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Can't believe they lost that game. ISU tried to give them the game numerous times, but they didn't want it. That last ISU drive was pathetic. INT with less than 3 to go, and they essentially take a knee on 3 straight plays to give Nebraska the ball back with 2:00, only needing 3 to win. Conservative playcalling like that kills me. Good for ISU for winning, but that playcalling was atrocious.
How does a team only lose by 2 pts when they lose the turnover battle by 8? :mj07: :mj07: :scared
Quagmire....what did you expect Iowa State to do on that last drive???
They scored 7 points all day and pretty sure that came off a big trick play to set it up.
Had to run clock and make Neb use their 2 timeouts and not risk an INT. Yeah its conservative, but its also very smart.
Nebraska should have EASILY covered as well.
They scored 7 points all day and pretty sure that came off a big trick play to set it up.
Had to run clock and make Neb use their 2 timeouts and not risk an INT. Yeah its conservative, but its also very smart.
Nebraska should have EASILY covered as well.
Hudson, I had them too. Amazing. I think they fumbled inside the 5 FOUR TIMES. One of them may have been an INT that was not controlled, not sure.
Ridiculous game but glad ISU won if Neb not cover...
Ridiculous game but glad ISU won if Neb not cover...
Try to pick up a first down to put the game away? :shrug: Personally, I think your objective should be to NOT let the other team get the ball back and beat you with a FG. I'm not saying pass the ball every down, but 3 straight dive plays is way too conservative, IMO. Sure, they got Nebraska to use their timeouts, but they also gave Nebraska the ball back with 2 minutes to go only needing a FG to win.
This time it worked out, but how many times have you seen the home team get the ball back and find a way to march the ball down the field and win the game with a FG? Had that happened, everyone would be second guessing the playcalling, but because Nebraska choked nobody mentioned it.
You can always 2nd guess but they played it the best way possible. They put them inside the 20 with under 2 minutes and no timeouts.
If they get sacked or throw in INT or even a holding penalty....any of that and Nebraska probably wins.
I can see it in other games but Neb defense dominated them all day. I think the odds were very low of them picking it up and no need to risk so many bad things.
Believe me...watching it, I thought Neb was going to come down and win on a FG. But at least make them earn it...which they did.
I was completely different when ND played Mich and on their last drive I agreed with Weis to go get the 1st down. They have a good offense and if starting receiver was in there, probably would have made the play and won.
I know ISU played it right.
If they get sacked or throw in INT or even a holding penalty....any of that and Nebraska probably wins.
I can see it in other games but Neb defense dominated them all day. I think the odds were very low of them picking it up and no need to risk so many bad things.
Believe me...watching it, I thought Neb was going to come down and win on a FG. But at least make them earn it...which they did.
I was completely different when ND played Mich and on their last drive I agreed with Weis to go get the 1st down. They have a good offense and if starting receiver was in there, probably would have made the play and won.
I know ISU played it right.
I understand the logic to "go get the 1st down" but you can't always do it. Not to mention, they didn't just kneel down. Nebraska stopped their runs like they did all day.
Only thing different I thought of when it happened was maybe a very safe screen on 3rd down, but Neb wasn't blitzing and more than likely would have stopped it anyway....or a sack/fumble/int/incompletion...
Only thing different I thought of when it happened was maybe a very safe screen on 3rd down, but Neb wasn't blitzing and more than likely would have stopped it anyway....or a sack/fumble/int/incompletion...
You're just ASSUMING that if Iowa State had thrown the ball they would have thrown an INT or gotten sacked? How can you know that? Maybe they throw the ball and pick up the first? Or maybe there's a defensive holding or pass INT penalty on Nebraska? Any of those things would have iced the game and not even given Nebraska the chance to get the ball back.
I'm not even saying they had to pass the ball, but dive plays up the gut? You're not even TRYING to pick up the 1st down on those plays. How about spreading the field and letting the athletic QB get out in space? Even if those plays don't work, you make Nebraska use their timeouts or the clock runs. Still pretty conservative plays, but you're at least giving yourself a chance to get the 1st.
I totally understand your argument. They didn't want to make a mistake that would cost them the game after fighting their asses off for 58 minutes. If Nebraska had, say, 1 timeout left, I might agree with the conservative playcalling. Then they would have to go over 50 yards to get into FG range, with only a little over a minute to play. But with 2 minutes to go, I think it was a huge gamble. And let's also not forget that timeouts are a different story in college, because the clock stops on every first down.
