More Shame, More Sorrow

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More Shame, More Sorrow
By Paul Craig Roberts

In the administration of George W. Bush, the Republican Party has achieved the greatest combination of idiocy and evil in human history.

The Republicans have bogged America down in a gratuitous and illegal war. The war has destroyed Iraq, killed between 650,000 and 1,000,000 Iraqi civilians, displaced 4,000,000 Iraqis, and littered the country with depleted uranium. Bush?s war remains unwon despite its five year duration and $1 trillion in out-of-pocket and incurred future costs.

Bush?s invasion of Iraq is a war crime under the Nuremberg standard, a direct counterpart to Hitler?s invasion of Poland. Both were based on lies and deception, and the declared reasons for both were masks for secret agendas.

Bush?s invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq, his planned attack on Iran [See Considering a war with Iran: A discussion paper on WMD in the Middle East, PDF], and his support for Israel?s attack on Lebanon and genocidal policies toward the Palestinians have radicalized the Middle East and Muslims worldwide. American and Israeli aggression have vindicated Osama bin Laden?s propaganda, produced massive recruits for Al Qaeda, and unleashed destabilizing forces throughout the Middle East

Bush?s wars are strengthening Islam. Abdullah Gul has just been elected president of Turkey. Gul is described by the American media as "former Islamist." Gul is supported by the ruling political party of prime minister Erdogan, another "former Islamist."

Gul?s election to the presidency by 76% of the Turkish parliament has upset Turkey?s secularized military, long in the pay of the US government. On August 27 Turkey?s military chief, General Yasar Buyukanit, declared that "centers of evil" "systematically try to corrode the secular nature of the Turkish Republic." [ Turkish army warns of 'centres of evil' over Gul, By Donald Macintyre, Independent, (UK) August 28, 2007]The Turkish military, many believe at the request and pay of the US, has overthrown four Turkish governments since 1960, the last only 10 years ago.

With President Bush?s rant about " bringing democracy to the Middle East," the Turkish military is less able to impose Western values on an Islamic people. Similarly, the American puppet in Egypt cannot as easily suppress the Islamic values and aspirations of Egyptians.

US puppet rulers in Jordan and Pakistan, and even the Saudis and oil emirates, report the ground shaking under their feet. America?s puppet in Pakistan is in trouble, and his difficulties are compounded by US military incursions into Pakistan. The Bush administration is considering contingency plans to seize Pakistan?s nuclear weapons in the event the American puppet is overthrown, delusional contingency plans considering the over-stretched US military.

In the postwar years, the US managed with its money and influence to secularize an elite class in Middle Eastern countries, an elite that identifies with the West and not with their own cultures. This artificial elite has produced a wide political gap between the masses of the people and the rulers. Increasingly, Muslim masses perceive their rulers as allied with foreign powers against them.

In Iraq the American puppet government of Nuri al-Maliki seems to be on its last legs. The Sunnis have pulled their support, as has the most important Shi?ite leader, Muqtada al-Sadr, who realizes that the Maliki government is too complicit in US crimes to be a legitimate government of Iraq. With both the Bush administration and Congress blaming Maliki for America?s failure in Iraq, Maliki?s fate looks increasingly to be that of Ngo Dinh Diem, America?s Vietnam puppet who was blamed for the failure of US intervention in Vietnam.

Just as Hitler long denied German defeats on the Russian front and even in his last days was ordering non-existent German divisions to relieve Berlin, the Bush regime finds a new straw to grasp in Iraq each time the previous straw proves to be a delusion. The latest straw is "the surge." While Americans surge, the British have been defeated in southern Iraq and have withdrawn to two bases in eerie similarity to the French at Dien Bien Phu. The British bases are subjected to between 30 and 60 mortar and rocket attacks each day. British generals want their troops out of Iraq. The longer UK Prime Minister Brown keeps them in Iraq in order to appease the Bush administration, the harder it will be to rescue the survivors.

