MEXICANS SEETHING OVER BORDER DEATH

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Associated Press
June 9, 2010, 8:22AM

CIUDAD JUAREZ, Mexico ? Mexicans are seething over the second death of a countryman at the hands of U.S. Border Patrol agents in two weeks, an incident near downtown El Paso that is threatening to escalate tensions over migrant issues.

U.S. authorities said Tuesday a Border Patrol agent was defending himself and colleagues when he fatally shot the 15-year-old as officers came under a barrage of big stones while trying to detain illegal immigrants on the U.S. side of the Rio Grande.

About 30 relatives and friends gathered late Tuesday to mourn Sergio Adrian Hernandez Huereka, whose shooting Monday evening came along the border with Texas. He died on the Mexican side of the river.

"Damn them! Damn them!" sobbed Rosario Hernandez, sister of the dead teenager, at a wake in the family's two-room adobe house on the outskirts of Ciudad Juarez.

Preliminary reports on the incident indicated that U.S. officers on bicycle patrol "were assaulted with rocks by an unknown number of people," Border Patrol Special Operations Supervisor Ramiro Cordero said Tuesday.

"During the assault at least one agent discharged his firearm," he said. "The agent is currently on administrative leave. A thorough, multi-agency investigation is currently ongoing."

The shooting happened beneath a railroad bridge linking the two nations, and late Tuesday night a banner appeared on the bridge that said in English: "U.S. Border Patrol we worry about the violence in Mex and murders and now you. Viva Mexico!"

Less than two weeks ago, Mexican migrant Anastasio Hernandez, 32, died after a Customs and Border Protection officer shocked him with a stun gun at the San Ysidro border crossing that separates San Diego and Tijuana, Mexico.

Mexican President Felipe Calderon said Tuesday that his government "will use all resources available to protect the rights of Mexican migrants."

The government "reiterates its rejection to the disproportionate use of force on the part on U.S. authorities on the border with Mexico," the president added in a statement.

On an unpaved street, gathered around Hernandez's gray metal casket, the teen's family called for justice.

"There is a God, so why would I want vengeance if no one will return him to me. They killed my little boy and the only thing I ask is for the law" to be applied, said the boy's father, Jesus Hernandez.

His mother was less hopeful. "May God forgive them because I know nothing will happen" to them, Maria Guadalupe Huereka said.

Above the casket was a photo of the youth wearing his soccer uniform and his junior high school grade cards, which showed A's and B's.

His mother said he was a good student who never got in trouble. He was the youngest of five children, played on two soccer teams and had just finished junior high school, she said.

The case took a testy turn when U.S. and Mexican officials traded suggestions of misconduct in the incident.

Arturo Sandoval, a spokesman for the Chihuahua state Attorney General's office, said a spent .40-caliber shell casing was found near the body ? raising the question of whether the fatal shot was fired inside Mexico, although he did not explicitly make that allegation. That would violate the rules for Border Patrol agents, who are supposed to stay on the U.S. side of the border.

A U.S. official, meanwhile, said video shows the Border Patrol agent did not enter Mexico.

The official, who agreed to discuss the matter only if not quoted by name, said the video also shows what seem to be four Mexican law enforcement officers driving to the edge of the dry but muddy bed of the Rio Grande, walking across to the U.S. side, picking up an undetermined object and returning to Mexico near the area where the boy's body was. Like their U.S. counterparts, Mexican law officers are not authorized to cross the border without permission.

According to the FBI, Border Patrol agents were responding to a group of suspected illegal immigrants being smuggled into the U.S. near the Paso Del Norte bridge, across from Ciudad Juarez around 6:30 p.m. Monday.

One suspected illegal immigrant was detained on the levee on the U.S. side, the FBI said in a statement. Another Border Patrol agent arrived on the concrete bank where the now-dry, 33-foot (10-meter) wide Rio Grande is, and detained a second person. Other suspects ran back into Mexico and began throwing rocks, the FBI said.

At least one rock came from behind the agent, who was kneeling beside a suspected illegal immigrant whom he had prone on the ground, FBI spokeswoman Andrea Simmons said.

The agent told the rock throwers to stop and back off, but they continued. The agent fired his weapon several times, hitting one who later died, said the FBI, which is leading the investigation because it involved an assault on a federal officer. The agent was not injured, Simmons said.

Chihuahua state officials released a statement demanding a full investigation into the death.

The boy was shot once near the eye, Sandoval said. Authorities were still investigating the bullet's trajectory, he said.

Sandoval said he couldn't comment on the video reported by the U.S. official because he didn't know anything about it. "I am unaware about those hypotheses," he said.

Sandoval said Mexican investigators were questioning three teenagers who were with the victim at the time of the shooting.

The boy's sister, Rosario, told Associated Press Television News that her brother was playing with several friends and did not plan to cross the border.

"They say that they started firing from over there and suddenly hit him in the head," she said.

The boy's mother said he had gone to eat with his brother, who handles luggage at a border customs office. While there, he met up with a group of friends and they decided to hang out by the river, she said.

"That was his mistake, to have gone to the river," she said in an interview with Mexico's Milenio TV. "That's why they killed him."

Mexico's Foreign Relations Department said its records indicate the number of Mexicans killed or wounded by U.S. immigration authorities rose from five in 2008 to 12 in 2009 to 17 so far this year, which is not half over.

T.J. Bonner, president of the union representing Border Patrol agents, said rock throwing aimed at Border Patrol agents is common and capable of causing serious injury.

