You said if you had to vote again, you'd vote for Trump. Either you're happy with him or you're a masochist. If you're saying you're a masochist, I apologize for the misinterpretation.
I have to get back to searching for a candidate. TTYL
That was an exceptional job of taking part of a quote and twisting the ever living hell out of it.
Let's get something clear, Penguin: I don't like Hillary Clinton, but-
If you think she'd be as much of an incompetent POS as Donald Trump, you're beyond help.
Yes, let's be clear, it would be difficult/impossible to be as incompetent as Trump. Hillary would not have taken the country in the direction DJT has, but we would as divided, if not more-so, on the traditional values the right wing still holds to as she would have, without any regret whatsoever, wiped her ass with them as she trampled them into a large pile of shit.
I know you don't like the right wing, even I don't like everything they stand for, but to allow the country to run without rules and declaring that everyone's individual freedoms are of greater value than the whole of our society is a path that you really don't want to go down.
Am I a supporter of Trump as WHN says, of course not, but I'm able to see that Hillary, for different reasons, would have been just as bad if not worse.
I don't think the left was going to nominate anyone but Hillary and I understand the personal situation Biden was dealing with at the time, but, hmmm....doesn't he seem like a pretty damn good choice these days?
the traditional values the right wing still holds to
LIKE WHAT????? :mj07::mj07::mj07:
Penguin responds: Huh? Duh?
What's the point? WHN just wants to stand back and yell "look at the dumbass!!!!" and ignore any points made. It take two people to have an adult conversation, regarding WHN, I'm one short.
Otherwise, are you really gonna take the stance Hillary would not have managed things from a far left perspective? Really?
LIKE WHAT????? :mj07::mj07::mj07:
(From conservapedia.com)
Traditional values refers to those ideals and values held to be true because of their long history and proven success, in contrast to "progressive values", which are held to be true precisely because they are new.
Traditional values include; support for the family and for marriage, support for gun owners (unalienable gun rights enshrined in the Second Amendment) and small business owners (private property versus income redistribution and ObamaCare), and opposition to destructive social experiments such socialism, communism, homosexuality, and promiscuity.
The answer is Jesus Christ -
What's the point? WHN just wants to stand back and yell "look at the dumbass!!!!" and ignore any points made. It take two people to have an adult conversation, regarding WHN, I'm one short.
Otherwise, are you really gonna take the stance Hillary would not have managed things from a far left perspective? Really?
-How's Don doing on the family front?
-How's Don doing on the marriage front?
-Unalienable gun rights? Look up the meaning of the phrase, please.
-Support for small business is a talking point at best, but okay.
-Private Property versus Income Redistribution - How's that bailout for the farmers fit?
-Traditional values has definitely always stood against Obamacare, lol.
-Opposition to destructive social experiments, lol. First off, who is FOR destructive social experiments? Secondly, why aren't you repealing Medicare/Medicaid, Social Security, etc. Thirdly, homosexuality isn't a social experiment, lol. Finally, Don is the poster child for promiscuity, lol.
Whether he improves or weakens the conservative position on any of those issues is really beside the point.
Is it? Your party is supposed to be based on the traditional values that he represents in no way, shape or fashion. He's the leader of the Republican Party. What a bunch of hypocrites. The evangelicals are the biggest phonies of them all. As soon as one of these douche bags gets busted for cheating on their wife or a little pedophilia they come charging to their defense. Hypocrites and phonies. Welcome to the Republican Party.
Like so many others, you're quick to blame evangelicals for their sins and shortcomings.
But you miss the point entirely.
An evangelical is NOT someone who is "holier than thou."
In fact, quite the opposite would be far more accurate.
The term "evangelical" is simply a label for someone who,
at some point in their life, professed a belief that the death of Jesus Christ
on the cross at Calvary and the blood that he shed during that crucifixion,
is the only sacrifice that could remove the penalty of sin.
Immorality, infidelity, rape, murder, pedophilia, sexual sin of every kind imaginable
is nothing new to us. We live immersed in a violent, lustful, wanton, lascivious society.
We know what were like. We know what we're capable of.
Some put up a facade and "appear" to be super-spiritual
and try to hide their sin ("secret sin").
Others keep to themselves, stay rather quiet
and honestly try to make amends (genuine repentance).
Many evangelicals could write best sellers on sexual sin.
The same goes with lying, cheating, stealing, hypocrisy
and every other kind of character defect' you can think of.
As a Christian, I believe in the doctrine of original sin.
I believe that mankind was conceived in sin and there is not one
person on the this planet that is above reproach....politicians included.
Judging an "evangelical" based on some character flaw is laughable.
They are hypocrites and phonies.
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