With American retreat south to Kuwait now potentially cut off, how will the US extract its troops and equipment when American defeat can no longer be denied?

The Bush administration and its politicized military are already blaming the failure of "the surge" on Iran. Iran is alleged to be training and arming Iraqis who resist the US occupation. Bush has said he will hold Iran responsible. There is abundant evidence that the Bush administration is preparing yet another illegal attack on a Muslim country without assessing the consequences.

The Bush administration seems destined to produce such disasters that it will be driven to the use of nuclear weapons in order to avoid defeat. The Bush administration possesses the combination of evil and stupidity required to escalate a failed "cakewalk war" into a nuclear one.

Many of the administration?s most evil members?Wolfowitz, Feith, Libby, Rumsfeld, Rove, and Gonzales?have been discarded as the tragedy deepens, but Cheney remains ensconced as does the moron in the White House. Before they fall, Bush and Cheney will bring more sorrow to the world and more shame to Americans.
 

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yes, that would be quite a tragedy!

You may have a point. Why would the country need five kids walking around with some common sense when we could have five more easily conned knuckleheads in Kentucky?
 

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You may have a point. Why would the country need five kids walking around with some common sense when we could have five more easily conned knuckleheads in Kentucky?

5 would even be more of a tragedy. Keep that number at 0. Carry on.
 

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5 would even be more of a tragedy. Keep that number at 0. Carry on.

How is this president working out by the way? You red staters delivered him to us. Maybe its time to take some responsibility. Was a burning flag and gay marraige worth all this?
 

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How is this president working out by the way? You red staters delivered him to us. Maybe its time to take some responsibility. Was a burning flag and gay marraige worth all this?

I'm no GW fan. I've been very unhappy with several things. Democrats need to give the voters a viable choice. Simple as that. Put up a conservative Democrat, and he wins.
 

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You had to know you were putting it on a tee when you wrote this.

In the administration of George W. Bush, the Republican Party has achieved the greatest combination of idiocy and evil in human history.
This author loses open-minded people right here. Awful opening paragraph.

The Republicans have bogged America down in a gratuitous and illegal war. The war has destroyed Iraq, killed between 650,000 and 1,000,000 Iraqi civilians, displaced 4,000,000 Iraqis, and littered the country with depleted uranium. Bush?s war remains unwon despite its five year duration and $1 trillion in out-of-pocket and incurred future costs.
The estimate on the number of Iraqi civilians killed is STAGGERING. Good thing they can vote now, eh Wayne?

Bush?s invasion of Iraq is a war crime under the Nuremberg standard, a direct counterpart to Hitler?s invasion of Poland. Both were based on lies and deception, and the declared reasons for both were masks for secret agendas.
This is the part that always drives me nuts. The fact that GW lied about why we were going over there, and lies again about why we stayed seems to get passed over by are so-called liberal media. Conservative bias?

Bush?s invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq, his planned attack on Iran [See Considering a war with Iran: A discussion paper on WMD in the Middle East, PDF], and his support for Israel?s attack on Lebanon and genocidal policies toward the Palestinians have radicalized the Middle East and Muslims worldwide. American and Israeli aggression have vindicated Osama bin Laden?s propaganda, produced massive recruits for Al Qaeda, and unleashed destabilizing forces throughout the Middle East

Bush?s wars are strengthening Islam.

Did Rove mention any of this in the article of fiction he puked out on 8/31/07? Probably forgot that he and GW had riled up an entire religion against us. Should be an important part of his "legacy".

US puppet rulers in Jordan and Pakistan, and even the Saudis and oil emirates, report the ground shaking under their feet. America?s puppet in Pakistan is in trouble, and his difficulties are compounded by US military incursions into Pakistan. The Bush administration is considering contingency plans to seize Pakistan?s nuclear weapons in the event the American puppet is overthrown, delusional contingency plans considering the over-stretched US military.
First I've heard about this.....not good.



