MAC Saturday 9/20

worm44

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hey Hellah-I do not know if you remember, but I am the person who lives near UB-and goes to all their games--well what ever you do -do not put a dime on UB--this team has given up--big time--players are not even showing up for practices-yes that is right -today 13 players cut practice...it is over for the coach, and the player sno it.....:) :D :cool:
 

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They CUT practice!!!?!?!?!? Are you shitting me?!?! :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

Dude, thanks for heads-up...I wasnt gonna bet this game, but I may take UConn now just for that...
 

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no-its true-a friend of mine teaches at UB and has students in class and heard about it at her office hours...I guess the coach threw a shit fit so word spread quickly.......for whatever it is worth:) :D :cool:
 

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you got it bud-thanks for all the work you do...And I will always be your link to UB football.......:) :D :cool:
 

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I should thank you as well worm. . . information like that is absolutely golden and something Vegas doesn't have. If my performance last week had gone a little better, I may have completely unloaded on this first half play, but 10% will have to do.

Who knows though, maybe the Bulls cheerleaders will get into the minds of the Huskies' players enough to keep this one close :lol:
 

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Toledo loves Pittsburgh - for recruits

Toledo loves Pittsburgh - for recruits

Toledo loves Pittsburgh - for recruits

By MATT MARKEY
BLADE SPORTS WRITER


Tom Amstutz has combed through the hills of southwestern Pennsylvania like a prospector searching for gold. Once the big mining operations from the major conferences have had their take from the deep vein of local talent, Amstutz has found a nugget or two they missed, and quickly banked it 240 miles away in Toledo.

The head coach of the Rockets, who has doggedly recruited the Pittsburgh area for years, knows the wealth of football riches stashed there. Three of those Pittsburgh recruits - safety Patrick Body, cornerback Brandon Hefflin and quarterback Bruce Gradkowski - will play vital roles when the Rockets face No. 9-ranked Pittsburgh (2-0) Saturday night in the Glass Bowl.

Amstutz knows Mt. Lebanon, Penn Hills and Monroeville. He?s been to McKeesport and Upper St. Clair, and has passed through the Squirrel Hill Tunnel. A number of times, Amstutz drove back to Toledo after those recruiting forays thinking he had landed a prize or two

"We like to go over there and recruit because there is great football tradition in that area - everywhere you look," Amstutz said. "Football is real important to those kids in high school around there - and when football is important and there are a lot of good athletes, it is good to pick up a few and bring them over here."

Amstutz also knows the renowned Western Pennsylvania Interscholastic Athletic League is more than a mouthful: It is one of the traditional hotbeds of high school football on this side of the Mississippi.

"All the big schools recruit Pittsburgh because it has produced so many great football players over the years, but we?ve managed to slip in there and come back with some fine players, too," he said. "And now those kids will get a chance to play against Pittsburgh here in Toledo, and that has to be a thrill. This probably adds a little fuel to their fire since they?re Pittsburgh-area guys. I know how kids think, and they probably want to prove themselves and show that they can play with a team like Pittsburgh."

The Rockets (2-1) have eight players on their roster from Pennsylvania, including the three starters, and all of them are from the greater Pittsburgh area. Freshmen Marques Council and Travis Williams are from Aliquippa, senior Ray Turner is from Clairton, junior Mike Sacco is from Sewickley, and freshman Kareem Ferguson is another Pittsburgh product.

"We have a bunch of Pittsburgh guys and Pennsylvania people, and I know they?ll all be pumped up and ready to play this one," Gradkowski said. "We?ll play just as hard as we do in any other game, but a lot of us will have more family and friends here, so that has to serve as some sort of additional motivation."

Gradkowski said that as a kid he was a Penn State fan foremost, but also had some allegiance to Pitt, which is near his home.

"I always liked Pitt - that?s your hometown team," Gradkowski said. "But I was always a big Penn State fan more than that. Pitt is five minutes from my house, so I went to games growing up and always liked it, but now I have the chance to play against them and that?s a wonderful opportunity and I?m just going to try and take advantage of it."

When Gradkowski was rewriting the WPIAL passing record book as a senior at Senton-La Salle, Pitt showed some interest in him.

"But it seemed like they were waiting for another guy to decide, so they didn?t really recruit me hard," Gradkowski said. "We talked a little bit, but not that much. It?s a tough job recruiting - I understand that - and it?s a game - coaches are always guessing what your potential will be in a few years. They can?t base it all on ability in high school; they have to consider if you will adapt to college and develop into a great player."

