeing the people. Seems to me many wish we would leave.
The title of the commercial is "Truth." The commercial seeks to put across the point that President Bush lied to the American people in his State of the Union speech. Remember, though, that a lie that is a statement known by the person making that statement to be untrue at the time the statement was made.
The "lie," of course, is supposed to be those now-famous 16 words. You probably have those words memorized, but here they are for those of you with short attention spans:
"The British Government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa."
That statement is true. It is not a lie. The British government is standing by its intelligence assessment to this very day. So, the Democrats want to take a statement which has been verified as true, and somehow turn it into a lie in their TV commercial. Just how do you go about that? Easy, you just eliminate the first five words. On the Democrats television commercial you will see Bush simply say "Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa."
This is blatantly dishonest. The Democrats are showing you that they will lie in order to gain some political advantage -- in this case, raising funds. But where is the media outrage? I can't watch every television news show, but on those that I have watched only one news program has pointed out that the Demcorats eliminated five words from this quote to completely change its meaning. That news channel was, of course, Fox News. Liberals will tell you that by showing what the Demcorats did with this quote Fox News Channel is proving its right-wing bias.
Whether you recognize it or not, America faces perilous times right now. We have the war against terrorism in the Middle East, and North Korea on the other side of the globe. The fact is, the American military does not have the manpower to face both threats. This may well lead to a form of capitulation in North Korea. (Thanks, Jimmy Carter!) While we face these difficult and dangerous times the leftist Democrats are working to use lies, half-truths and deceit to undermine the reputation and the very authority of George Bush. The Democrats are showing that not even the security of the United States ranks above their obsession over lost power. These people are dangerous. They will destroy America to regain political power. If you support them through money or votes you may well be part of the destruction of everything our founding fathers fought to create.
The "lie," of course, is supposed to be those now-famous 16 words. You probably have those words memorized, but here they are for those of you with short attention spans:
"The British Government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa."
That statement is true. It is not a lie. The British government is standing by its intelligence assessment to this very day. So, the Democrats want to take a statement which has been verified as true, and somehow turn it into a lie in their TV commercial. Just how do you go about that? Easy, you just eliminate the first five words. On the Democrats television commercial you will see Bush simply say "Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa."
This is blatantly dishonest. The Democrats are showing you that they will lie in order to gain some political advantage -- in this case, raising funds. But where is the media outrage? I can't watch every television news show, but on those that I have watched only one news program has pointed out that the Demcorats eliminated five words from this quote to completely change its meaning. That news channel was, of course, Fox News. Liberals will tell you that by showing what the Demcorats did with this quote Fox News Channel is proving its right-wing bias.
Whether you recognize it or not, America faces perilous times right now. We have the war against terrorism in the Middle East, and North Korea on the other side of the globe. The fact is, the American military does not have the manpower to face both threats. This may well lead to a form of capitulation in North Korea. (Thanks, Jimmy Carter!) While we face these difficult and dangerous times the leftist Democrats are working to use lies, half-truths and deceit to undermine the reputation and the very authority of George Bush. The Democrats are showing that not even the security of the United States ranks above their obsession over lost power. These people are dangerous. They will destroy America to regain political power. If you support them through money or votes you may well be part of the destruction of everything our founding fathers fought to create.
The inside scoop on Irag from one of our troopers
The inside scoop on Irag from one of our troopers
Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2003, 11:09:09 GMT
Hey Guys, sorry it's been so long since I've sent anything but a quick note to you individually. However things
have been pretty hectic since the end of hostilities and the start of the real war. Despite what the aholes in
the press like to say over and over:
1) We did expect some armed resistance from the Ba'ath Party and Feydaheen;
2) It isn't any worse than expected;
3) Things are getting better each day, and
4) The morale of the troops is A-1, except for the normal complaining and griping.
My brief love affair with the press, especially the guys who had the cajones to be embedded with the troops
during the fighting, is probably over, especially since we are back being criticized by the same Roland Headly
types that used to hang around the Palestine Hotel drinking Baghdad Bob's whiskey and parroting his
ridiculous B.S.
