Laura Bush It's OK?

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Yeh KOD , he's hot
 

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scott....what really annoys me is that

1)i never addressed you personally until after you addressed me personally... twice....calling me rat bastid(that`s cool)....and stupid....totally ignoring the guys that were actually denegrating her....i figured you had some beef with me....and used this to get the ball rolling....

2)even after i explained that the insult to laura bush was a fabrication of your imagination(much like your intelligence,in this thread anyway),you insisted on being a hardhead on taking it further.....

this stuff is useless...pointless...and i`m sure it annoys jack...

and i`m sure we both have better things to do with our time...

and i hope you realize that nimrods like f. lee haskell,kosar and spongy were just egging you on like schoolyard instigators....

no problem here....i don`t hold internet grudges....

you can have the last word...
 

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gw

I knew you were being sarcastic about calling her a bitch , but it rubbed me the wrong way , and I really do respect Laura Bush.

Its funny how the Haskells of the world pick up on things and want to stoke the fire. I do get a laugh out of the politcal forum alot though.

I actaully found out alot about you in this thread.
Your tendancies and some of your retorts were expected but others were not.

I really dont think your a rat bastid no more than you think Laura B is a bitch.

I don't have much better to do. Getting ready to go to a christmas party downtown.

Thanks for giving me the last word. I appreciate it.

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Laura Bush Hits Media 'Drum Beat' on Iraq

By E&P Staff

Published: December 14, 2006 3:40 PM ET

NEW YORK Appearing on MSNBC this morning with Norah O?Donnell, Laura Bush blamed the media, when asked why only 21% of Americans, in a recent NBC poll, said they approved of her husband's Iraq policy.

?I do know that there are a lot of good things that are happening [in Iraq] that aren?t covered," she said. "And I think that the drum beat in the country from the media, from the only way people know what is happening unless they happen to have a loved one deployed there, is discouraging....

"There are also good things going on that people don't have a chance to see....Schools that are being built. There are parts of country that are rebuilding....So I'd like to see the media give a more balanced view of it."

She added that she hopes for ?more balanced coverage by the media? in the future. ?I understand why the polls are like that, because of the coverage we see every single day in Iraq. It's not encouraging coverage to be sure.?

She said that she knows Americans "support the troops" and she hopes the troops keep that in mind when they see the media coverage.

The recently released Iraq Study Group report declared, "there is significant underreporting of the violence in Iraq. The standard for recording attacks acts as a filter to keep events out of reports and databases?For example, on one day in July 2006 there were 93 attacks or significant acts of violence reported. Yet a careful review of the reports for that single day brought to light 1,100 acts of violence. Good policy is difficult to make when information is systematically collected in a way that minimizes its discrepancy with policy goals."
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Hey djv

whats so wrong about what she said anyways ?:shrug:
 

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To recap:

For some unknown reason, in this thread Gardenweasel attacked Laura Bush. He called her or insinuated that she was:

1) bisexual;
2) gay;
3) a murderer;
4) a biatch;
5) in love with Ellen Degeneris; and
6) ugly, sinful, Lynn Cheney, and otherwise not fit to inhabit the earth.

The rest of us, even if we disagree with her husband, have come to her defense. Lets let allow Gardenweasel this one faux pas and issue a strong warning not to attack Mrs. Bush again or risk banishment.

I for one, forgive you GW. It also fun to learn a button.

Eddie
 

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and issue a strong warning not to attack Mrs. Bush again or risk banishment.

I for one, forgive you GW. It also fun to learn a button.

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eddie

your killing me :142smilie

PS - Merry Christmas and Happy New Year !

PSS Hope we can get out of Iraq before next Christmas or at least steal most of their oil.
 

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Hi Scott:

I've changed my mind. I'm always on the side of the underdog. Since George is getting hammered in the poles, I've become a George Bush backer.

I believe Mrs. Bush. I think we are killing these people to help them win freedom and democracy. Sacrifices have to be made in the name of freedom. The world is a safer place now.

I think firing Rumsfeld was a mistake and actually hope he is on the ticket in 08. I'd like to see a Rumsfeld/Duke ticket myself. We may want to consider nuking the whole region including those sons of biatchs Saudis.

Eddie
 

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I knew you were being sarcastic about calling her a bitch , but it rubbed me the wrong way , and I really do respect Laura Bush.

Its funny how the Haskells of the world pick up on things and want to stoke the fire. I do get a laugh out of the politcal forum alot though.

I actaully found out alot about you in this thread.
Your tendancies and some of your retorts were expected but others were not.

I really dont think your a rat bastid no more than you think Laura B is a bitch.

