Obama care-day 1

[rusty]

DTB,come on now there all like that.You think only DEMs. are stiffing charity or taking advantage of there leadership,PLEEASEEEE.....

I forget his name,but one of Patricks opponents on the republican side sent illegal emails for campaign support.After gettn caught he played dumb saying it was an accident.

Now any money given to him must be payed back:mj07: .We know thats not gonna happen.

If you think just 1 party is corrupt you obviously are either misinformed or just don't care.Sad ....

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

bush or cheney (either one) gave more than clinton-gore-kerry omama-biden--combined

I understand your point Rusty--no fan of politicians in general from either party--

--but you got your work cut out for you defending charitable deadbeats Gore and Kerry--

I don't know how this keeps coming up every few months but I have it in my archives--so can put it back up with no prob--along with tax records

for your info--
http://www.madjacksports.com/forum/showthread.php?p=2545395#post2545395

now any comment on which of us was --as you say--misinformed :SIB

 

[Trampled Underfoot]

Facts speak for themselves--The rhetroric needs to be exposed for what it is--deception/grifts and bullshit

You got Gore and Kerry on the 2 america rant --yet stiff charity for less than $100 between the 2 of them.

You got folks here that want to act like they are concerned about others while pointing fingers at others for being selfish---

I'm just seperating fact from BS.

--and while on that subject

Maybe you can straighten a few things out--

I see your profile consists of-
Trampled Underfoot has no contact information.

Maybe you could explain to us why someone whose main purpose is to critique others yet hide info on themselves--

Could you give us a little history of where you live--what you do--and someone anyone knows that can verify anything you say as truth?:0corn

Still stuck on the one party train? Sad times.

Hiding info? On a message board? I don't live in Kentucky thats for sure.

 

[Chadman]

Wayne,

I'm still having a hard time with your analysis on the subsidy for benefits for retired corporate employees. Isn't this a company-employee issue? Why should I have to pay for an extra subsidy to help a company pay for a retired person's prescription drugs? Or more appropriately, you, since government subsidies are more problematic for you than me? I already pay into a fund that supplies them with social security income, medicare and in some cases medicaid benefits. Probably others I'm not thinking of at the moment.

This was nothing more than corporate welfare, for major corporations. The only people who benefited from these things were the former employees - many who no longer pay income taxes - the shareholders, and management, who directly benefit on a bottom line stock price and competitive advantage basis.

You say this is like medicare and social security, so you're ok with it. Then, in other threads you hold up these two programs as being poorly run by government and programs that are hurting the country financially. Even to the point of suggesting and supporting privatization, as I think I recall in times past. [Just thinking back to the financial crisis, when these companies you guys were suggesting should take over Social Security, and manage people's private healthcare accounts, that came to the government for bailout money...].

Seems like an inconsistent position - politically opportunistic analysis - that doesn't add up to me.