we still need to see what OU and Auburn do, but at this point I gotta vote USC #3. A horrible call gave them the Va Tech game, a horrible call may be the difference in this game against a terrible team, barely beating Stanford, and Cal dominated them. They have the talent, but they are behind the other 2 imo.....
Let me tell you.....
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Agree.... I can't wait to see what the NC game is, if they are favored by too much I'm hitting OU or Auburn hard!
kneifl
kneifl
USC have looked very ordinary today! Hope UCLA score in the final 2 mins and knok the trojans out of the NC!
losing respect for Auburn defense.. :shrug:
Tennessee moving the ball at will.. over 220 yards rushing early 4th quarter :cursin:
Tennessee moving the ball at will.. over 220 yards rushing early 4th quarter :cursin:
Pathetic....Leinart and Bush would shred these guys.
You guys just can't stand the fact that a Pac 10 team has been #1 for so long, plain and simple.. Are you saying the voters don't know their pigskins?
At halftime USC was on pace for 40 points and they came out of the locker room and played one flat half of football and you start saying they should be #3? Hell the 4th quarter they just let the UCLA receivers get open anyways. I'd love to see Cadilac try to run on USC he'd be squashed.
What's your excuse for Auburn's putrid performance tonight?
AUBURN #1? :142lmao: Nice defensive effort to a 3rd string QB I just witnessed.
You guys just can't stand the fact that a Pac 10 team has been #1 for so long, plain and simple.. Are you saying the voters don't know their pigskins?
At halftime USC was on pace for 40 points and they came out of the locker room and played one flat half of football and you start saying they should be #3? Hell the 4th quarter they just let the UCLA receivers get open anyways. I'd love to see Cadilac try to run on USC he'd be squashed.
What's your excuse for Auburn's putrid performance tonight?
AUBURN #1? :142lmao: Nice defensive effort to a 3rd string QB I just witnessed.
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just some food for thought (and my thoughts are posted earlier in this thread. ive got no bias one way or the other. i think usc is the most talented team in the country. not sure about #1 though)
anyway.
southern cal has played 12 games this season.
of those twelve, anyone care to guess how many of those games southern cal has played a full 40:00 in?
answer: four at most. (arizona state, washington state, colorado state, maybe byu)
in eight of twelve games, they had erratic efforts.
virginia tech in the opener.
trailed stanford at the half.
got outworked by california (no shame there, but still not good)
led a pathetic washington team 10-0 at half
trailed oregon state at half
led arizona 14-3 at half as damn near a 40 pt chalk.
inexplicably let notre dame outwork em in 1h.
and then today, a mediocre 2h.
when usc WANTS TO play, theyre the best. but theyd make their case a lot more solid if theyd put full games together. that team is loaded, but go through the motions too much
anyway.
southern cal has played 12 games this season.
of those twelve, anyone care to guess how many of those games southern cal has played a full 40:00 in?
answer: four at most. (arizona state, washington state, colorado state, maybe byu)
in eight of twelve games, they had erratic efforts.
virginia tech in the opener.
trailed stanford at the half.
got outworked by california (no shame there, but still not good)
led a pathetic washington team 10-0 at half
trailed oregon state at half
led arizona 14-3 at half as damn near a 40 pt chalk.
inexplicably let notre dame outwork em in 1h.
and then today, a mediocre 2h.
when usc WANTS TO play, theyre the best. but theyd make their case a lot more solid if theyd put full games together. that team is loaded, but go through the motions too much
I'll be looking to take some points in that NC game. NEVER did I think OU was this tough..... Tough CU loss for me tonight.......
kneifl
kneifl
USC is a joke at #$1.
How anyone could vote them ahead of OU and Auburn must be a complete fool.
They beat Cal....LMAO....look at that unit....playing aagainst Prarie View errrr Southern Miss tonight....
How anyone could vote them ahead of OU and Auburn must be a complete fool.
They beat Cal....LMAO....look at that unit....playing aagainst Prarie View errrr Southern Miss tonight....
I think Chuck Manson is on to something here !
Last Year Oklahoma didn't belong in the championship and proved it versus LSU.
Now we gotta look at this Oklaboner again ? He he he---
Why are people and Bowl committees trying to force this Oklaboner team down our throats? he he he
Oklahoma beats a truly pathetic Colorado team and that translates to them being # 1???? he he he
Last Year Oklahoma didn't belong in the championship and proved it versus LSU.
Now we gotta look at this Oklaboner again ? He he he---
Why are people and Bowl committees trying to force this Oklaboner team down our throats? he he he
Oklahoma beats a truly pathetic Colorado team and that translates to them being # 1???? he he he
uhhh are you trying to tell us UCLA is good? They got destroyed at home this year by the team that finished 5th in the Big 12 South! Fact is USC looked like crap against a crap team, OU looked great against a crap team, and Auburn won by DD against a team that aint that bad, although depleted. We could all look at each team and give good reasons for and against. hell, computers cant even agree on SOS.
But I tell you, these ESPN pundits crack me up. They say Cal shouldnt lose out on BCS bid by one bad game (that would be against a team ranked 98th in office that ahs a 31 point home loss to Cincy on the resume) yet the same guys, Corso in particular, says he jumps OU over Auburn because Auburn didnt look good enough in winning tonight? And these are the types of clowns who hold millions of dollars and hopes and dreams of a lot o kids in their hands. Absurd.
