NY Times OpEd: I Am Part of the Resistance Inside the Trump Administration

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Donald Trump: The failing New York Times

In two years, the New York Times has doubled its digital subscriber base. The Times now boasts 2.3 million digital subscribers, 63% more than in 2Q 2016. This quarter, the paper added 93,000 digital-only subscribers, bringing in $83 million in revenue this quarter?a 46% increase over 2Q 2016.


Trump is as dumb as skulnutz :mj07:
 

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You said if you had to vote again, you'd vote for Trump. Either you're happy with him or you're a masochist. If you're saying you're a masochist, I apologize for the misinterpretation.

I have to get back to searching for a candidate. TTYL

That was an exceptional job of taking part of a quote and twisting the ever living hell out of it.
 

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His employees are being convicted of crimes (and implicating him in some of them). His employees are putting out anonymous Op-Eds in the New York Times letting you know that as big a fucking idiot as he is, don't worry, their keeping us safe from him.

One of the greatest journalists ever said he has never seen anything like this and people need to wake up to what's going on.

Penguinfan says he'd vote for him again. Holy shit!
 

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Let's get something clear, Penguin: I don't like Hillary Clinton, but-

If you think she'd be as much of an incompetent POS as Donald Trump, you're beyond help.

Yes, let's be clear, it would be difficult/impossible to be as incompetent as Trump. Hillary would not have taken the country in the direction DJT has, but we would as divided, if not more-so, on the traditional values the right wing still holds to as she would have, without any regret whatsoever, wiped her ass with them as she trampled them into a large pile of shit.

I know you don't like the right wing, even I don't like everything they stand for, but to allow the country to run without rules and declaring that everyone's individual freedoms are of greater value than the whole of our society is a path that you really don't want to go down.


Am I a supporter of Trump as WHN says, of course not, but I'm able to see that Hillary, for different reasons, would have been just as bad if not worse.

I don't think the left was going to nominate anyone but Hillary and I understand the personal situation Biden was dealing with at the time, but, hmmm....doesn't he seem like a pretty damn good choice these days?
 

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Yes, let's be clear, it would be difficult/impossible to be as incompetent as Trump. Hillary would not have taken the country in the direction DJT has, but we would as divided, if not more-so, on the traditional values the right wing still holds to as she would have, without any regret whatsoever, wiped her ass with them as she trampled them into a large pile of shit.

I know you don't like the right wing, even I don't like everything they stand for, but to allow the country to run without rules and declaring that everyone's individual freedoms are of greater value than the whole of our society is a path that you really don't want to go down.


Am I a supporter of Trump as WHN says, of course not, but I'm able to see that Hillary, for different reasons, would have been just as bad if not worse.

I don't think the left was going to nominate anyone but Hillary and I understand the personal situation Biden was dealing with at the time, but, hmmm....doesn't he seem like a pretty damn good choice these days?

Yes, Biden would be a good President, and so would John Kasich (R) or Mitt Romney (R).

But the choice we were given was Clinton/Trump. And now we have elected the larger, smellier pile of shit. And if you can't see that Trump is the most incompetent and dishonest ever, then you'd either wearing blinders or are too stupid to draw air.
 

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Penguin responds: Huh? Duh?

What's the point? WHN just wants to stand back and yell "look at the dumbass!!!!" and ignore any points made. It take two people to have an adult conversation, regarding WHN, I'm one short.


Otherwise, are you really gonna take the stance Hillary would not have managed things from a far left perspective? Really?
 

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What's the point? WHN just wants to stand back and yell "look at the dumbass!!!!" and ignore any points made. It take two people to have an adult conversation, regarding WHN, I'm one short.


Otherwise, are you really gonna take the stance Hillary would not have managed things from a far left perspective? Really?

What Hillary might have done is speculative mental masturbation and not worth a second thought since she is not POTUS.

What is not speculation is that Donald Trump is President.

WHN asked you a direct question to which you can respond with facts about the actions of Donald J. Trump.

The floor is all yours......
 