I don't have much better to do. Getting ready to go to a christmas party downtown.

Thanks for giving me the last word. I appreciate it.

You David Duke !

Good job checking the weasel, Scotty. He gets really carried away sometimes. He is quite full of himself and sometimes it takes a gentleman such as yourself to expose this.

Good day.
 

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kosar and f.lee haskell again showing that their brain`s,much like don knotts` hands(in full barney fife mode)are lethal weapons....:grins:
 
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Wow talk about this subject going off base. Point is easy one blame media don't blame my hubby. Same thing they say over and over. Are Dick and Jane, Bush 43 and Rice only ones that know it's not. Sure they built and opened some new schools. Now if some one would show up before they blow them up it would be nice. The rest of America, less about 20% understand it's chit over there. Not a place to take your children to the park. Laura knows but can't say truth. You want her to get kicked out of bed. Come to think of it might be wise for her to let that happen.
 

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Gee Laura and GW both think that everything is cheery in Iraq but for some reason the dang media and the Iraq Study Group, The new Secretary of Defense, and just about every thinking person on the planet disagree with them do to some wide spread conspiracy to shrink the profits oh Halliburten.
Even though it is quite nauseating to see two grown men like Scott and GW kiss and caress each other on a public forum like this, it is more disturbing to see them denigrate the first lady as they have.
:nono:
 

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I think firing Rumsfeld was a mistake and actually hope he is on the ticket in 08. I'd like to see a Rumsfeld/Duke ticket myself. We may want to consider nuking the whole region including those sons of biatchs Saudis.

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what a mess.

Not sure if there is a way out of this. I think George W will be content to let the next President fix things.
 

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Gee Laura and GW both think that everything is cheery in Iraq but for some reason the dang media and the Iraq Study Group, The new Secretary of Defense, and just about every thinking person on the planet disagree with them do to some wide spread conspiracy to shrink the profits oh Halliburten.
Even though it is quite nauseating to see two grown men like Scott and GW kiss and caress each other on a public forum like this, it is more disturbing to see them denigrate the first lady as they have.
:nono:

c`mon stevie....the isg has it pegged...we all know that anytime you have the syrians and the iranians gushing over the plan,and the iraqi`s themselves give it a thimbs down,well,you know you`re on the right path(as usual)....

hell, the holidays are coming up, and everyone's trying to get their xmas shopping done, plus there's office parties, football, etc.....we really don't have time for this war stuff, so if they could maybe finish it up in the next week or two..:142squint
 
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lets retrace our steps,shall we?....

djv starts the thread by disparaging laura bush regarding her comments on iraq....

stevie calls her a stepford wife....

i,tongue planted firmly in cheek.....i,who basically defends bush from all the name calling and childish insults.....mock djv and stevie with an over the top comment about laura bush....hoping that everyone is smart enough to get that "the neocon" is poking fun at those that are disparaging laura bush.....showing how petty it is to take shots at one of the most non-political first ladies that has ever come down the pike....

and what do i get?.....

some yo yo`s that show that the finer points of being the village idiot is not a dying art....

stupid incarnate...

I still don't understand why your'e so critical of the first lady. Just because you live in a bomb shelter is no reason to embrace to David Duke and call Laura such bad things. Sheeesh.
 

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Scott:

Fix what? All is well. Now if you'll excuss me, I've got to meet Kosar over at Floyds. Need a haircut before going to the picture show with Thelma Lou.

Eddie
 

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gardenweasel:"kosar and f.lee haskell again showing that their brain`s,much like don knotts` hands(in full barney fife mode)are lethal weapons....





I still don't understand why your'e so critical of the first lady. Just because you live in a bomb shelter is no reason to embrace to David Duke and call Laura such bad things. Sheeesh.


ange???...barn????who let otis out again?
 

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To bad Laura didn't use a few examples--
From Getting The News From The Enemy,
--"UPDATE IV"
http://www.floppingaces.net/2006/11/30/getting-the-news-from-the-enem-4/

Classification: UNCLASSIFIED

Curt:

From CPATT PAO:

BG Abdul-Kareem, the Ministry of Interior Spokesman, went on the record today stating that Capt. Jamil Hussein is not a police officer. He explained the coordinations among MOI, the Ministry of Health and the

Ministry of Defense in attempting to track down these bodies and their joint conclusion was that this was unsubstantiated rumor.

He went on to name several other false sources that have been used recently and appealed to the media to document their news before reporting. He went into some detail about the impact of the press carrying propaganda for the enemies of Iraq and thanked ?the friends? who have brought this to their attention.

AP did attend the press conference.

