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Steve I was anly being sarcastic from Eddies comment. I think its pretty evenly divided. I hope that 90% is in the middle somewhere and can be swung in either direction depending on job the the incumbent party does. Competition is good and needed. Keeps both sides on their toes.

 

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----and on wallets shrinking,I think we each have to be responsible for actions we take concerning market. There were many that shorted the market that flourished unfortunately I was not that wise mainly don't have stomach for leveraging and know my limitations on savvy on market,but fortunately I do understand that fact and was lucky to run into a brother from up north by name of Seilkirk who I have had the pleasure of aquaintance before the inception of Madjacks whose writings have kept me ,not unscathed,but in much better shape than most and in pretty good position to recoup if this market turns around.

I do know however not to put all eggs in one basket aka purchasing only stock in company I work for as the risk of losing all is too great,and I feel very bad for those on receiving end of that acenario.

 

[StevieD]

Very true DTB that those smart enough about the market to short it made fortunes. The big question would be why did Greenspan kill the market when he did? And make no mistake about it he did kill it with his interest rate hikes and comments. No doubt it was a phony economy but he hurt a lot of innocent people when he tried to "slow it down." And, I think he should probably be held accountable for letting it get out of control both ways up and down.

 

[AR182]

bush may have problems in the upcoming election because there is a story (forgot where i saw it ) that reports that the religious right might pull out of the republican party because they are unhappy about the white house not coming out in support of santorum(sp?). there seems to be a divide between the religious right & the washington republicans on a few issues. stay tuned.


eddie haskell:"Moderates and left sided people kinda know how scummy it really is with this Administration and with the right side of the aisle".

i am a moderate & many people that i know are moderates & most of them think that the bush administration is doing a very good job with the war on terrorism, & yes iraq is part of that war since it is a terrorist state. of the moderates i know, some are registered democrats & some are republicans. there are some issues that these moderates agree with bush on, & there are some that we disagree with him. each issue is different that is why i cannot understand how intelligent people agree with one party, no matter the issue.


stevie,

yes many people changed their point of view post 9/11. but it doesn't mean that those 70% are conservative on every issue.

btw, i said it then & i will say it again that the terrorists made a big mistake by attacking the us on our soil. they got too cute for their own good because now they have involved the us military, which imo will eventually spell doom for them.

 

[StevieD]

AR182, I agree with a lot of what you have said.
You raise a very good point though. Why did they do such a terrible attack on us. I mean seriously how did they think that we would respond to an attack on our own soil as dramatic as that one and not be forced to respond.
In my opinion our response was a no brainer. That is why I say it doesn't matter if the Olsen Twins were Prresidents we were gonna crush somebody. From a terrorist point of view it didn't make any sense. They could of, and could still, blow up a bridge or a subway here or there or even take down a plane and maybe not have gotten the response they did.
Had they followed up by strategically blowing up a few underground rail stops in financial districts of major cities they could have really crippled us. But they did nothing.
Very strange.

 

[Eddie Haskell]

Munson:

What! No Skyline!!! I prefer my five way beans with extra grease. Next time your in these parts of the bible belt let me know and I'll buy.

You guys have the Tennessean and we have the Enquirer. Enquirer is Gannnett. How bout the Tennessean? Because of this dribble, like my fellows on the right avoiding Dixie Chicks cd's, I do not buy Enquirer or USA Today (aka McNews).

When I do read my local fish wrap, the letters to the editor are similar. Alot of them quote bible verse. I guess in a way I'm jealous. These people have every answer to every question in that book. Thats pretty good security. Reality avoidance but, none the less, comforting.

My good Doctor, never thought I would say this, but very good post. I really don't expect Christians to be perfect, but as I indicated earlier, I have a very hard time with the "...must accept Jesus into your heart...." argument as the only way to salvation.

Seriously, if you can address the Hitler v. Schweitzer question I posed earlier, I would be greatly interested in your position on this. You also bring up an interesting point. What if Jesus came to earth today, 2003, and said he was the son of God. How would he be received?

I can't help but think he would be in a padded room at your local psychiatric hospital. Conversely, what if many of the born again Christians or moral majority members of today were around 2000 years ago. Would they be on the side of their government or would they side with the criminal of the state Jesus Christ?

You know based on the posts of numerous people on this board, I have a feeling that they would not be able to distinguish the son of God from a mentally ill wack job. I have a feeling they would be throwing stones and not crying at the feet of Christ on the cross.

Ferdville and others have accused me of being arrogant. I really am not as I know I have a lot to learn. Frankly, I watched a show on Hussein last night and although I knew he was a horrible human being before, I realized that he was more Stalin like than I had thought.

Still not convinced military action was the way to go as I continue to be suspicious of this Administrations motives, but I gotta say I'm glad he's gone. In law, there is a saying, that if a case does not settle and ends up in a trial, someone has made a mistake. Same thoughts with regard to military action.