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LIKE WHAT????? :mj07::mj07::mj07:

(From conservapedia.com)

Traditional values refers to those ideals and values held to be true because of their long history and proven success, in contrast to "progressive values", which are held to be true precisely because they are new. Traditional values include; support for the family and for marriage, support for gun owners (unalienable gun rights enshrined in the Second Amendment) and small business owners (private property versus income redistribution and ObamaCare), and opposition to destructive social experiments such socialism, communism, homosexuality, and promiscuity.

The answer is Jesus Christ -
 

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(From conservapedia.com)

Traditional values refers to those ideals and values held to be true because of their long history and proven success, in contrast to "progressive values", which are held to be true precisely because they are new.

Traditional values include; support for the family and for marriage, support for gun owners (unalienable gun rights enshrined in the Second Amendment) and small business owners (private property versus income redistribution and ObamaCare), and opposition to destructive social experiments such socialism, communism, homosexuality, and promiscuity.

The answer is Jesus Christ -

-How's Don doing on the family front?
-How's Don doing on the marriage front?
-Unalienable gun rights? Look up the meaning of the phrase, please.
-Support for small business is a talking point at best, but okay.
-Private Property versus Income Redistribution - How's that bailout for the farmers fit?
-Traditional values has definitely always stood against Obamacare, lol.
-Opposition to destructive social experiments, lol. First off, who is FOR destructive social experiments? Secondly, why aren't you repealing Medicare/Medicaid, Social Security, etc. Thirdly, homosexuality isn't a social experiment, lol. Finally, Don is the poster child for promiscuity, lol.
 

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What's the point? WHN just wants to stand back and yell "look at the dumbass!!!!" and ignore any points made. It take two people to have an adult conversation, regarding WHN, I'm one short.


Otherwise, are you really gonna take the stance Hillary would not have managed things from a far left perspective? Really?

I see you're still a fucking idiot.
 

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-How's Don doing on the family front?
-How's Don doing on the marriage front?
-Unalienable gun rights? Look up the meaning of the phrase, please.
-Support for small business is a talking point at best, but okay.
-Private Property versus Income Redistribution - How's that bailout for the farmers fit?
-Traditional values has definitely always stood against Obamacare, lol.
-Opposition to destructive social experiments, lol. First off, who is FOR destructive social experiments? Secondly, why aren't you repealing Medicare/Medicaid, Social Security, etc. Thirdly, homosexuality isn't a social experiment, lol. Finally, Don is the poster child for promiscuity, lol.

Whether he improves or weakens the conservative position on any of those issues is really beside the point.

Billionaire, anti-establishment, married three times, casino owner, philanderer, childish, arrogant boor. What more does one need to consider? His campaign promises? MAGA? Were you hoping for someone stately, dignified, presidential? Perhaps a pant-suit wearing, conniving female?

Get real.

We knew what he was like before we voted.

We also knew what she was like before we voted.

That's why he's the president.
 

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Whether he improves or weakens the conservative position on any of those issues is really beside the point.

Is it? Your party is supposed to be based on the traditional values that he represents in no way, shape or fashion. He's the leader of the Republican Party. What a bunch of hypocrites. The evangelicals are the biggest phonies of them all. As soon as one of these douche bags gets busted for cheating on their wife or a little pedophilia they come charging to their defense. Hypocrites and phonies. Welcome to the Republican Party.
 

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Is it? Your party is supposed to be based on the traditional values that he represents in no way, shape or fashion. He's the leader of the Republican Party. What a bunch of hypocrites. The evangelicals are the biggest phonies of them all. As soon as one of these douche bags gets busted for cheating on their wife or a little pedophilia they come charging to their defense. Hypocrites and phonies. Welcome to the Republican Party.


Read the very first post in this thread...

and pay close attention to who posted it.
 

