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Mags

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So what? No wrongdoing has been shown. Maybe, maybe not.

I dunno, this kinda looks like wrong doing to me, based on state law...

From the liberal rag called the Journal-Sentinel:

A second administrator from the University of Wisconsin Green Bay rejoined the university after retiring last spring, and is now collecting a six-figure salary along with a $44,000 pension, according to a report on the website of the Green Bay Press Gazette.

The paper says Associate Provost Timothy Sewall retired from his job in March ? when the Legislature was reducing benefits for public employees ? and was hired back a month later to his $110,000 position.

Officials say it's legal for a state retiree to take another job or to be rehired by his or her former employer ? though state regulations require they be gone at least 30 days, and prohibits reaching a rehiring deal before leaving the position, The Associated Press has reported.

The Press Gazette quotes an aide to state Rep. Steve Nass (R-Whitewater) as saying messages from co-workers indicated they expected him back soon.

But the paper quoted Sewall as saying, ?There is no evidence I did not follow state policy. I retired because I thought my benefits would be at risk. No one was sure what was going to happen under the governor?s budget-repair bill.?

The AP has been reporting about the departure of UWGB Vice Chancellor Tom Maki, who retired in mid-March and was hired back a month later. Documents obtained by the AP indicate officials had a contract ready to rehire him days before he officially announced his resignation, the news service reported
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I dunno, this kinda looks like wrong doing to me, based on state law...

From the liberal rag called the Journal-Sentinel:
So the Journal-Sentinel is a "liberal rag"? :142smilie

But I agree that this kind of double-dipping is wrong.

Mags, are you willing to admit that it's a shady practice in the private sector as well? :shrug:
 

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So the Journal-Sentinel is a "liberal rag"? :142smilie

But I agree that this kind of double-dipping is wrong.

Mags, are you willing to admit that it's a shady practice in the private sector as well? :shrug:

Don't know any company I've worked at, or been associated with, where this type of thing could even occur......

But I'm not looking to game the system, as many people in life are.

But I do feel it is always easy to game a system run by the government. Look at all the child care "providers" in WI - and the money they made in those scams.

The government has no quality control - and only finds this stuff when the media points it out to them.

Which is exactly why the government shouldn't run any more than it absolutely has to. Which, of course, is why Obamacare is, and will continue to be, a disaster.

CLASS act, anyone? :mj07:
 

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Don't know any company I've worked at, or been associated with, where this type of thing could even occur......

But I'm not looking to game the system, as many people in life are.
Lemme get this straight... you're saying that double-dipping doesn't occur in the private sector??? :shrug:
 

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Lemme get this straight... you're saying that double-dipping doesn't occur in the private sector??? :shrug:

I read your double dipping comment as "a person retires from a company, starts collecting a pension immediately from that company, then gets rehired as an employee, while still collecting that pension".

Not where I ever worked. I've never really investigated this issue, as I always assumed that once you returned to work at that company, the pension payouts would stop until you were in retired status again.

Clearly, it doesn't work that way in the public sector.
 

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I read your double dipping comment as "a person retires from a company, starts collecting a pension immediately from that company, then gets rehired as an employee, while still collecting that pension".

Not where I ever worked. I've never really investigated this issue, as I always assumed that once you returned to work at that company, the pension payouts would stop until you were in retired status again.

Clearly, it doesn't work that way in the public sector.
So you don't believe the practice of retiring, then being hired as a "contractor" or a "consultant" while collecting a pension ever occurs in the private sector?

Like I said, I'm not defending the practice in the public sector. I think it's wrong.
 

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So you don't believe the practice of retiring, then being hired as a "contractor" or a "consultant" while collecting a pension ever occurs in the private sector?

Like I said, I'm not defending the practice in the public sector. I think it's wrong.

Not saying it is right in either situation, but hiring someone back as a contractor rather than rehiring as an employee (and paying pension) is a much different situation.

Contractors don't get any benefits - which saves typically 30-40% of the markup to wages on total compensation.

Getting rehired as an employee - when you have a reemployement agreement prior to leaving, as a way to screw taxpayers, is a much different thing.
 
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