NY Times OpEd: I Am Part of the Resistance Inside the Trump Administration

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Look in the mirror. WE ARE ALL hypocrites and phonies.

That's my point. Your point? (as you like to call it), was, at best, nebulous and irrelevant.
Truth be told, you never made a point. You post some kind of worthless, uneducated tripe and hope readers will believe your meaningless nonsense. Sorry to inform you, but you're clueless.

(Too bad if I hurt your feelings.)

"...no desire to help their fellow man,..."

Please, spare me! Do you help everyone who asks you to?
If a total stranger knocks on your front door and says, "I'm cold. Let me in," do you just welcome them with open arms? I mean, after all, this is YOUR fellow man.

I'll say one thing about Christians who are sincere in their walk of faith....we have enough sense to have limits and boundaries. For our own lives and for others. We have no problem drawing a line in the sand and telling others what they can and cannot do. Our church welcomes people who want to come and learn about Jesus Christ. If you arrive in the parking lot with your pet python wrapped around your neck, I assure you, you're not going to be able to move very far from your automobile. We police ourselves and we police others. We have to...for good reason. There are both geniuses and idiots on the bell curve. Not everyone acts accordingly. And we do help others...within reason. Just because you SAY you need help, doesn't automatically mean help is coming your way. There are qualifications to every situation. The majority of Christians aren't quite as naieve and gullible as you might think. The Christian population votes republican because there are planks in the republican platform that appeal to us. I'll let you try and figure out what those might be.

Well, if you're a hypocrite, everyone must be......is that your brilliant line of thinking? Sorry, but I'm walking the walk. I'm an Atheist but I'm more of a Christian in action than most of the Trumptards who think it begins with a claim and ends with a butt in a pew.

Here's a sample of today's Trumptard Christian values....
Love thy neighbor, but don't take a nickle from me to help them.
Love thy neighbor, unless that neighbor is from Mexico.
Be true to each and every one of your wives and mistresses. Marriage is sacred.
Gather thy worldly riches and grab a gun to shoot any threats.
Turn the other cheek, grab your gun, then kill the muthafucker.
Love your enemies, especially if they are Russian or North Korean.

Phonies and hypocrites. At least you admit it.
 

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Well, if you're a hypocrite, everyone must be......is that your brilliant line of thinking? Sorry, but I'm walking the walk. I'm an Atheist but I'm more of a Christian in action than most of the Trumptards who think it begins with a claim and ends with a butt in a pew.

Here's a sample of today's Trumptard Christian values....
Love thy neighbor, but don't take a nickle from me to help them.
Love thy neighbor, unless that neighbor is from Mexico.
Be true to each and every one of your wives and mistresses. Marriage is sacred.
Gather thy worldly riches and grab a gun to shoot any threats.
Turn the other cheek, grab your gun, then kill the muthafucker.
Love your enemies, especially if they are Russian or North Korean.

Phonies and hypocrites. At least you admit it.


Maybe Buddy or one of the other Christians here will tell us how many leper's feet they've washed and how many hungry people they've fed.
 

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Well, if you're a hypocrite, everyone must be......is that your brilliant line of thinking? Sorry, but I'm walking the walk. I'm an Atheist but I'm more of a Christian in action than most of the Trumptards who think it begins with a claim and ends with a butt in a pew.

Here's a sample of today's Trumptard Christian values....
Love thy neighbor, but don't take a nickle from me to help them.
Love thy neighbor, unless that neighbor is from Mexico.
Be true to each and every one of your wives and mistresses. Marriage is sacred.
Gather thy worldly riches and grab a gun to shoot any threats.
Turn the other cheek, grab your gun, then kill the muthafucker.
Love your enemies, especially if they are Russian or North Korean.

Phonies and hypocrites. At least you admit it.


I have difficulty discussing things with you because I believe you have a tendency to confuse the issue. I mean is it Trump or is it Evangelicals? Is it Christian values or Trump's interpretation of what Christian values "should" be? It doesn't take long before it becomes an exercise in futility.

This is post #36. Your post.