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Like so many others, you're quick to blame evangelicals for their sins and shortcomings.
But you miss the point entirely.
An evangelical is NOT someone who is "holier than thou."
In fact, quite the opposite would be far more accurate.
The term "evangelical" is simply a label for someone who,
at some point in their life, professed a belief that the death of Jesus Christ
on the cross at Calvary and the blood that he shed during that crucifixion,
is the only sacrifice that could remove the penalty of sin.
Immorality, infidelity, rape, murder, pedophilia, sexual sin of every kind imaginable
is nothing new to us. We live immersed in a violent, lustful, wanton, lascivious society.
We know what were like. We know what we're capable of.
Some put up a facade and "appear" to be super-spiritual
and try to hide their sin ("secret sin").
Others keep to themselves, stay rather quiet
and honestly try to make amends (genuine repentance).
Many evangelicals could write best sellers on sexual sin.
The same goes with lying, cheating, stealing, hypocrisy
and every other kind of character defect' you can think of.
As a Christian, I believe in the doctrine of original sin.
I believe that mankind was conceived in sin and there is not one
person on the this planet that is above reproach....politicians included.

Judging an "evangelical" based on some character flaw is laughable.
 

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Like so many others, you're quick to blame evangelicals for their sins and shortcomings.
But you miss the point entirely.
An evangelical is NOT someone who is "holier than thou."
In fact, quite the opposite would be far more accurate.
The term "evangelical" is simply a label for someone who,
at some point in their life, professed a belief that the death of Jesus Christ
on the cross at Calvary and the blood that he shed during that crucifixion,
is the only sacrifice that could remove the penalty of sin.
Immorality, infidelity, rape, murder, pedophilia, sexual sin of every kind imaginable
is nothing new to us. We live immersed in a violent, lustful, wanton, lascivious society.
We know what were like. We know what we're capable of.
Some put up a facade and "appear" to be super-spiritual
and try to hide their sin ("secret sin").
Others keep to themselves, stay rather quiet
and honestly try to make amends (genuine repentance).
Many evangelicals could write best sellers on sexual sin.
The same goes with lying, cheating, stealing, hypocrisy
and every other kind of character defect' you can think of.
As a Christian, I believe in the doctrine of original sin.
I believe that mankind was conceived in sin and there is not one
person on the this planet that is above reproach....politicians included.

Judging an "evangelical" based on some character flaw is laughable.

They are hypocrites and phonies. I think you just helped make my point. Thanks.

I don't think claiming to be a devout believer in ancient teachings should be a badge of honor, but it is what it is. I do have a problem with these same people claiming to be good Christians, then voting for people that are selfish and have no desire to help their fellow man do anything but contribute less to society. The Republicans targeted this demographic a few decades ago and it was a brilliant move politically. Find a large group of people that will willingly vote against their personal best interest.......pretty wild.
 

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They are hypocrites and phonies.

Look in the mirror. WE ARE ALL hypocrites and phonies.

That's my point. Your point? (as you like to call it), was, at best, nebulous and irrelevant.
Truth be told, you never made a point. You post some kind of worthless, uneducated tripe and hope readers will believe your meaningless nonsense. Sorry to inform you, but you're clueless.

(Too bad if I hurt your feelings.)

"...no desire to help their fellow man,..."

Please, spare me! Do you help everyone who asks you to?
If a total stranger knocks on your front door and says, "I'm cold. Let me in," do you just welcome them with open arms? I mean, after all, this is YOUR fellow man.

I'll say one thing about Christians who are sincere in their walk of faith....we have enough sense to have limits and boundaries. For our own lives and for others. We have no problem drawing a line in the sand and telling others what they can and cannot do. Our church welcomes people who want to come and learn about Jesus Christ. If you arrive in the parking lot with your pet python wrapped around your neck, I assure you, you're not going to be able to move very far from your automobile. We police ourselves and we police others. We have to...for good reason. There are both geniuses and idiots on the bell curve. Not everyone acts accordingly. And we do help others...within reason. Just because you SAY you need help, doesn't automatically mean help is coming your way. There are qualifications to every situation. The majority of Christians aren't quite as naieve and gullible as you might think. The Christian population votes republican because there are planks in the republican platform that appeal to us. I'll let you try and figure out what those might be.
 
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