News Item: Canada- "We're Out"

[selkirk]

posted by an expert on Canada who lives in Texas,


"Canada isn't even a real country, it is Officially the Dominion of Canada, and
that's a legal term meaning it has the authority to self-govern, but should the Queen decide at any time she doesn't like the way Canadians are doing things, she can overrride any Canadian law, or replace the government."

WRONG. The Queen is a figure head, just like the Govenor General is who represent the Queen at functions when the Queen is not in the Country. He/She is appointed by the Prime Minister.

To be law in Canada it must be passed by the Elected parliament.....Canada has its own Constitution. perphaps you should read it again before you enlighten more of your views about Canada. No law passed by Britain or decree from the Queen can influence the country. Can you point to the phrase in the Canadian Constitution that give the Queen the power to over throw the elected government at any time she cares to....

Canada has a flag, Constitution. a colony.....yikes. by the way it can be argued that before our constitution, Canada became a Country after World War 1, when the acting PM made sure Canada sign the peace treaty as in independant country. After Vimy and the huge loss of life lost in WW 1 Canada earned that, before Britain would declare war we would join automatically. In WW2 Canada was not in the war when Britain declared war but only when Canada declared war on the Axis powers.

some Colony

thanks
selkirk

 

[DR STRANGELOVE]

Re: well

Re: well

...Canada isn't even a real country, it is Officially the Dominion of Canada, and that's a legal term meaning it has the authority to self-govern, but should the Queen decide at any time she doesn't like the way Canadians are doing things, she can overrride any Canadian law, or replace the government. When the DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED Australian parliament chose as Prime Minister Gough Whitlam, he decided that he wasn't going to let the Queen of England run rough-shod over Australians ability to best decide what is best for themselves, but she didn't like that and she replaced him, with no election, and that was that. It can and will someday happen in Canada.

"Americans are benevolently ignorant about Canada, while Canadians are malevolently well informed about the United States."
-J. Bartlett Brebner

 

[StevieD]

Gardenweasel, yes, I would still be against the war if Clinton or Gore was the President. I would like to think that things would not have gotten this far.

In fact, I pray that the soldiers of Iraq realize they do not have a chance of winning and somehow throw down their weapons or Saddam gives it up before one bomb is set off or one life lost.

That would make Bush a real hero in everyones eyes as he would of pulled off the greatest standoff since Kennedy..

Now, let me ask you a question. If Bush got a BJ would you spend millions of dollars and split the country in half to find out?

 

[gardenweasel]

stevie

stevie

i keyed a long response and hit the wrong key....:shrug: ......but,in short,i agree with you 100%....a total witchhunt and in my opinion,much more embarrassing to the republican extremists than to clinton....hard to believe that amount of effort and resources were wasted on a non-issue...

my point was that both sides seem to follow party lines blindly,disregarding independent thought most times.....everything breaks down into extremes....i was disappointed and pissed at tom daschle`s scathing comments aimed at bush....not a good time for political b.s. with american troops poised to fight a war.....but,on the other hand,dick gephardt puts the rhetoric aside and has weighed in for support of the troops....it`s not the time to be bomb throwing in an attempt to make political hay...he`s not changing anybody`s mind at this point in the game...it was probably politically stupid and i think he`ll pay a price.........

i am neither republican or democrat....i`m a middle of the road guy and i side politically with what i believe in...i make that decision....i wish we had a third,more moderate party in the mix.....it will never happen,though....

i wish i wasn`t the only one that saw the cinemax documentary on north korea tonight....it was absolutely scary......that a society can be soooo closed off from the rest of the world....that believe their leaders are almost other-worldly....it was so strange,it was hard to accept....i want to know more about n.korea....but,not many people know very much....i mean,it was unbelievable...

 

[AR182]

Gardenweasel,

I agree with your last post 100%. I am similar to you, a moderate. I am a registered independent, & my politics depends on the issue. I also agree that it was wrong what the Republicans did to Clinton, eventhough he made the President's position look bad.They still should not have humiliated the Presidency. It's funny I dislike Clinton more since he left office then when he was in office.

 

[ferdville]

Stevie - Where have you been in the last 5 years? You'd like to think if Clinton was president things wouldn't have gotten this far? Were you breathing when he bombed Iraq in 1998? Or did that slip your memory? Since that obviously didn't work, what would Clinton have done - forgotten about it? Let's get serious here. Few people complained, and rightly so, when Clinton bombed Iraq. I totally agreed with it. Now, it is time to finish the job. I find it so funny that a majority of the anti-war people claim that they are against war because of all the innocent people that have died. That isn't it at all - they are against the very idea of war (which is commendable in part) and the death of innocent people has little or nothing to do with it. Why weren't the Viet Nam protestors railing against Pol Pot and his Khmer Rouge(sp?)? Pot murdered 2 million or more - where were the protestors over the loss of innocent lives then? Now, we are protesting against the innocent lives of Iraqui citizens that will be lost. Why not protest against Saddam for the thousands and thousand of innocent people he has killed? It works both ways. And why did we see no Cambodians protesting Pol Pot? And why do we not see any Iraquis protesting Saddam Hussein? I think we all know the answer to that one. SSD - I enjoyed your cogent points on the subject. Very well said and thought out.