I'm in Baghdad now, since SpOpComm 5 relocated here from Qatar. It looks, sounds and smells about the
same but at least you can get Maker's Mark at the local OC. We came up in mid-June to help set up operation Scorpion and Sidewinder. It represents a major (and long overdue) shift in tactics. Instead of being sitting ducks for the ragheads we now are going after the worthless pieces of fecal matter.
The only reason the GIs are pissed (not demoralized) is that they cannot touch, must less waste, those taunting bags of gas that scream in their faces and riot on cue when they spot a camera man from ABC, BBC, CBS, CNN or NBC. If they did, then they know the next nightly news will be about how chaotic things are and how much the Iraqi people hate us.
Some do. But the vast majority don't and more and more see that the GIs don't start anything, are by-and-large friendly, and very compassionate, especially to kids and old people. I saw a bunch of 19 year-olds from the 82nd Airborne not return fire coming from a mosque until they got a group of elderly civilians out of harm's way. So did the Iraqis.
A bunch of bad guys used a group of women and children as human shields. The GIs surrounded them and
negotiated their surrender fifteen hours later and when they discovered a three year-old girl had been injured by the big tough guys throwing her down a flight of stairs, the GIs called in a MedVac helicopter to take her and her mother to the nearest field hospital. The Iraqis watched it all, and there hasn't been a problem in that neighborhood since. How many such stories, and there are hundreds of them, ever get reported in the fair and balanced press? You know, nada.
The civilians who have figured it out faster than anyone are the local teenagers. They watch the GIs and try to talk to them and ask questions about America and Now wear wrap-around sunglasses, GAP T-shirts, Dockers (or even better Levis with the red tags) and Nikes (or Egyptian knock-offs, but with the "swoosh") and love to listen to AFN when the GIs play it on their radios.
They participate less and less in the demonstrations and help keep us informed when a wannabe bad-ass
shows up in the neighborhood.
The younger kids are going back to school again, don't have to listen to some mullah rant about the Koran ten
hours a day, and they get a hot meal.
They see the same GIs who man the corner checkpoint, helping clear the playground, install new swingsets and create soccer fields. I watched a bunch of kids playing baseball in one playground, under the supervision of a couple of GIs from Oklahoma. They weren't very good but were having fun, probably more than most Little Leaguers.
The place is still a mess but most of it has been for years. But the Hospitals are open and are in the process of being brought into the 21st Century. The MOs and visiting surgeons from home are teaching their docs new techniques and One American pharmaceutical company (you know, the kind that all the hippies like to scream about as greedy) donated enough medicine to stock 45 hospital pharmacies for a year.
Safe water is more available. Electricity has been restored to pre-war levels but saboteurs keep cutting the
lines. And The old Ba'ath big shots are upset because they can't get fuel for their private generators. One
actually complained to General McKeirnan, who told him it was a rough world.
The MPs are screening the 80,000 Iraqi police force and rehabbing the ones that weren't goons, shake-down
artists or torturers like they did in East Berlin, Kosovo and Afghanistan.
There are dual patrols of Iraqi cops and U.S./U.K./Polish MPs now in most of the larger cities. Basra has 3.5 million inhabitants. Mosul is a city of 2 million. Kirkuk has 1 million. How many and hundreds of other small towns have not had riots or shootings? The vast majority.
I heard one doofus on MSNBC the other night talk about how "nearly 60" GIs have been killed since 01 May.
The truth is that 21 GIs have been killed in combat, mostly from ambush, from 01 May through 30 June.
Another 29 have been killed by accidents or other causes (two drowned while swimming in the Tigris).
The MSNBC idiot is the same jerk who reported on the air that "dozens of GIs" were badly burned when two
RPGs hit a truck belonging to an Engineer Battalion that was parked by a construction site. The truck was hit
and burned, three GIs received minor injuries (including the driver who burnt his hand) and three warriors of
Allah were promptly sent to enjoy their 72 slave girls in Paradise. Hell of a way to get a woman.
