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I am going to watch this game live at Anderson Arena, and want to load up on (and cheer for) the home team. Is there anyone who agrees/disagrees on this, and if so, why?

Thanks for the help!

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Ball St. @ Bowling Green (-1)

I am going to watch this game live at Anderson Arena, and want to load up on (and cheer for) the home team. Is there anyone who agrees/disagrees on this, and if so, why?

Thanks for the help!

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I think you need to ask yourself one question : why is the line 1 ???????
 

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Well, to me it says take BG.
Why is a 14-8 team getting points (now -2)
against a sub-par/ below .500 ball club?

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Well, to me it says take BG.
Why is a 14-8 team getting points (now -2)
against a sub-par/ below .500 ball club?

:nono:

records/ shmecords.... both 6-3 in con ....looks like to me the cash is on BG the books need ST , so they throw you more cheese ...:nono:
 

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Well, to me it says take BG.
Why is a 14-8 team getting points (now -2)
against a sub-par/ below .500 ball club?

:nono:


Probably because the East dominates the west division to the tune of 19-6 this season. Western conference teams road wins over Eastern teams are few and far between. This has been a constant over a few years now. Also the conference records are skewed for the very same reason that I mentioned. Ball St ran the table against their inept Western foes while BG had to play teams like Buffalo and Kent.

IMO the line was right where it should have been. I looked at this game from every angle and i couldn't find much of an edge either way. Certainly, the conference cross over game trends would suggest BG.

It's a pass for me based on BG's poor showing vs.WMU.
 

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Thanks, FCP


Probably because the East dominates the west division to the tune of 19-6 this season. Western conference teams road wins over Eastern teams are few and far between. This has been a constant over a few years now. Also the conference records are skewed for the very same reason that I mentioned. Ball St ran the table against their inept Western foes while BG had to play teams like Buffalo and Kent.

IMO the line was right where it should have been. I looked at this game from every angle and i couldn't find much of an edge either way. Certainly, the conference cross over game trends would suggest BG.

It's a pass for me based on BG's poor showing vs.WMU.
 

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opinions...

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Well, after watching last night's game at historic Anderson Arena, I learned a few things... first, the MAC level of play; well it basically blows. I thought I was at a high school game. secondly, I learned to find better games to bet on than these lame ass excuses for teams.

Would anyone agree that this clearly qualified as a bad beat? BG was up 64-56 with 27 seconds remaining in the game... 27 seconds! they miss a F.T., and Ball St. cans a 3. they go 1 of 2 at the line, Ball gets a duece. they inbound the ball, and step on the line, foul Ball St foolishly, and the guy makes the 1st, misses the 2nd, and there is 5.7 seconds left and Ball is down 3... down 3 mind you, and off the miss they battle for it and instead of kicking it out for the potential game-tying 3, they play volleyball with it and tip it in for a duece at the buzzer - final score 65-64. All I could do was laugh... MAC=SUCK.

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Well, after watching last night's game at historic Anderson Arena, I learned a few things... first, the MAC level of play; well it basically blows. I thought I was at a high school game. secondly, I learned to find better games to bet on than these lame ass excuses for teams.

Would anyone agree that this clearly qualified as a bad beat? BG was up 64-56 with 27 seconds remaining in the game... 27 seconds! they miss a F.T., and Ball St. cans a 3. they go 1 of 2 at the line, Ball gets a duece. they inbound the ball, and step on the line, foul Ball St foolishly, and the guy makes the 1st, misses the 2nd, and there is 5.7 seconds left and Ball is down 3... down 3 mind you, and off the miss they battle for it and instead of kicking it out for the potential game-tying 3, they play volleyball with it and tip it in for a duece at the buzzer - final score 65-64. All I could do was laugh... MAC=SUCK.

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I bet ivy gms, to me, it's not the level of play ...it's an edge you can get on a gm....who cares what the level of pay is, as long as you win... I don't think this was a bad beat.. this was clearly a ball st or pass play ... where was the value with BG ?????? I go back to my original question : why is the line 1 ???? games like this you have to be on the side of the books or pass ... you will get lucky and steel one here and there but not often enough .. even if you know nothing about the game.... get on the side of the house or pass ... It's tough to pass but if you can you will win...
 
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for the record ; I didn't bet this game...I wish I did... these are the type of plays that put money in your pocket... tough plays but with discipline , great palys ...
 

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did you read my post? anyone on Ball St. got a small miracle last night. I was there, I witnessed it live. How many teams blow an 8 point lead in 27 seconds? and why would a team fight for a 2 pt. shot, when they are down 3 with 5.7 seconds left? they had time to kick it out for a game tying three, but apparently they aren't too well coached... I am not crying the blues over this loss, but I guarantee that if this scenario played out 100 times, BG holds that lead 99 of them. It was clearly a fluke; and happens even less to quality teams.
 

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Anderson will be missed by me. It wasn't too long ago when that place really kicked ass. BG had some quality teams and fan support was great. The students could reach out and touch a player and the home court advantage that the Falcons enjoyed was really tough to overcome. We get over there once every season with a white knuckle drive to add to the fun. :142smilie

Not going to get into the results of the game but it sounded like a most unfortunate ATS loss for BG backers. I'll just stick to my original post when I said there was little edge to be found for either team. Statistically speaking , they mirror one another.

Face it, a large part of gambling is nothing other than blind luck. Sometimes you get the kind bounce of the ball, sometimes you don't. To be sure, I would not beat my chest, nor would I consider myself to the reincarnation of Einstein for being on the right side of this one.
 

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did you read my post? anyone on Ball St. got a small miracle last night. I was there, I witnessed it live. How many teams blow an 8 point lead in 27 seconds? and why would a team fight for a 2 pt. shot, when they are down 3 with 5.7 seconds left? they had time to kick it out for a game tying three, but apparently they aren't too well coached... I am not crying the blues over this loss, but I guarantee that if this scenario played out 100 times, BG holds that lead 99 of them. It was clearly a fluke; and happens even less to quality teams.

it seems to happen alot in the mac endings that you just shake your head and say how the f did that just happen. Mac games have been exposed over the years for shady results. Many years ago there was a guy on here specialized in horizon league games he quit playing mac games because of all the bizzare endings I remember him saying there was something strange about mac weekday games and made and showed some cold hard facts as to why this league should be avoided.
 
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This ending was beyond shady... just flat out nearly impossible.

FCP, Anderson is a nostalgic building...
and I would agree in that these two teams are close; they both suck pretty equally. I would argue to my death that this game is cov ered by BG 99/100 times given the variables.

Congrats to you for being on Ball St...
 

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for the record ; I didn't bet this game...I wish I did... these are the type of plays that put money in your pocket... tough plays but with discipline , great palys ...

if you are talking to me; yes I did read your post ....I hope know one thought, I was beating my chest on this game..... I know it was a tough beat for cleeves but all my words are important here.....
 
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