It worked out for ISU this time. But like I said, a lot of times teams lose by just sitting on the ball at the end of the game like that.
I'm not even saying they had to pass the ball, but dive plays up the gut? You're not even TRYING to pick up the 1st down on those plays. How about spreading the field and letting the athletic QB get out in space? Even if those plays don't work, you make Nebraska use their timeouts or the clock runs. Still pretty conservative plays, but you're at least giving yourself a chance to get the 1st.
I totally understand your argument. They didn't want to make a mistake that would cost them the game after fighting their asses off for 58 minutes. If Nebraska had, say, 1 timeout left, I might agree with the conservative playcalling. Then they would have to go over 50 yards to get into FG range, with only a little over a minute to play. But with 2 minutes to go, I think it was a huge gamble. And let's also not forget that timeouts are a different story in college, because the clock stops on every first down.
It worked out for ISU this time. But like I said, a lot of times teams lose by just sitting on the ball at the end of the game like that.
Oh I was just being a smartass when I said "kneeled." I know they ran the ball. I just meant the run plays were so conservative they may as well have taken a knee.
I knew you were just kidding about "kneeled".
Obviously you don't know what would happen. I'm just saying its tough to risk anything there, especially on a good defense that you've done nothing against.
Every situation is different so I don't agree with being this conservative every time.
My dad was the most conservative coach in history and he won a lot but there are times I don't agree with him.
After the INT and before ISU's last drive, given the time and timeout situation and the way the game had gone....I figured no matter what happened, Neb would get the ball back and at least get a FG attempt. I was just hoping they'd at least have to have a long drive to do it.
They got a decent punt too, but I'm sure they were hoping to put it inside the 10.
With the VERY conservative running calls...I have to believe ISU decided to either go get it or play very conservative and nothing in between....and of course went with the latter.
Gooogity, gooogity.
Obviously you don't know what would happen. I'm just saying its tough to risk anything there, especially on a good defense that you've done nothing against.
Every situation is different so I don't agree with being this conservative every time.
My dad was the most conservative coach in history and he won a lot but there are times I don't agree with him.
After the INT and before ISU's last drive, given the time and timeout situation and the way the game had gone....I figured no matter what happened, Neb would get the ball back and at least get a FG attempt. I was just hoping they'd at least have to have a long drive to do it.
They got a decent punt too, but I'm sure they were hoping to put it inside the 10.
With the VERY conservative running calls...I have to believe ISU decided to either go get it or play very conservative and nothing in between....and of course went with the latter.
Gooogity, gooogity.
Agreed. The first thing I said, out loud, after the ISU INT was... how many timeouts does Nebraska have? That's the funny thing... I knew ISU would just run the ball 3 straight times. It's not that their playcalling surprised me. I expected them to be ultra-conservative.
And you're right, they hadn't done anything all day on offense, so nobody can be surprised that they left it up to their defense. It worked out for them. I'm glad they won... I like seeing huge underdogs win. And after getting screwed on Nebraska -7 2h last week, I wasn't exactly broken up to see them lose outright.
No I think many were saying ALABAMA was the # 1 !
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All we heard last year and thru out the summer is how Nebraska is back-Big Red is Back. Look at thier offense the last two games-no rushing-QB who throws int--thought they were going ot start a new QB today-should have. I always like to see Big Red get beat-2 in a row and both at home-ouch. They are back all right!
hawkeye....did you watch ANY of the game???
Yeah they did lose but they should have scored 40. Not sure I've ever seen a game like this. It wasn't 8 regular turnovers. Half of them or more were guys getting stripped on their way down in crowds inside the 5-yard line.
I think they gave one fumble away to ISU on Neb's 15 and after a 15-yd penalty...put it back on the 30...and ISU still didn't score.
Neb dominated every aspect of the game and should have won by at least 30 points.
I think they are going to be a dangerous team last part of the year. They are very close.
Yeah they did lose but they should have scored 40. Not sure I've ever seen a game like this. It wasn't 8 regular turnovers. Half of them or more were guys getting stripped on their way down in crowds inside the 5-yard line.
I think they gave one fumble away to ISU on Neb's 15 and after a 15-yd penalty...put it back on the 30...and ISU still didn't score.
Neb dominated every aspect of the game and should have won by at least 30 points.
I think they are going to be a dangerous team last part of the year. They are very close.
Losing to ISU after that debacle last week vs Texas Tech is NOT ACCEPTABLE...............
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