Vr,
LT Dean

Michael B. Dean
Lieutenant, U.S. Navy
MNC-I Joint Operations Center
Public Affairs Officer
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Ministry of Interior Weekly Press Conference Thursday, November 30, 2006

By Brig. Gen. Abdul Kareem Khalaf Al-Kenani
Ministry of Interior spokesman

Press conference synopsis:

1. Media, especially satellite news channels, must adhere to responsible practices:

a. MOI is monitoring coverage, and will insist on corrections to false reports.

b. Unnamed sources should not be used. Two recently named sources do not work for MOI. Contact MOI PAO for official information.

c. Rumors are rampant, and media should be careful to check with official sources about information to avoid spreading false rumors.

2. MOI succeeded in a number of operations against terrorists in Baghdad.

a. The Baghdad Sniper was apprehended, and information gained from
him led to the arrest of 30 others in his organization.

b. Two unauthorized ?courts? that had issued death fatwas were broken up.

c. A kidnapping cell, including one that raped a young girl, was arrested.

Statement:

This press conference will cover MOI operations from Nov. 23 to 29, 2006.

Before we start the weekly briefing, I have some points to highlight and to remind the brothers that work in the media, especially the Satellite television Channels. We meant by this note to stress the ministry of interior?s intention that we believe in free press and truthful press, in order not to confuse what the free press presents and the misleading media show, where the latter?s intention is to make the situation in Iraq worse than what it is.

The press release issued by the ministry of interior has three main points: First, a warning to the satellite TV. Channels continue broadcasting false news, and based on that we have formed a special observation room to monitor these TV stations; the purpose of this unit is to determine the fabricated and false news that hurts and gives the Iraqis a wrong picture that the security situation is very bad, when the facts are totally different.

After the monitoring process, we will contact those TV stations by presenting them with the mistakes and errors they committed by broadcasting such false news, hoping they will correct these false reports on their main news programs. But if they do not change those lying, false stories, then we will seek legal action against them.

For example, we have some of the respected news outlets that deal with news fast and have a relation with many TV channels and the media in general, who distributed a story quoting a person called Jamil Hussein. Afterward, we searched our sources in our staff for anyone by this name? maybe he wore an MOI uniform and gave a different name to the reporter for money. And the second name used is Lt. Maythem.

However, all of you know that the ministry of interior has a large public affairs office and its official spokesman, and we are ready to answer any questions you may have. Therefore, you should contact MOI PAO for all your needs to get real, true news. Based on that, we strongly deny any relation with those two names. In order to serve you better and strengthen the relationship with MOI, do not take statements that have no meaning and do not represent any official. We would like this note to be helpful to you and any statement made by those persons to be ignored.

The second subject is rumors. The ministry received in a week more than 12 cases of claims, one stating 50 killed were there, 200 kidnapped here, 30 corpses found there etc. And when we dispatched our forces and investigators to the locations, we found nothing.

On this note, I would like to thank some of the brothers in the media who are cautious and take the extra step to make sure the news he gets is correct or not, by contacting the ministry to verify any news through us that they hear or receive. Not only (do we reply), but we also give them more detail than they expected, and we hope others will follow suit. Also, we ask our people, please do not take any news or give it credibility, except from a well-known source with a name and an address that is part of the security ministries, etc., such as a minister or police station commander. Or if it is from the MOD or MOI, the name of the officer, his rank, his unit, etc. It is not enough to say ?a source from the ministry of interior.?

Doing otherwise, you will end up helping the spread of the rumors and make them reality, even thought it was a false rumor. This rumor business ? if a large issue, it will take a long time to cover it, but the purpose of the rumors is to disrupt life and make the security apparatus busy with other things than its main tasks. We will end up following rumors instead of hunting terrorists and criminals.


The third subject is, this week the strikes we made against the al-Qaeda terrorist organization in Baghdad were many and very strong in Baghdad. Before my arrival to this press conference, I was informed that one of the three who were just captured or detained is Mazer Al-Jubouri, aka the Baghdad Sniper, and his group. He admitted many things that are very important and very dangerous and our forces used this information about his network and conducted raids in the past 24 hours and detained 30 terrorists.

Those terrorists executed several explosions in Palestine and Beirut streets, and the New Baghdad area. He also admitted that their base is in Diyala province, which supplied them with money, weapons and explosives. They are now under investigation and we think this cell or network has been dismantled.

This week also, we dismantled what are called ?courts? in northern and southern Baghdad, and detained the two persons who issued fatwas to kill the people. Our force dismantled what is called the Omar network, this criminal network that used to exercise its criminal activities in southern Baghdad. And they admitted many things about other terrorist networks and our forces are pursuing them now, as well as other networks for kidnapping.