"Is it? Your party is supposed to be based on the traditional values that he represents in no way, shape or fashion. He's the leader of the Republican Party. What a bunch of hypocrites. The evangelicals are the biggest phonies of them all. As soon as one of these douche bags gets busted for cheating on their wife or a little pedophilia they come charging to their defense. Hypocrites and phonies. Welcome to the Republican Party.

1. Your party --- Whose party? Trump is as much a republican as I am a brain surgeon. Ever hear the term RINO? Trump is the poster child. He has no loyalty whatsoever to the republican party. Trump is a businessman who ran as a republican because he never would have won the election running as an independent. From what i've read, he would have split the conservative vote and got crushed. Imo, Trump is not a politician.
He is a businessman with an enormous ego and his own ideas of how this country should be run ( I know...we're all frightened).
I am not a republican nor am I a democrat. I am a Christian. I try to follow the teachings of Jesus Christ. I go to church, hang out with others who do the same, read the bible and pray. I voted for Trump because I am pro-life and anti-gay marriage. I also voted for Trump because I am vehemently opposed to Hillary Clinton and her agenda. I also voted for him because I'm very much in favor of conservative appointees to the Supreme Court. Those are MY reasons. Obviously, I cannot speak for all who call themselves Christian, but I can express and attempt to defend my position.

2. He's the leader of the republican party. --- See above. Read the first paragraph.

3. The evangelicals are the biggest phonies of them all. --- Imo, we (religious and non-religious) are all phonies and excuse makers. Personal accountability is rare. Nothing new here.

4. As soon as one of these douche bags gets busted for cheating on their wife or a little pedophilia they come charging to their defense. --- Who got busted and who came to their defense? Just an unsubstantiated general attack on evangelicals. I'm not saying it doesn't or never happened. I'm sure it does. Probably more than either of us will ever know. But you didn't provide any specific information.
 

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I have difficulty discussing things with you because I believe you have a tendency to confuse the issue. I mean is it Trump or is it Evangelicals? Is it Christian values or Trump's interpretation of what Christian values "should" be? It doesn't take long before it becomes an exercise in futility.

The Evangelicals are the oxygen Trump needs to survive. He stands for everything their supposed values are supposed to be against. Rather than acknowledge that he is the enemy of their value system, they double down in their support (hence the phony and hypocrite calls). It's all intertwined.

The very people that should be running this guy out of town are his biggest fans. It's baffling, until you realize their supposed values are just a facade.

By the way, what's up with the Gay Marriage take? Who cares (I know, you do)? If two dudes get married it has NO effect on your life, none. The institution is in tatters already (~50% divorce rate) so what is it you are defending? It's like guarding a broken down Pinto. Makes no sense.
 

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buddy;4269971 I'll say one thing about Christians who are sincere in their walk of faith....we have enough sense to have limits and boundaries. For our own lives [B said:
and for others[/B].

BINGO!!! You have hit the nail right on the head, Buddy. You and your kind, Christians (and also many Muslims, Jews and others), KNOW what it righteous and proper. More than just being certain that you have all the answers, you freakos sometimes act out your religious hocus-pocus.

Some of you freaks fly airplanes into buildings because your deity wants you to. Others of you pass laws about who can marry whom. No, no black people can't intermarry with whites. Women cannot marry women.


Look in the mirror someday, freako. What do you see? Buddy who knows all, or Abdul who knows all?

Slavery or 9-11, same religio shit.
 

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By the way, what's up with the Gay Marriage take? Who cares (I know, you do)? If two dudes get married it has NO effect on your life, none.

Let me ask you a question about the LGBTQ community. Seems to me that people like you are accepting of any or all lifestyles, provided is does not interfere with you personally. Am I right in saying this? "Live and let live" is your motto.

My question is, where do you draw the line? First it was gays, then lesbians, then bisexuals, then transgender, then queer. Who's next? Or should I say, "What's next?" Are you okay with pedophilia? How about bestiality? How about orgiastic celebrations in the town square? Does your vocabulary include the word "unnatural?"

Is it always, "What will be, will be?" Or is there a chance you might think, "What will be, will be unless I put a stop to it. Some things in life are totally unacceptable because I have a moral standard."

Oh, that word morality and the problems it creates.

Your turn.
 