A mosque in that s**thole Fallujah blew up this morning while the local imam, a creep named Fahlil (who was one of the biggest local loudmouths that frequently appeared on CNN) was helping a Syrian Hamas member teach eight teenagers how to make belt bombs. Right away the local Feyhadeen propaganda group started wailing that the Americans hit it with a TOW missile (If they had there wouldn't have been any mosque left!) and the usual suspects took to the streets for CNN and BBC. One fool was dragging around a piece of tin with blood on it, claiming it was part of the missile.
The cameras rolled and the idiot started repeating his story, then one of my guys asked him in Arabic where he had left the rag he usually wore around his face that made him look like a girl. He was a local leader of the Feyhadeen. We took the clown in custody and were asked rather indignantly by the twit from BBC if we were trying to shut up "the poor man who had seen his mosque and friends blown up." I told the airy-fairy who the
raghead was and if he knew Arabic (which he obviously didn't) he'd know he was a Palestinian. I suggested we take him down to the local jail and we'd lock him and his cameraman in a cell with the "poor man" and they could interview him until we took him to headquarters. They declined the invitation. Guess what played on the Bulls**t Broadcasting System that evening? Did the Americans blow up a mosque? See the poor man who is
still in a state of shock over losing his mosque and relatives? Yep. Our friend the Palestinian.
Our search and destroy missions are largely at night, free of reporters and generally terrifying to those brave
warriors of Allah.
The only thing that frightens them more is hearing the word "Gitmo". The word is out that a trip to Guantanimo Bay is not a Caribbean vacation and they usually start squealing like the little mice they are, when an interrogator mentions "Gitmo".
No wonder the International Red Cross, the National Council of Churches and the French keep protesting about the place. They know it has proven to be very effective in keeping several hundred real fanatical psychopaths in check and very frankly would rather see them cut loose to go kill some more GIs or innocent Americans, just to make W. look bad.
Our first objective is to get the die-hards off the street (or make them too scared to come out in them) and destroy their caches of weapons (we have collected more than 227,000 AK-47s and that is only the tip of the iceburg; Curly bought nearly a million of them from our pal Vladimir), then cut off their money supply, mostly from Syria and Lebanon. We must continue to get public services up and running, so the local families can get water, sewage and garbage service; electricity, public transportation; oil fields and refineries working and a dinar that won't halve in value every month.
It's going to be a long haul (remember it took 10-15 years in Japan and West Germany) but if we don't stick with it, nobody else will, and we'll have some other looney running the place again.
Armageddon, here we come. Remember, it's located on the outskirts of Jerusalem.
Enough of that cheery speculation. The good news is that General Schoonmaker is going to appointed ChiefArmy and the old man is coming to Tampa to run the SpOps desk at CentComm. He's tops and will be getting his second star.
To me it means that SpOps will be more predominant in future operations and after 18 years as a GB maybe I'll have a shot at a bird-level combat command.
The old man asked me to come to MacDill and be his ACS but I told him after I spent four months changing the diapers of the media types, I wanted to go back to action. Hence, my current gig.
As the movie quoted old General Patton, "God help me, I love it." I do. Nothing more satisfying than working
with the BEST damn soldiers in the world, flushing real human poop down the drain and giving some folks a
chance at trying freedom for a change.
They may learn to like it and then my great-great-grandson won't have to worry about some maniac trying to
destroy the planet.
Now about that Maker's Mark.
God Bless America
Mark.
The inside scoop on Irag from one of our troopers
Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2003, 11:09:09 GMT
Hey Guys, sorry it's been so long since I've sent anything but a quick note to you individually. However things
have been pretty hectic since the end of hostilities and the start of the real war. Despite what the aholes in
the press like to say over and over:
1) We did expect some armed resistance from the Ba'ath Party and Feydaheen;
2) It isn't any worse than expected;
3) Things are getting better each day, and
4) The morale of the troops is A-1, except for the normal complaining and griping.
My brief love affair with the press, especially the guys who had the cajones to be embedded with the troops
during the fighting, is probably over, especially since we are back being criticized by the same Roland Headly
types that used to hang around the Palestine Hotel drinking Baghdad Bob's whiskey and parroting his
ridiculous B.S.