 

[Myron]

To be honest I often feel like I'm living in a dictatorship myself in Canada. For those who don't know Canadian History, Canada generally had 3 main parties in prior to 1990 - the Liberals (currently in charge), the NDP (a socialist bunch with little support outside unions) and the Progressive Conservatives (a more right wing party).

The Liberals and Progressive Conservative's generally exchanged power but for several reason the PC party got decimated in an election under a goofball named Kim Campbell (following Brian Mulroney's 2 terms in power). From this a new ultra right wing party emerged called the Reform Party of Canada later to be the Alliance Party of Canada. They have broad support out west but little elsewhere in the country. The PCs have some support throught Canada but not a lot of support anywhere. Plus we have a bunch of lunatics in Quebec who are a federal party that's only purpose for being is to separate Quebec from Canada.

Anyways, since the split in the right wing, the PC and Alliance party have split the vote in most of Canada and the Liberal party therefore keep winning seats in ridings where they would clearly lose if the vote wasn't split. In fact the Liberals won a majority government last time with just 35% of the vote. But knowing they have this guaranteed job security as long as the right wing will not merge (as almost all Canadians on the right are begging them to do), the Liberal government is doing whatever they please and essentially telling the Canadian public to go f*ck themselves regardless of public sentiment.

This government is the most inept, corrupt party I have ever seen in Canada and there doesn't seem to be a thing we can do about it. To give examples, the Prime Minister used public funds and his own power to give a friend of his a bank loan for a golf course in his own home town. The ministry wasted a billion dollars on a gun registry that did absolutely nothing and which the federal auditors said was a boondoggle of waste and ineptitude. The cost was supposed to be 2 million dollars. They provide grants to anything including a gay rights theatre and our immigration system is a shambles.

Yet despite all the shortcomings the government remains in power because there is no viable alternative right now. Personally if the US set up a coup to take out Chretien I wouldn't be crying any tears, but fortunately the shithead retires in January and I won't apologize for using that term. After all he feels the same way about his own people.

 

[Frogy]

Just wondering what you guys think:

What do you think would have happened in and after the Bay of Pig if Bush son would have been in Kennedy's place?

 

[neverteaseit]

what the hell does the bay of pigs have to do with the gulf war? he wouldn't of had to do anything because russia would have high tailed their ass back home no matter who was in charge

second bush cookies wasn't in charge a crooked kennedy was. pretty boy wasn't as great as everyone believes he was.

3rd if are dam government would have let PATTON roll across europe and into Russia and anywhere else the genious wanted to go, we wouldn't have the problems that we have today!

Sleep well tonight Sadaam. Fear is in the air and it smells like your army. Maybe we put him in a shredder like he has done to so many of his people.

I also hope when this is said and done all you countries with 60's love and peace governments who cry foul and show no support except for your own saving face rally cries get what you deserve when you walk in our shoes for awhile.

 

[RAYMOND]

IS SADDAM SLEEPING WELL AT NIGHT

IS SADDAM SLEEPING WELL AT NIGHT



EVERY DOG GETS IT DAY! AND THE DOG WILL RUNNING BE RUNNING FOR HIS LIFE! RIP SADDAM

 

[ssd]

Guys:
Not to beat a dead horse but you are way off base with the whole Clinton Blowjob thing. I could care less that the guy got a blowjob in the Oval Office. More power to him. THe fact of the matter is, he stared straight into the camera and lied to the American people. He is a public servant; I am paying his salary. And he lied to everyone. Many of my friends and family are or were in the military. When they joined, they took an oath. And they upheld that oath. President Clinton took an oath when he took office. And he failed that oath. The witch hunt about the blowjob was a waste of time and money. The media and the Democrats purposefully pushed the blow-job incident becasue it was more sensational than lying and it wasn't the real issue.
He should have been impeached for lying under oath to a Grand Jury.

 

[gardenweasel]

ssd

ssd

i agree to an extent regarding the lying.....my point is that he shouldn`t have been put into the position of having to lie about a bj.....that was partisan driven b.s....and don`t get me wrong...it sickened me to see the president of the united states using lawyerese to tip toe around the truth....but,it also sickened me that the man was forced to testify about a b.j. between consenting adults.......ugly politics,pure and simple....it made the republicans look foolish and petty....and made the president look like a sleazebag.....and as i said,what did it actually accomplish?......in the middle east killing breeds more killing......in politics,these kinds of shenanigans breeds more partisan b.s.....and let me reiterate...somebody should bank tom daschle...the guy is a useless piece of political s-it......he should take a cue from fellow democatic candidates dick gephardt and joe lieberman and shut his yap and back the troops....there will be plenty of time for recriminations if things don`t go well.....now is not the time...the course is set.....be useful....not divisive....

 

[RAYMOND]

BOTTOM LINE IS US DON'T NEED ANYONE