With American retreat south to Kuwait now potentially cut off, how will the US extract its troops and equipment when American defeat can no longer be denied?
According to the little FOX News video Wayno provided to us, the Iraqi people love us.....I'm sure they will help us. Then again, if they like us around as much as that video suggests, they might try to keep us from leaving.....It will work itself out, just like this well-planned war.

The Bush administration and its politicized military are already blaming the failure of "the surge" on Iran. Iran is alleged to be training and arming Iraqis who resist the US occupation. Bush has said he will hold Iran responsible. There is abundant evidence that the Bush administration is preparing yet another illegal attack on a Muslim country without assessing the consequences.
If GW attacks Iran we're going to be screwed unlikethis country has ever been before. VietNam will be a mere footnote in history. This will become the debacle toend all debacles.

Many of the administration?s most evil members?Wolfowitz, Feith, Libby, Rumsfeld, Rove, and Gonzales?have been discarded as the tragedy deepens, but Cheney remains ensconced as does the moron in the White House. Before they fall, Bush and Cheney will bring more sorrow to the world and more shame to Americans.
I think Bush and Cheney have at least one more evil card to play....should be interesting to see what they choose to do....if not scary.
 

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I'm no GW fan. I've been very unhappy with several things. Democrats need to give the voters a viable choice. Simple as that. Put up a conservative Democrat, and he wins.

It doesn't matter who they put up As long as a D is next to there name you guys are not gonna vote for them. Same old rhetoric about choices. Put up a conservative? They are more conservative then the last three deficit and debt raising republicans. Just because they say they are conservative doesn't mean they are.
 

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Do you guys really think your world is taking a 180 if a Dem is sitting at 1600?

No but we wouldn't have went to Iraq and that is one huge difference. This war on terrorism actually might have been fought the right way instead of breeding more terrorist like this asshole has caused. Plus the fact that most everyone was gaining wealth under Clinton instead of a select few wasn't all that bad either.
 

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"Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity. "
George Carlin

Takes a former 60's hippy/comedian to simplify this BS war in to one sentence.....
Republicans add Fear and Confusion(and Lying) and presto we are in Iraq for 5 years with over 3600 dead American soldiers and over 20,000 wounded and no end in sight...

Little know Fact; Over 80% of US casualties have occurred after the fall of Saddam.
WHERE IS OUR EXIT STRATEGY???
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I'm still paying my bills, Sponge........and haven't had too many raises over the last eight years, either.

People always bitch about what a shitty deal they are getting. I'm telling you, no one has gotten a "good deal" in 40 fukking years! Been a pretty good mix of shit in the white house over that time span. But, we don't have a nation walking the streets yet, either.

All in all, we each keep moving along our designated path, regardless of the twat sitting at the helm of this garbage scow.

Problem is, for you anyway, you want a democrat to "give you" your "wealth", rather than "take your wealth" under a republican.

And you're right. That won't happen with a republican sitting there.
 

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Problem is, for you anyway, you want a democrat to "give you" your "wealth", rather than "take your wealth" under a republican.

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I don't want anyone to give me anything slick but i don't want people setting policies to screw others (rotten one sided trade deals, going into Iraq and blowing a trillion dollars of our tax money, giving tax breaks to people who don't need it which is also blowing our tax dollars.)and we know which party does this the best, and since you havent noticed, maybe its a good thing you sit on the sideline. Did i tell you as of right now im voting for a Republican? This would be a real bonafide Republican with some principles unlike these frauds in there today. Why not tonight get a bag of chips and you can sit and watch Fox news explain to you how Democrats want everyone to expect a hand out, and republicans are just super hard workers, oh and please don't forget the sheep dip to go along with the chips.
 

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I don't care who you vote for, remember? It doesn't fuking matter! Keep thinking it does.

Get out there and vote..........that's noble work you're doing there.
 
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