MORE UNION EXTORTION

[PRO190]

WHEN WILL YOU UNION APOLOGIST GET A CLUE UNIONS ARE ONLY EXTORTIONIST OF THE WORKER!

Detroit Teacher's Union Wants to Fire 70 Teachers
05/08/2009 - 11:45
I was initially surprised when I saw a report on EIA Online that the Detroit Federation of Teachers is working to terminate 70 teachers in their district. What did these teachers do? Were they just poor teachers? Did they commit a criminal act? Was it an administrator just being arbitrary in their evaluations?

Nope, none of those. These teachers are guilty of an even worse crime. They're late on their union dues. This is from their union's newsletter

?I can?t remember every employee I hired, but I remember all the ones I fired,? a former boss once told me. Although the union fights to save jobs for teachers, we are in the unfortunate position of having to notify 70 teachers that they may be terminated for nonpayment of union dues.
Paying union dues, or alternatively agency shop fees, is a condition of your employment. Occasionally, the district makes a mistake and fails to withhold the correct amount of dues. When this happens, we send an invoice to the member for the amount of dues owed.
When members do not fulfill their responsibility to pay their dues, we are in an unfortunate position. We have to notify the district that employment will be terminated in 35 days if the delinquent dues are not paid.
So while many unions claim there is no such thing as a bad teacher, the Detroit Federation of Teachers apparently believes there are deadbeat teachers and they should be fired. In my mind, something is wrong with this picture. If the district were attempting to fire these teachers, the union would be yelling about how it would hurt students or that these tireless professionals deserved better treatment. This just seems like an example of the union's efforts to put its own self-interest ahead of student or teachers needs.

 

[Skulnik]

You can't make this shit up.


:00hour

 

[Lumi]

You Racist Pro :mj07:

 

[The Sponge]

Pay ur fuking dues it is that simple and im sure they are not that much. Sounds like dead beat teachers to me. Would the cable company let ya off the hook for not paying ur bill? How about the electric company? U union haters are so fukin brainwashed u could pass anything by ya. Unions are killing the country :mj07: :mj07: :mj07: all ten percent of them. If only unions could take back money from every asshole that benefitted from them it would be a much nicer world.

 

[The Sponge]

Now i have been out of my union for almost ten years and still pay my dues. 24 dollars a month wow. For the great benefits they have negoiated for me it is chump change. Almost ready to make my return and since my dues are all paid up the door will be wide open.

 

[ssd]

Sponge:
Why are you "making your return"?

 

[The Sponge]

Sponge:
Why are you "making your return"?

A long complicated story. Probably 10 reason on why. Maybe later i will get into it. Im getting bored with what i do now.

 

[Duff Miver]

Nope, none of those. These teachers are guilty of an even worse crime. They're late on their union dues.
Paying union dues, or alternatively agency shop fees, is a condition of your employment.

Good. Boot them if they don't pay.

 

[PRO190]

Pay ur fuking dues it is that simple and im sure they are not that much. Sounds like dead beat teachers to me. (1)Would the cable company let ya off the hook for not paying ur bill? How about the electric company? U union haters are so fukin brainwashed u could pass anything by ya. Unions are killing the country :mj07: :mj07: :mj07: all ten percent of them. If only unions could take back money from every asshole that benefitted from them it would be a much nicer world.
(2)Now i have been out of my union for almost ten years and still pay my dues. 24 dollars a month wow. For the great benefits they have negoiated for me it is chump change. Almost ready to make my return and since my dues are all paid up the door will be wide open.

(1)Cable and Electric Companies DO NOT FORCE ME TO USE THEIR SERVICES!!!!!!!!!!

(2)$264 x 10yrs = $2640
I'm sure the Union Suits Enjoy Your Contribution all the Way to Their Next Convention in Vegas on Your Dime.. :142smilie WTF is Wrong with You :facepalm:

Good. Boot them if they don't pay.

Good. Break Your Legs if You Don't Pay.. Tony Soprano
Hmm Familiar...More of the Same Extortion and Thuggery!!

 

[Chadman]

Pro, if you were a member of a union, how would you feel about this? Or, say, a member of a gun club, or an electric cooperative, where someone didn't pay their dues, or pay their bill? Union members have benefited from their union participation, they have an obligation to pay their dues. They signed on for the job, expecting to benefit from union participation, and they knew they needed to be a part of one to take the job.

Not paying their fair share - seems to me - would be something a conservative would not find acceptable. They certainly don't in any other area of society of late.