Chanman:To illustrate a point you know so well....the former owner of the Reds, Marge Schott referred to Eric Davis as her 3 million dollar niggar about 10 years ago. That is typical, not unusual, of the mentality I see here in the bible belt. If you aren't a white anglo saxon protestant, like my friends the Cleavers, your one of them. Sad that it still exists.

Dogs: Did you know that 42.7% of statistics used to prove a point are made up on the spot (had to borrow that Stephen Wrightism from another thread). Where do you come up with 70%?

My thought, based on the numbers in the last election was that this country is pretty evenly divided between right and left. I do not defend the politics of the left. I agree that both sides have there share of nastiness. My solution as I stated before is meaningfull campaign finance reform so that our elected officials are not bought and sold before they are sworn in.

I attack the current administration because certain members of this board continue to state, in so many words.... how lucky we are to have moral George in office instead of blowjob Bill. That is the hypocrisy that I attack. Like I said, if Bennett had been associated with the left, liberals or democrats, corporate radio (talk) would have been yacking about it from now until November, 2004.

Not so, since he's on the other side. Its mentioned but thats it. No calling for heads like the right does all the time when presented with a faux pas performed by the left. I mean look at how often Clinton is being brought up. Cheesus. I dont bring up 'dddaaaahhhhhdddddeeeee", nor do I talk about Reagans lying under oath in depostion during the Iran Contra stuff.

AR: Still think military intervention will cause an increase in terrorist attacks. Someone brought up a good point in another thread that the easy part of this war is over. Hard part is now. I dont think anyone thought US would have much trouble with those balsa wood airplanes the Iraqis were using to deliver the weapons of mass destruction.

Numerous factions, different religions, different society. We got our work cut out for us. By the way, just heard Waxman on NPR (what else) said theres a lot more to that Haliburton contract (which was not bid on) than just putting out oil well fires. Kinda fishy.

Edward

 

[AR182]

stevie,

i always wondered why they ddn't attack ny subway system also.i have read, but don't know if it's true, that both saddam & bin laden watched the movie "black hawk down" & thought that american troops would be withdrawn once soldiers would start dying. so maybe they thought that they would be able to withstand the first onslaught, they & their crew would survive.

we also don't know where that plane that went down in pa was heading. that may have crippled us if it was headed to the us capital or the white house. we may never know how much those passengers on that plane saved our country.
i also heard that on 9/11, some of alqaeda were going to hijack planes in great britain but didn't because of tightened security.

 

[AR182]

eddie,

your last post was very good, enjoyed reading it. it's accurate that you say that saddam was more stalin then hitler. i have read that he read about & modeled himself after stalin. which is just as scary as modeling himself after hitler.

there is a religious right out here also, but they don't bother me with their views. i tend to turn people off when they start quoting the bible to make a point. i figure let them be what they want to be, just leave me out of it.

 

[Eddie Haskell]

AR:

I dont mind people expressing there views and would hope that you know I am quite for it. I just like to point out the hypocrisy in it.

If Christians say the only way to eternal salvation is through Christ, I gonna take the opposing viewpoint and suggest that such dogma is arrogant.

By the way, did you hear about the new book Salman Rushdie wrote as a follow up to The Satanic Verses. For those of you who do not remember the Aytollah Kohmeni put out a fatwa (hit) on Rushdie after he wrote the book. Any muslim, killing Rushdie, would be a martyr. So there were 2 billion muslims after his but.

His new book......................... Fhuck Buddha.

Eddie

 

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yes Eddie....if you look at the people who were responsible for the crucifixion of Christ, it is the same ones who are here today professing legalism as their doctrine...they are nothign mroe than modern day pharicees and sadducees...

the true doctrine behind Christianity is a "freedom" releasing you from these legalistic rituals.....Bill Bennett has the freedom to gamble as often as he likes...he has a conscience inside that tells him when he may have a problem...he doesn't need the conscience of everyone else telling him if his actions are valid or invalid..Scripture makes it pretty clear about looking past the speck in our own eyes....now if you can't discern the difference in an action like gambling with an illegal activity which is clearly immoral like rape or thievery, then that is obviously where we need some moralists to step in and handle things...there is a difference there.....a conscience would be sick if it did not invalidate such acts....and I believe consciences can get sick

as far as the rest of the doctrine of Christianity....hey it is what it is....you either have faith in Jesus or you don't....He is either God or some big lunatic/liar -- based on the things He proclaimed to be....I guess everyone has to make that decision...

but again I don't think you can criticize Christians as being arrogant if they say that their religion is the only way....that is what Jesus said after all...and if you follow Him, that is what you believe....now this may maek some Christians themselves arrogant -- which is a perversion of the religion -- and is not a true sign of their following of Christ.....IMO Jerry Falwell comes to mind as a classic example of this.....that dude definitely has pride issues...

 

[AR182]

eddie,

i never doubted that you were against people expressing themselves. i kind of figured out that the hypocracy was what pissed you off.

i get pissed at a few things myself, but don't choose to show it on a forum. however, i do show it when i am in conversation with someone in person, which pisses my wife off (lol).