But I tell you, these ESPN pundits crack me up. They say Cal shouldnt lose out on BCS bid by one bad game (that would be against a team ranked 98th in office that ahs a 31 point home loss to Cincy on the resume) yet the same guys, Corso in particular, says he jumps OU over Auburn because Auburn didnt look good enough in winning tonight? And these are the types of clowns who hold millions of dollars and hopes and dreams of a lot o kids in their hands. Absurd.
But what's up with the Big 12 conference... they went to 7 or 8 bowls last year and lost a bunch of them. i think if anything, The Big 12 is over-rated.
For some reason people think that teams from the Big 12 are great. he he he
keep that illusion going again this year just like last year... i made a bundle in last years bowl games off those vaunted Big 12 teams. lol he he he--boy did they suck last year..!!!!
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For some reason people think that teams from the Big 12 are great. he he he
keep that illusion going again this year just like last year... i made a bundle in last years bowl games off those vaunted Big 12 teams. lol he he he--boy did they suck last year..!!!!
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lets not judge the teams by the last game ...ucla IS better than colorado....by far....and they were home vs their #1 rival...
and tennessee is a good club...in a championship game....
does anyone really think that auburn or usc doesn`t destroy that colorado defense on a neutral???
to make your decision based on what happened today is silly,imo...
and tennessee is a good club...in a championship game....
does anyone really think that auburn or usc doesn`t destroy that colorado defense on a neutral???
to make your decision based on what happened today is silly,imo...
Weasel you are right. Of course people making judgments based on other seasons is even more absurd. If you look at the body of work, what are the "negatives" - if there can be such a thing - of these undefeated teams?
USC
- thoroughly outplyed in squeaking out a home win against Cal (Cal that beat one ranked team this year);
had to comeback furiously then hold off a woeful Stanford team;
a tainted win over what at the time looked like a weak VT team but looks much better now;
a less than impressive to say the least win today against a bad UCLA team - and some more beneficial officiating miscues;
could throw in some other bones I guess, such as dreadful first halves against Arizona, Washington, and Oregon State - even ND
OU
less impresssive non-conference wins than USC
held on at Okie State and AM - but a pair of 7 win teams in tough places to play;
defense not as good early in the year;
a down Big 12 as a whole , but an up south division (north wins were Kansas, Kansas Stae, and Nebraska, and now Colorado - not too impressive to say the least)
Auburn
very weak non-conference schedule;
a 1 point win at home v LSU (people are really stretching with this one)
they only beat Tenn by 10 on a neutral field in a rematch game (are people reallya rguing this too???)
I would argue, although some would disagree, that as good as SEC is that Auburn skated pretty lucky this year - Miss and Miss State, Ark at home, Bama with a scrub QB (although still a tough palce to play, tougher than anywhere USC or OU played); the tough games, LSU and Georgia were at home;
On the other side:
Each won every game of course. Auburn actually played and beat more ranked teams. If you look at quality wins how isnt Auburn one of the top 2 - LSU, Georgia, Tenn twice? USC has VaTech and Cal; Ou really only has Texas.
We can all debate who really belongs, but the fact is that far and away the primary reason it will be USC and OU isnt some objective criteria, but rahter that is who started the year 1-2. Think about this _ if the first poll was October 10, the day after OU shut out texas and USC barely beat Cal, and right after Auburn had beaten LSU and Tenn in Knoxville, does anyone really think USC would have been anywhere but #3? Not saying it would be just, but thats how it would have been, and tonight the same pundits still supporting USC but ragging Auburn would have had the same stories but for the other teams.
USC
- thoroughly outplyed in squeaking out a home win against Cal (Cal that beat one ranked team this year);
had to comeback furiously then hold off a woeful Stanford team;
a tainted win over what at the time looked like a weak VT team but looks much better now;
a less than impressive to say the least win today against a bad UCLA team - and some more beneficial officiating miscues;
could throw in some other bones I guess, such as dreadful first halves against Arizona, Washington, and Oregon State - even ND
OU
less impresssive non-conference wins than USC
held on at Okie State and AM - but a pair of 7 win teams in tough places to play;
defense not as good early in the year;
a down Big 12 as a whole , but an up south division (north wins were Kansas, Kansas Stae, and Nebraska, and now Colorado - not too impressive to say the least)
Auburn
very weak non-conference schedule;
a 1 point win at home v LSU (people are really stretching with this one)
they only beat Tenn by 10 on a neutral field in a rematch game (are people reallya rguing this too???)
I would argue, although some would disagree, that as good as SEC is that Auburn skated pretty lucky this year - Miss and Miss State, Ark at home, Bama with a scrub QB (although still a tough palce to play, tougher than anywhere USC or OU played); the tough games, LSU and Georgia were at home;
On the other side:
Each won every game of course. Auburn actually played and beat more ranked teams. If you look at quality wins how isnt Auburn one of the top 2 - LSU, Georgia, Tenn twice? USC has VaTech and Cal; Ou really only has Texas.
We can all debate who really belongs, but the fact is that far and away the primary reason it will be USC and OU isnt some objective criteria, but rahter that is who started the year 1-2. Think about this _ if the first poll was October 10, the day after OU shut out texas and USC barely beat Cal, and right after Auburn had beaten LSU and Tenn in Knoxville, does anyone really think USC would have been anywhere but #3? Not saying it would be just, but thats how it would have been, and tonight the same pundits still supporting USC but ragging Auburn would have had the same stories but for the other teams.