Hefflin, a senior who has started every game in his UT career, said he relishes the opportunity to face Pitt in the Glass Bowl. Toledo lost 37-19 at Pittsburgh last season in the first meeting between the two programs.

"I couldn?t have had a better opportunity than this - going up against the main school from my hometown," said Hefflin, who is from Penn Hills. "At times while I was in high school, I thought I would like to play there, but I didn?t get recruited as hard so I just looked to other places. Things have worked out great, and it?s exciting to be playing them in our place my senior year."

Body, who is from Pittsburgh?s Schenley High School, said there are a number of Pittsburgh-area players on the Pitt roster.

"We probably know some of them and we played against some of them in high school, so that adds a little bit extra to this game," he said. "This is a big game for every guy on this team, and for the guys we have from Pittsburgh, it?s a little something more."

Gradkowski, who will make the fourth start of his college career against the Panthers, said he?s not surprised so many Pittsburgh-area players have ended up at UT.

"It?s a football town - with the Steelers and the history and all - and a lot of great players have come out of the Pittsburgh area," Gradkowski said. "Football is big a lot of places, but it seems to be extra important in the Pittsburgh area. That is probably the main reason you see so many college and pro players come from that one area."
 

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Hellah - a few quick points:

1) Not sure why you are so big on Zwick but everything I've read and heard is completely opposite. Coaches are upset that he has yet to show he understands the offense and he spends 80% of his time in the weight room. He has put on 25 lbs. since early spring and the muscle hasn't helped with his accuracy at all. I'm one Buckeye fan who is not looking forward to seeing him under center

2) I agree with you on the UConn 1st half bet. I actually was looking to play this as well thinking UB gets a back-door cover late but with the info. on practices might make this a 2 unit play.

3) I agree with you on Miami(Oh) as getting the points in this spot is not enough for me. Thinking about the over possibly if the line drops to 56-57. Could be over 1000 total yards in this game.

4) CMU ML is probably my favorite play for the weekend after looking at the games. You're right on with your write-up and I think line will drop to 3.5-4 by kickoff.

Good luck this weekend!
 

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We talking UAB Or Buffalo? I believe Buffalo. If there is that much unrest with the players the world knows now. We have about 4/5 thousands hits just here at MJ's every day. If vegas knows they will correct line or pull game off board. So watch line and you will know whats up.
Mr 10. Alabama line looks so good so easy. Almost like OH ST. We are never given to many gifts. Is the line so low because Bama may be looking ahead to Arkansaw. There just soemthing wrong.
I just wonder if you arn't getting alittle of the fealing to.
 

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Bigdad2...

1) I havent followed what he has done on High St lately. When I saw Zwick in high school, I thought he was gonna be the next heisman...he was that good in my eyes..he has the arm, the legs, the everything...but it saddens me to hear he`s struggeling..he`s a good person

2) I hope it rains during the UConn game, rain always helps offense

3) People seem to be on Miami OH. Fletcher is on them, and he`s a solid capper - so they must have good value.

4) Ball St fans keep telling me "BSU is on the rise mann...lay the points" I tell them "dude, shut the fawk up...you were suppose to be on the rise 5 years ago...leave me!" CMU is GREAT as a dog...they go 3 or 4 deep in tailback..and they have 2 solid QBs and they have a linesman that will be either 2nd or 3rd rounder..

djv - I dont think Bama would be looking ahead to Arkansas. They have no reason too, they saw what NIU did to Maryland...they realize that ANYTHING can happen...even in their backyard (BG beating Purdue). There will be no overlooking........As far as Buffalo, Iam sure they site gets 4/5K hits a day, buttt I dont think they would do that without crediablity. I happen to believe worm cuz, well, he`s cool :) and he even helped me in MAC Hoops last year with these Buffablows

Good Luck All

Fawk The Bucks!!! :thefinger
 

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DR STRANGELOVE said:
NO FKN WAY

if osu loses, i'll send you my neighbors thong

lol

do I smell.....a......WAGER?!?!

you win...you get either a Toledo hat or a BG hat..

I win....we will discuss this ;)
 

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hellah

hellah

what do you think of BGs chances to win MAC, i was looking at their sched and it is quite favorable

i can get 15/1 but means theyd have to win champ game too, but could hedge

thanx gregg

email me too if you want

pt1gard@aol.com
 

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Mr 10/Worm I believe the info about Buffalo because there just a bad team to start with. Im just saying if it's as bad as said. Well Vegas does not miss much. I would say line will be corrected or if bad eneough game pulled.
 
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