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Let me ask you a question about the LGBTQ community. Seems to me that people like you are accepting of any or all lifestyles, provided is does not interfere with you personally. Am I right in saying this? "Live and let live" is your motto.

My question is, where do you draw the line? First it was gays, then lesbians, then bisexuals, then transgender, then queer. Who's next? Or should I say, "What's next?" Are you okay with pedophilia? How about bestiality? How about orgiastic celebrations in the town square? Does your vocabulary include the word "unnatural?"

Is it always, "What will be, will be?" Or is there a chance you might think, "What will be, will be unless I put a stop to it. Some things in life are totally unacceptable because I have a moral standard."

Oh, that word morality and the problems it creates.

Your turn.

I won't speak for WHN here, but how about this as a prevailing tenet?

Do whatever you want as long as it does not implicitly/explicitly or willfully/unknowingly or directly/indirectly hurt/harm anyone or anything. That pretty much eliminates your other ridiculous "what ifs" and "where do you draw the line" slippery slope scenarios.

I'm quite certain that Christ, the brown-skinned Jew, would be fine with those living their lives striving for this very thing.

Peace! :)
 

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I won't speak for WHN here, but how about this as a prevailing tenet?

Do whatever you want as long as it does not implicitly/explicitly or willfully/unknowingly or directly/indirectly hurt/harm anyone or anything. That pretty much eliminates your other ridiculous "what ifs" and "where do you draw the line" slippery slope scenarios.

I'm quite certain that Christ, the brown-skinned Jew, would be fine with those living their lives striving for this very thing.

Peace! :)

I'm quite certain you meant to exclude implicit, explicit, willful, unknowing, direct or indirect psychological harm provided the victim could still walk and chew bubble gum despite the inevitable damage. What harm could possibly be wrought if an older man has intercourse with a young boy? A lesbian encounter with a pre-teen girl?

It's rather easy to determine by reading these replies who has or doesn't have children.
But this is the internet.
Everyone has a say.
Idiots included.

Ridiculous "what ifs"?
You're forgiven
Now think again.
 
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I'm quite certain you meant to exclude implicit, explicit, willful, unknowing, direct or indirect psychological harm as one could still walk and talk despite the damage. What harm could possibly be wrought if an older man has intercourse with a young boy?
Or how about a lesbian encounter with a pre-teen girl?

It's rather easy to determine by reading these replies who has or doesn't have children.
But this is the internet.
Everyone has a say.
Idiots included.

Tell all, buddy: were you born this stupid, or have you had some sort of brain injury?

I can assure you that not I, nor any other member of this forum would accept sex with minors, unwilling persons or the mentally disabled. That means you're safe.

Yes, I have children. She's an adult and and believes that straight and gay people can have sex with any willing, mentally competent, adult person. She would also be opposed to sex with other species. So that makes you doubly safe.

Interesting to note that only you have brought up the scenario of adults having sex with children or animals Only you, Buddy, only you.

Been having wet dreams about about little Tommy, the sixth grader next door, or maybe it's seven year old Susan, or her dog Lassie?
 

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Let me ask you a question about the LGBTQ community. Seems to me that people like you are accepting of any or all lifestyles, provided is does not interfere with you personally. Am I right in saying this? "Live and let live" is your motto.

My question is, where do you draw the line? First it was gays, then lesbians, then bisexuals, then transgender, then queer. Who's next? Or should I say, "What's next?" Are you okay with pedophilia? How about bestiality? How about orgiastic celebrations in the town square? Does your vocabulary include the word "unnatural?"

Is it always, "What will be, will be?" Or is there a chance you might think, "What will be, will be unless I put a stop to it. Some things in life are totally unacceptable because I have a moral standard."

Oh, that word morality and the problems it creates.

Your turn.

Two adult males or two adult females choosing to have sex with one another is fine. Raping children and animals is not. I'm sorry this is so difficult for you to process.
 

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Two adult males or two adult females choosing to have sex with one another is fine. Raping children and animals is not. I'm sorry this is so difficult for you to process.

So, let me get this right...You're saying raping children and animals is not fine, correct?

So evidently, your creed is NOT "Live and let live". You have a moral standard. Some things are okay, other things are not okay. Some would call you a bigot. You are intolerant of another persons sexual preference.