 

[The Sponge]

This jackasses only opinions about unions are the garbage Fox News feeds him. The same Fox news who know very well that unions wouldn't give one dam red cent to a back breaking family wages republican. To say they go to Vegas on my dime is hilarious. Like they do nothing out there but party. Every quarter if i chose to go to my meeting, they throw out a terrific spread and all the drinks you could drink. Not the same guys go to conventions. They are voted on. These union haters all seem to know a lot about unions but actually know jack shit except what they hear from a bunch of con men who know they can con these nitwits. Unions are bad. Teachers wagers are to high, but to these assholes Wall Streeters deserved their bonuses and the oil companies right now are winning their war to keep their welfare checks pumping in while they make record profits. Honestly it is amazing that any of us make over 5 dollars an hour with easily con nitwits like this jackoff spouting his nonsense. Middle class people fighting about how much unions (their fellow citizens) make. Ya just can't make it up. Where is that video where the Fox News assholes were slamming the teachers for making to much and then out of the other side of their mouths, sympathizing for the Wall Street bankers and not getting their bonus checks?

 

[PRO190]

Pro, if you were a member of a union, how would you feel about this? Or, say, a member of a gun club, or an electric cooperative, where someone didn't pay their dues, or pay their bill? Union members have benefited from their union participation, they have an obligation to pay their dues. They signed on for the job, expecting to benefit from union participation, and they knew they needed to be a part of one to take the job.

Not paying their fair share - seems to me - would be something a conservative would not find acceptable. They certainly don't in any other area of society of late.

If I were a member of a Union that DID NOT REQUIRE ME TO BE A MEMBER then I would pay the Dues I signed an agreement to pay.
If I had a Job that REQUIRED I PAY UNION DUES I would not pay the dues if I believe it is not in my best interest to support the Union that is EXTORTING MONEY FROM ME.. ie: NO DUES NO JOB!!!!!!

Let me tell you a little story about UNIONS & their B.S. it's all about the Member:
I have a Good friend that was going through some tough financial times and he was a member of the IBEW..Been out of work for almost 2yrs : Didn't pay his dues as he had to pay Child Support for his 2 children (I have helped him financially as well)or go to the klink for nonpayment..
The UNION TOOK AWAY HIS IBEW PENSION THAT HE HAD 22YRS INVESTED IN for NonPayment and will NEVER GET IT BACK EVEN WHEN HE PAYS HIS DUES UP...

He just started his own company a little while back with 2 other guys that are fed up with the Union and now they are taking a lot of work away from the Union with Quality Work at a Fair Price!:00hour

That should just about cover the Union Facade!

I'm Lucky the Economic downturn didn't reach me as it did him but when he told me what the Union had done it just reinforced my view on their motives.....

 

[Chadman]

If I were a member of a Union that DID NOT REQUIRE ME TO BE A MEMBER then I would pay the Dues I signed an agreement to pay.
If I had a Job that REQUIRED I PAY UNION DUES I would not pay the dues if I believe it is not in my best interest to support the Union that is EXTORTING MONEY FROM ME.. ie: NO DUES NO JOB!!!!!!

So, I draw two common sense things from this response. First, you do realize why paying dues when you sign an agreement to pay is important. It's only fair to the other members of the union. And it's fair, since you benefit greatly from being a part of the union.

Second, the job that requires you to pay union dues is contingent upon being a part of the union. You take the job, fully knowing that. If you don't LIKE that, then you don't take the job. SIMPLE. Get out of the way, plenty of others will take the job and be damn happy about it. You don't take a mandatory dues paying position with the intent of not paying dues because they are "extorting" you. How are they "extorting" you if you agree to the scenario in the first place?

And you preach responsibility in here? What a joke.

 

[PRO190]

So, I draw two common sense things from this response. First, you do realize why paying dues when you sign an agreement to pay is important. It's only fair to the other members of the union. And it's fair, since you benefit greatly from being a part of the union.

Second, the job that requires you to pay union dues is contingent upon being a part of the union. You take the job, fully knowing that. If you don't LIKE that, then you don't take the job. SIMPLE. Get out of the way, plenty of others will take the job and be damn happy about it. You don't take a mandatory dues paying position with the intent of not paying dues because they are "extorting" you. How are they "extorting" you if you agree to the scenario in the first place?

And you preach responsibility in here? What a joke.