I'm in Baghdad now, since SpOpComm 5 relocated here from Qatar. It looks, sounds and smells about the
same but at least you can get Maker's Mark at the local OC. We came up in mid-June to help set up operation Scorpion and Sidewinder. It represents a major (and long overdue) shift in tactics. Instead of being sitting ducks for the ragheads we now are going after the worthless pieces of fecal matter.
The only reason the GIs are pissed (not demoralized) is that they cannot touch, must less waste, those taunting bags of gas that scream in their faces and riot on cue when they spot a camera man from ABC, BBC, CBS, CNN or NBC. If they did, then they know the next nightly news will be about how chaotic things are and how much the Iraqi people hate us.
Some do. But the vast majority don't and more and more see that the GIs don't start anything, are by-and-large friendly, and very compassionate, especially to kids and old people. I saw a bunch of 19 year-olds from the 82nd Airborne not return fire coming from a mosque until they got a group of elderly civilians out of harm's way. So did the Iraqis.
A bunch of bad guys used a group of women and children as human shields. The GIs surrounded them and
negotiated their surrender fifteen hours later and when they discovered a three year-old girl had been injured by the big tough guys throwing her down a flight of stairs, the GIs called in a MedVac helicopter to take her and her mother to the nearest field hospital. The Iraqis watched it all, and there hasn't been a problem in that neighborhood since. How many such stories, and there are hundreds of them, ever get reported in the fair and balanced press? You know, nada.
The civilians who have figured it out faster than anyone are the local teenagers. They watch the GIs and try to talk to them and ask questions about America and Now wear wrap-around sunglasses, GAP T-shirts, Dockers (or even better Levis with the red tags) and Nikes (or Egyptian knock-offs, but with the "swoosh") and love to listen to AFN when the GIs play it on their radios.
They participate less and less in the demonstrations and help keep us informed when a wannabe bad-ass
shows up in the neighborhood.
The younger kids are going back to school again, don't have to listen to some mullah rant about the Koran ten
hours a day, and they get a hot meal.
They see the same GIs who man the corner checkpoint, helping clear the playground, install new swingsets and create soccer fields. I watched a bunch of kids playing baseball in one playground, under the supervision of a couple of GIs from Oklahoma. They weren't very good but were having fun, probably more than most Little Leaguers.
The place is still a mess but most of it has been for years. But the Hospitals are open and are in the process of being brought into the 21st Century. The MOs and visiting surgeons from home are teaching their docs new techniques and One American pharmaceutical company (you know, the kind that all the hippies like to scream about as greedy) donated enough medicine to stock 45 hospital pharmacies for a year.
Safe water is more available. Electricity has been restored to pre-war levels but saboteurs keep cutting the
lines. And The old Ba'ath big shots are upset because they can't get fuel for their private generators. One
actually complained to General McKeirnan, who told him it was a rough world.
The MPs are screening the 80,000 Iraqi police force and rehabbing the ones that weren't goons, shake-down
artists or torturers like they did in East Berlin, Kosovo and Afghanistan.
There are dual patrols of Iraqi cops and U.S./U.K./Polish MPs now in most of the larger cities. Basra has 3.5 million inhabitants. Mosul is a city of 2 million. Kirkuk has 1 million. How many and hundreds of other small towns have not had riots or shootings? The vast majority.
I heard one doofus on MSNBC the other night talk about how "nearly 60" GIs have been killed since 01 May.
The truth is that 21 GIs have been killed in combat, mostly from ambush, from 01 May through 30 June.
Another 29 have been killed by accidents or other causes (two drowned while swimming in the Tigris).
The MSNBC idiot is the same jerk who reported on the air that "dozens of GIs" were badly burned when two
RPGs hit a truck belonging to an Engineer Battalion that was parked by a construction site. The truck was hit
and burned, three GIs received minor injuries (including the driver who burnt his hand) and three warriors of
Allah were promptly sent to enjoy their 72 slave girls in Paradise. Hell of a way to get a woman.