What allowed you to arrive at that conclusion? You must have a moral conscience.
Some internal arbiter that prevents you from going beyond a certain point.

The problem is there are others who want to push the moral envelope.

You pushed it past its natural boundaries with homosexuality.
Others want to push it even farther.

Once you allow and encourage something unnatural to exist (homosexuality), that organism (so to speak) will spawn other unnatural and abnormal progeny.

Paraphilias of the Day:
Pedophilia, Hebephilia, Ephebophilia, and Pederasty

You also wrote: "The Evangelicals are the oxygen Trump needs to survive. He stands for everything their supposed values are supposed to be against. Rather than acknowledge that he is the enemy of their value system, they double down in their support (hence the phony and hypocrite calls). It's all intertwined.

The very people that should be running this guy out of town are his biggest fans. It's baffling, until you realize their supposed values are just a facade.

My reply: There's nothing baffling about Christian support of Trump because there's a much bigger issue than Christian values at stake. Obviously, we'd be pleased if he was moral and upright and had a shred of dignity. But everyone knew going in what they were getting. An adulterous, lecherous, fornicating womanizer with an enormous ego. Christian values being itrampled on was pretty much expected.

The bigger issue is presently headline news.
 
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So, let me get this right...You're saying raping children and animals is not fine, correct?

So evidently, your creed is NOT "Live and let live". You have a moral standard. Some things are okay, other things are not okay. Some would call you a bigot. You are intolerant of another persons sexual preference.

What allowed you to arrive at that conclusion? You must have a moral conscience.
Some internal arbiter that prevents you from going beyond a certain point.

The problem is there are others who want to push the moral envelope.

You pushed it past its natural boundaries with homosexuality.
Others want to push it even farther.

Once you allow and encourage something unnatural to exist (homosexuality), that organism (so to speak) will spawn other unnatural and abnormal progeny.

Paraphilias of the Day:
Pedophilia, Hebephilia, Ephebophilia, and Pederasty

You also wrote: "The Evangelicals are the oxygen Trump needs to survive. He stands for everything their supposed values are supposed to be against. Rather than acknowledge that he is the enemy of their value system, they double down in their support (hence the phony and hypocrite calls). It's all intertwined.

The very people that should be running this guy out of town are his biggest fans. It's baffling, until you realize their supposed values are just a facade.

My reply: There's nothing baffling about Christian support of Trump because there's a much bigger issue than Christian values at stake. Obviously, we'd be pleased if he was moral and upright and had a shred of dignity. But everyone knew going in what they were getting. An adulterous, lecherous, fornicating womanizer with an enormous ego. Christian values being itrampled on was pretty much expected.

The bigger issue is presently headline news.

Are you serious? You think raping children and animals fits in my "live and let live" attitude? That kind of breaks down when you realize the child and animal weren't capable of consent. A big part of the "live and let live" thing is you don't harm others, hence the let live part.

I'm sorry that you're incapable of processing this, that must be very hard.

By the way, I like how you're values are disposable when convenient. I highlighted your own words above.
 

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I don't have a clue what your "live and let live" credo might include.

Not harming others is a very broad generalization.

Doesn't say a thing about consent, capable or not.

Or is your audience supposed to know what you meant rather than what you said.

Talk about "convenient"! LOL
 

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I don't have a clue what your "live and let live" credo might include.

Not harming others is a very broad generalization.

Doesn't say a thing about consent, capable or not.

Or is your audience supposed to know what you meant rather than what you said.

Talk about "convenient"! LOL

And this explains a lot. People that don't know the difference between right and wrong NEED religion to show them the way. That explains your confusion. You can't even process when an individual's actions would negatively impact others. Keep going to church Buddy, you clearly can't operate without them telling you what to think.
 

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So, let me get this right...You're saying raping children and animals is not fine, correct?

So evidently, your creed is NOT "Live and let live". You have a moral standard. Some things are okay, other things are not okay. Some would call you a bigot. You are intolerant of another persons sexual preference.

Jesus fucking Christ, buddy, are you really so stupid? WHN, I, and others, are talking about consensual acts between mentally competent adults.

What two mentally competent adults do is none of your Goddamned business.



NONE.

Is that clear? Good.
 
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