You can twist my words any way you want..
It is important to pay dues if I signed a contract to do so as I should honor a contract.But IT WAS MY CHOICE TO SIGN THAT CONTRACT and be a part of the Union. I would never sign a contract that forces me to pay dues to extortionist and so I am EXCLUDED from that job opportunity which should be a crime!
It's not that hard to understand!
Why should I be restricted from employment at a specific occupation that I am qualified for because a nonessential entity wants to EXTORT MONEY FROM ME FOR THE RIGHT TO WORK AT THAT EMPLOYER!!!!
If they are so confident in their Union value then I would surely join their Union correct. Then LET ME MAKE the CHOICE !
I'll negotiate my own deal!
As soon as Wisconsins Title 10 goes into effect Union membership will look like the Titanic going down:142smilie
GET OUT of MY WAY and LET ME MAKE MY OWN WAY..
The JOKE is people like you that depend on others to entitle your lame ass to levels of compensation that your abilities will never deserve!

 

[Trampled Underfoot]

You can twist my words any way you want..
It is important to pay dues if I signed a contract to do so as I should honor a contract.But IT WAS MY CHOICE TO SIGN THAT CONTRACT and be a part of the Union. I would never sign a contract that forces me to pay dues to extortionist and so I am EXCLUDED from that job opportunity which should be a crime!
It's not that hard to understand!
Why should I be restricted from employment at a specific occupation that I am qualified for because a nonessential entity wants to EXTORT MONEY FROM ME FOR THE RIGHT TO WORK AT THAT EMPLOYER!!!!
If they are so confident in their Union value then I would surely join their Union correct. Then LET ME MAKE the CHOICE !
I'll negotiate my own deal!
As soon as Wisconsins Title 10 goes into effect Union membership will look like the Titanic going down:142smilie
GET OUT of MY WAY and LET ME MAKE MY OWN WAY..
The JOKE is people like you that depend on others to entitle your lame ass to levels of compensation that your abilities will never deserve!

He'll negotiate his own deal. :mj07:

So if I might jump to a conclusion here, he wants to use the wage scale of the people already there to negotiate without paying for the negotiation that went on for years to get those wages. This is classic.

:facepalm:

 

[bleedingpurple]

He'll negotiate his own deal. :mj07:

So if I might jump to a conclusion here, he wants to use the wage scale of the people already there to negotiate without paying for the negotiation that went on for years to get those wages. This is classic.

:facepalm:

It really is difficult to read neocon banter. Negotiating for yourself worked real well. :facepalm: I think we should go back to 16 hour days at minimum salary. Hell Mags would do it, He is more than willing to work 60 hours a week for a salaried position.
Could you imagine what would be happening if we did not have unions who fought for fair labor standards?

Pity Really. JMHO

 

[Trench]

Where is that video where the Fox News assholes were slamming the teachers for making to much and then out of the other side of their mouths, sympathizing for the Wall Street bankers and not getting their bonus checks?

You mean the one where the Foxheads are defending extending the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy and Foxhead Tracy Byrnes says "You try living on $250,000 for a family of four these days. That's almost the poverty level."

Is that the one you mean? :mj07: :142smilie

 

[Trampled Underfoot]

It really is difficult to read neocon banter. Negotiating for yourself worked real well. :facepalm: I think we should go back to 16 hour days at minimum salary. Hell Mags would do it, He is more than willing to work 60 hours a week for a salaried position.
Could you imagine what would be happening if we did not have unions who fought for fair labor standards?

Pity Really. JMHO

I remember years ago when I was on this one interview and I asked about vacation. This dick asked me why that was important. I told him that I work to live, not live to work. After that I said that I told him that I had no interest in working for him and left. He called me back later that day but he never got a response.

 

[Mags]

It really is difficult to read neocon banter. Negotiating for yourself worked real well. :facepalm: I think we should go back to 16 hour days at minimum salary. Hell Mags would do it, He is more than willing to work 60 hours a week for a salaried position.
Could you imagine what would be happening if we did not have unions who fought for fair labor standards?

Pity Really. JMHO

BP - 60 hours a week was pretty much the norm for 17 years.... you'd have a few 50 hour ones in there, and also some 70's...

You'd be shocked at how many salaried professionals put in that type of time today... more than you think. And I doubt you'd find many that would bitch about it - you pretty much know that will be the case when you take the job, due to the demands and stress.

I'm certainly not complaining, but I do laugh at those who balk about working more than 35 hours a week (and there are some folks out there that do)

 

[The Sponge]

He'll negotiate his own deal. :mj07:

So if I might jump to a conclusion here, he wants to use the wage scale of the people already there to negotiate without paying for the negotiation that went on for years to get those wages. This is classic.

:facepalm:

That is my problem with these shitbags who cry about unions. Most of them don't realize that it was because of unions that they have benefits. They think they got them on their own. You can't fix stupid.