A mosque in that s**thole Fallujah blew up this morning while the local imam, a creep named Fahlil (who was one of the biggest local loudmouths that frequently appeared on CNN) was helping a Syrian Hamas member teach eight teenagers how to make belt bombs. Right away the local Feyhadeen propaganda group started wailing that the Americans hit it with a TOW missile (If they had there wouldn't have been any mosque left!) and the usual suspects took to the streets for CNN and BBC. One fool was dragging around a piece of tin with blood on it, claiming it was part of the missile.
The cameras rolled and the idiot started repeating his story, then one of my guys asked him in Arabic where he had left the rag he usually wore around his face that made him look like a girl. He was a local leader of the Feyhadeen. We took the clown in custody and were asked rather indignantly by the twit from BBC if we were trying to shut up "the poor man who had seen his mosque and friends blown up." I told the airy-fairy who the
raghead was and if he knew Arabic (which he obviously didn't) he'd know he was a Palestinian. I suggested we take him down to the local jail and we'd lock him and his cameraman in a cell with the "poor man" and they could interview him until we took him to headquarters. They declined the invitation. Guess what played on the Bulls**t Broadcasting System that evening? Did the Americans blow up a mosque? See the poor man who is
still in a state of shock over losing his mosque and relatives? Yep. Our friend the Palestinian.
Our search and destroy missions are largely at night, free of reporters and generally terrifying to those brave
warriors of Allah.
The only thing that frightens them more is hearing the word "Gitmo". The word is out that a trip to Guantanimo Bay is not a Caribbean vacation and they usually start squealing like the little mice they are, when an interrogator mentions "Gitmo".
No wonder the International Red Cross, the National Council of Churches and the French keep protesting about the place. They know it has proven to be very effective in keeping several hundred real fanatical psychopaths in check and very frankly would rather see them cut loose to go kill some more GIs or innocent Americans, just to make W. look bad.
Our first objective is to get the die-hards off the street (or make them too scared to come out in them) and destroy their caches of weapons (we have collected more than 227,000 AK-47s and that is only the tip of the iceburg; Curly bought nearly a million of them from our pal Vladimir), then cut off their money supply, mostly from Syria and Lebanon. We must continue to get public services up and running, so the local families can get water, sewage and garbage service; electricity, public transportation; oil fields and refineries working and a dinar that won't halve in value every month.
It's going to be a long haul (remember it took 10-15 years in Japan and West Germany) but if we don't stick with it, nobody else will, and we'll have some other looney running the place again.
Armageddon, here we come. Remember, it's located on the outskirts of Jerusalem.
Enough of that cheery speculation. The good news is that General Schoonmaker is going to appointed ChiefArmy and the old man is coming to Tampa to run the SpOps desk at CentComm. He's tops and will be getting his second star.
To me it means that SpOps will be more predominant in future operations and after 18 years as a GB maybe I'll have a shot at a bird-level combat command.
The old man asked me to come to MacDill and be his ACS but I told him after I spent four months changing the diapers of the media types, I wanted to go back to action. Hence, my current gig.
As the movie quoted old General Patton, "God help me, I love it." I do. Nothing more satisfying than working
with the BEST damn soldiers in the world, flushing real human poop down the drain and giving some folks a
chance at trying freedom for a change.
They may learn to like it and then my great-great-grandson won't have to worry about some maniac trying to
destroy the planet.
Now about that Maker's Mark.
God Bless America
Mark.
Trying to scare the piss out of the Americam people with selected words is not telling the whole story. Call it what you wish. Hell have folks thinking a suite case dirty bomb could be the case at any time was BS. Look Saddam was bad. Are we happy he is gone. Yes. But was he on his way to bomb us No. All Bush had to say was. Were going to free the people and secure the oil. But that does not sound scarey enough. The American people would have said. Well we could have done that anytime in last 20 years.
If we were so concerned about the Iraq people. Why did we not go and stop the gassing of them back in 1988 and 89 when he killed Kurds by the thousands. Where were we then. Now we here everyday we had to stop this. 14/15 years later it's important.
If we were so concerned about the Iraq people. Why did we not go and stop the gassing of them back in 1988 and 89 when he killed Kurds by the thousands. Where were we then. Now we here everyday we had to stop this. 14/15 years later it's important.