"It is a deadly force encounter, one that justifies the use of deadly force," Bonner said.
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Feel badly for the 15 year old and his family. My question is why is this boy near the border if not going to cross? Most likely answer is to cause mischief. Throwing stones does not warrant getting shot in the head but I was not there to not justify the patrol officers actions. Just can't imagine the officer fearing for his life though. What the hell do I know? Sadly these escalations are probably going to get worse than better.
 

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He got what he deserved, does anybody want someone to throw at them? How many head shots are acceptable?

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How many head shots were there? I didn't read of one. I don't know exactly what happened to say that he "deserved it." Kids are stupid and I feel badly that he put himself in that spot.. I am sure the teeen had no idea what kiind of harm he was getting into. JMHO
 

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Lets say it this way.. My brother in law is getting arrested but my nephew and his 2 firends throw rocks at the police officers. Do they deserve to get shot in the head?? :shrug: What if it were your 15 year old son? We just do not have enough info to say this kid deserved it.
 
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Lets say it this way.. My brother in law is getting arrested but my nephew and his 2 firends throw rocks at the police officers. Do they deserve to get shot in the head?? :shrug: What if it were your 15 year old son? We just do not have enough info to say this kid deserved it.

WELL..... Maybe Not in the HEAD!
 

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He got what he deserved, does anybody want someone to throw at them? How many head shots are acceptable?

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Its nice to see that no matter what the forum, you are consistent in adding zero.

The kid should have not been by the border but getting shot in the head was too much.
 

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The Border Patrol Officers were taking BFRs while arresting another border buddy, take a couple shots to the nugget during a BFR assault and you tend to get pissed, this is not the first time they have been cracked in the head. Busting the kid with a head shot is definately not called for, but a good shot none the less. But they are trained to kill, not wound, no matter how much the Soetero Admin wants to pacify them. Next year they will be using super soakers and banana peels to slow down ILLEGAL BORDER CROSSING
 

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The Border Patrol Officers were taking BFRs while arresting another border buddy, take a couple shots to the nugget during a BFR assault and you tend to get pissed, this is not the first time they have been cracked in the head. Busting the kid with a head shot is definately not called for, but a good shot none the less. But they are trained to kill, not wound, no matter how much the Soetero Admin wants to pacify them. Next year they will be using super soakers and banana peels to slow down ILLEGAL BORDER CROSSING

Oh yeah if you shoot your weapon its to kill. Just wish there was something else. Did he pull the gun and then say quit or I will shoot? TOo much to be known. Wish there was some other sort of method to use..
 

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As a country we have become way too soft. I am sorry for the boys death. But if they took care of the problem themselves there would be no need for us to even be there, nevermind shoot. We are going broke fighting two wars with our arms tied behind our backs. Because, somehow we find ourselves in war with an enemy that we are not allowed to shoot. If they took care of the terrorists there would be no need for us to be there. Same as this kid's death. If they took care of the border jumpers there would be no need for us to be there. We have the most powerful weapons in the history of the world yet we are intimidated by a kid throwing a stone. Why are we even in that position? It is a shame the kid was allowed to throw a rock. Shame on those who allowed it.
 

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As a country we have become way too soft. I am sorry for the boys death. But if they took care of the problem themselves there would be no need for us to even be there, nevermind shoot. We are going broke fighting two wars with our arms tied behind our backs. Because, somehow we find ourselves in war with an enemy that we are not allowed to shoot. If they took care of the terrorists there would be no need for us to be there. Same as this kid's death. If they took care of the border jumpers there would be no need for us to be there. We have the most powerful weapons in the history of the world yet we are intimidated by a kid throwing a stone. Why are we even in that position? It is a shame the kid was allowed to throw a rock. Shame on those who allowed it.

You have to love how neo-cons try to justify collateral damage.
 

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Tragic story. I think it's only going to get worse. I'm sure it could have been handled better by law enforcement, BUT, a head shot from a rock hitting you in the right spot can kill you.
a friend of mine in high school died from a getting hit in the head from a botltle thrown at him. I was also at a party in high school that got loud and broken up by police and some a-hole threw a bottle that struck and killed a police officer.
I don't doubt this young man did well in school and was probably a good boy who hung around dumbasses that liked to harass border agents, because it's cool. Well guess what, it isn't cool and sometimes horrible things happen because of poor choices.
I really hope that this can end up not turning into a huge disaster. It's just so sad. :(
 

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this was passed along to me from a family member..

she has lived on the border for 50 years..

her husband was border patrolman for 25 years..





We, in Arizona, know some folks are boycotting us

-- but they really should come out here and see our Beautiful Sonoran Desert.








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We know they'd love it and maybe they can share what they saw

with the rest of the country so others can love it too!

with the rest of the country so others can love it too!

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And as you can see in this picture, fresh footprints leading right into it.




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As we kept walking down the wash, we thought for sure it was going to end,

but around every corner was more and more trash!








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And of course the trail leading out of the wash in our city, heads directly NORTH to Tucson,

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They've already come through here. Isn't Arizona just beautiful? Why would you boycott us???






Our desert has basically been turned into a landfill.



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You can find many of these filthy dry washes throughout southern Arizona.

It is a war zone down here folks....and unless you have been out to see it....

you are absolutely clueless on what is going on down here!



The trash left behind by people illegally crossing our border is another Environmental Disaster to hit the USA.






If these actions had been done in one of our Northwest Forests or Seashore National Parks areas,

there would be an uprising of the American people.....but this is the Arizona-Mexican border.






You won't see these pictures on CNN, ABC, NBC, CBS.

Nor will they mention the disease that comes from the uncovered human waste left in our desert.









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"It's not about Right vs Left, Liberal vs. Conservative, Republican vs. Democrat .

It's about supporting the US Constitution"

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