One of them, we regret, kidnapped a girl and used narcotics on her and raped this little innocent young girl. We captured those criminals and the little girl is receiving medical attention. This is not Iraqis? culture. Just look how far down in debasement they have traveled. With regret, I told you that, because MOI activity does not hold in the media the position it deserves, and also to show the great sacrifice by MOI this week.
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How about the recent case where they reported 11 civilians were shot by US forces based on "eyewitness" accounts once again. Un-named "witnesses" of course.


Separately, police and witnesses said U.S. soldiers shot and killed 11 civilians and wounded five on Sunday night in the Baghdad suburb of Husseiniya. The U.S. military said it had no record of any American military operation in the area.

?We were sitting inside our house when the Americans showed up and started firing at homes. They killed many people and burned some houses,? said one of the witnesses, a man with bandages on his head who was being treated at Imam Ali Hospital in the Shiite slum of Sadr City. The police and witnesses spoke with Associated Press Television News on condition of anonymity to protect their own security.


You may recall Centcom's response:

Classification: UNCLASSIFIED//FOR OFFICIAL USE ONLY

Sir -

Reference the clarification requested on the story by AP below.

Anti-Iraqi Forces opened fire, targeting civilians in the al-Husseiniya area. 10 civilians were killed and six wounded at 11 p.m. Nov. 26. The incident was reported by the Iraqi Police through the Joint National Operations Center (a civilian matter relayed to the Coalition for tracking purposes). There was no Coalition involvement.

v/r

Capt. J. Elaine Hunnicutt (USAF)

Multi-National Corps - Iraq
Joint Operations Center
PAO OIC Nights


So what we have to rely on from the AP is unnamed "witnesses" and the ones who are named turn out to be frauds.
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BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP) _ Iraq's Interior Ministry said Thursday it had formed a special unit to monitor news coverage and vowed to take legal action against journalists who failed to correct stories the ministry deemed to be incorrect.

Brig. Gen. Abdul-Karim Khalaf, spokesman for the ministry, said the purpose of the special monitoring unit was to find "fabricated and false news that hurts and gives the Iraqis a wrong picture that the security situation is very bad, when the facts are totally different."

He said offenders would be notified and asked to "correct these false reports on their main news programs. But if they do not change those lying, false stories, then we will seek legal action against them."

Khalaf explained the news monitoring unit at a weekly Ministry of Interior briefing. As an example, he cited coverage by The Associated Press of an attack Nov. 24 on a mosque in the Hurriyah district in northwest Baghdad.

The AP reported that six Sunni Muslims there were burned alive during the attack. The story quoted witnesses and police Capt. Jamil Hussein.

Khalaf said the ministry had no one on its staff by the name of Jamil Hussein.

"Maybe he wore an MOI (Ministry of Interior) uniform and gave a different name to the reporter for money," Khalaf said.

Khalaf said the ministry had dispatched a team to the Hurriyah neighborhood and to the morgue but found no witnesses or evidence of burned bodies.

The spokesman said the ministry had a large public relations staff and said they should be contacted by the media to "get real, true news."

U.S. military had no comment on the immolations on the day of the attack but subsequently issued a statement, citing the Iraqi army as saying it had found nothing to substantiate the report.

U.S. Navy Lt. Michael B. Dean, a public affairs officer for the multi-national force, later demanded that the story be retracted because he said police Capt. Jamil Hussein "is not a Baghdad police officer or an MOI employee."

His allegations were checked with the AP reporter, who had been in routine contact for more than two years with Hussein, in some cases sitting in his office in the Yarmouk police station in west Baghdad. Hussein wore a police uniform during the face-to-face meetings.

Hussein confirmed the burning story on three separate occasions. AP reporters also went to the neighborhood and found three witnesses to the immolations who told nearly identical stories. Since then more people in the neighborhood have told about the incident in a similar fashion. Pictures of the Mustafa mosque where the incident occurred show that it is badly damaged by explosives and shows signs of scorching from fire.

Scrawled in what appears to be spray paint on the mosque compound wall is the phrase "blood wanted," which Iraqis say has appeared on many structures in areas of heavy Shiite-Sunni sectarian conflict throughout Baghdad.

The phrase is a warning to the sect that is the minority in the neighborhood, Sunnis in the case of the region around the Mustafa mosque in Hurriyah, that they will be killed if they return.

Under Saddam Hussein's regime, the government imposed censorship on local media and severely restricted foreign media coverage, monitoring transmissions and sending secret police to follow journalists. Those who violated the rules were expelled and in some cases jailed.


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