To answer your question DJV of where were we when Saddam gassed the Kurds. I don't remember where I was but Rumsfeld was in Iraq meeting with Saddam at on the very day the Kurds were bombed. Giving his ok to do it. Sent Ronnie Reagan a splendid report on his boy Saddam.
As for how dangerous Saddam was to the United States the CIA seemed to feel he was less dangerous when running a crippled Iraq then he would be wounded.
As for how dangerous Saddam was to the United States the CIA seemed to feel he was less dangerous when running a crippled Iraq then he would be wounded.
Amazing "they" can call anything a lie even by leaving out key words of context. After all aren't these the same people that said its cool to shake your finger at the U.S. citizens and blatantly lie and then swear about it under oath:lol: You people are a joke.
Must be a very sad day for a lot of you with the demise of Husseins boys.Gonna have to find something else to whine about.
Lets see,the dows up 20% since start of war,Prices of july contracts closed in 29 a barrel today,1st time in I can't remember when. I GOT IT. The deficeit--harp and whine about it a while as I believe that to be a legitimate complaint---and don't get too down in the dumps bout saddams sons---Saddam and Laden are still at large---for now.
Must be a very sad day for a lot of you with the demise of Husseins boys.Gonna have to find something else to whine about.
Lets see,the dows up 20% since start of war,Prices of july contracts closed in 29 a barrel today,1st time in I can't remember when. I GOT IT. The deficeit--harp and whine about it a while as I believe that to be a legitimate complaint---and don't get too down in the dumps bout saddams sons---Saddam and Laden are still at large---for now.
DTB Im glad we got them. If it's them. We have had to many false reports. As for war with Iraq. Bush did not need to hype it. Tell it as it was. Let the Americans have chance at no BS. We did not have to rush in there. He was there for the picking any time. And yes I want Bin and Saddam. His sons dont do much for me. Hell I rather we nail about 3/4 of those Saudi family members that play with the purse strings. At least we know they had some thing to do with 9/11. And all these folks here that think a nuke war with Korea just has to get done. I believe folks like you and I that seen some chit we have. Should at least say are you all going mad.
DTB the difference is when Clinton lied nobody died. And why do you insist on thinking that everybody who is against a Bush policy is somehow in love with Clinton. It is the great Republican arguement, you can't defend Bush on merits alone so you always change the subject and say Ya, well Clinton lied too! Who cares? We are talking about Bush and his alleged lies to the American people.
Oh and another thing I was against going into Iraq but once there I of course hope we win. I am glad those two SOB's are gone. I am an American first and I hope America wins every battle it enters whether I am for it or against it. So no, today is not a sad day. Today is a happy day. But it doesn't change the fact that I still think it was wrong to go in there. Peace.
Oh and another thing I was against going into Iraq but once there I of course hope we win. I am glad those two SOB's are gone. I am an American first and I hope America wins every battle it enters whether I am for it or against it. So no, today is not a sad day. Today is a happy day. But it doesn't change the fact that I still think it was wrong to go in there. Peace.
don't see how bush lied or scared people...read the context of his speech...Britain to this day stands by its intelligence reports....Clinton on Larry King tonight said how when he left office much of Iraq's weapons programs and materials were unaccounted for...
don't see how the left spins this like we were deceived or that Bush lied...
who cares now anyway??? we won and eliminated a threat....lets celebrate the victory and concentrate on how to clean up the rest of the resistence and show the troops a united front instead of all these groundless accusations and twisted words which is about the most dishonest thing i have ever seen in AMerican polititcs....blantantly manipulating words in a President's speech...granted, most voters in the Dem. party are uneducated bottom feeders, but hey...most people still have a little discernment i would think
don't see how the left spins this like we were deceived or that Bush lied...
who cares now anyway??? we won and eliminated a threat....lets celebrate the victory and concentrate on how to clean up the rest of the resistence and show the troops a united front instead of all these groundless accusations and twisted words which is about the most dishonest thing i have ever seen in AMerican polititcs....blantantly manipulating words in a President's speech...granted, most voters in the Dem. party are uneducated bottom feeders, but hey...most people still have a little discernment i would think
