Obama wont attend Arlington National Cemetary on Memorial Day

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I am not a lefty nor a righty...I am an Independant. It is just amazing to me how many of these politicians dont hold themselves accountable for nothing. We need more Patton and less patonleather. On ur views on BP, has any 1 wanted to just kick these environmentalist in the azz? The drilling was supposed to be closer to shore and workable if something did go wrong (like it did) but they raised hell about the animals and the environment and how it would effect many things w/drilling closer to shore. Hmmm looks like it did effect all of us no matter how far they move the drilling out to sea but it would have been manageable closer to shore.
 

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Spreading hate???? We Are in middle of two fucking wars and he is NOT going to attend? This is disrespect to our fallen soldiers and their families. I dont give a damn if Bush started them, it's time for Obama to stand up as our president and be a patriot. Obamas numbers are dropping and many of the military who voted for him will NEVER vote for him again. AND....NO PEOPLE...NO president has ever missed attending the Arlington National Cemetary on Memorial Day....Know UR History.....Stop thinking for once about who's on first and start thinking who's dropping the ball.


1983: Reagan attended summit meeting; Defense Department official Thayer laid wreath at Arlington. Deputy Secretary of Defense W. Paul Thayer laid a wreath at Arlington Cemetery during the Memorial Day ceremony in 1983, according to a May 31, 1983, Washington Post article (accessed via Nexis). The AP reported that President Reagan attended a "summit meeting in Williamsburg, Va., with leaders of the industrialized democracies."

1992: George H.W. Bush allowed VP Quayle to lay wreath. In 1992, Vice President Dan Quayle laid a wreath at the Tomb of the Unknowns at Arlington National Cemetery on Memorial Day, according to a May 26, 1992, Boston Globe article (accessed via the Nexis database). The Globe reported that President George H.W. Bush attended a wreath-laying ceremony and made brief remarks at an American Legion hall in Kennebunkport, Maine, where he also played a round of golf.
 
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Actually I wont defend Obama on this one Skeeter because I think he should be on the Gulf Coast holding BP's feet to the fire rather than spending the weekend in Chicago. If you want to criticize Obama for something, criticize him for conducting business as usual while the largest man-made environmental disaster in history is unfolding in the Gulf. The problem with you righties is you don't know how to pick your battles. You guys have no credibility because you're always crying wolf.

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Why get involved in it when its BP who is responsible to use every resource they have to get this leak stopped.

No one in the world knows how to stop this leak.

To critisize for not cleaing up the marshs right now is ludicrous. You dont clean something up until the leak is stopped.

Its called throwing good money after bad.
 

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Go look it up before you constantly lap up the dribble from Faux.

Bush went to see Daddy in Kennebunkport one year, never even went to a cemetary. DTB, it's no way to go through life, believing Faux noise and being stupid.

It shows your hate for the man when there are so many other examples you charge to the forum with, hard on and all, only to get squashed. I guess hiding behind a computer allows you to be so idiotic?

I believe according to report I saw Reagan and Bush senior were only ones to miss arlington in last 3 decades--but nice try on trying to make it no big deal--

I said if O had some urgent function to attend--like family reunion in Kenya where 95% of his relatives reside--I could understand it. :)
 

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He is DTBlackgumby and proud of it.

Scott --you got too much time on your hands --since you don't have to track those days Gumby kept us safe--how many months did that last??

--and along those lines--what did I tell you about terrorists and Kumbaya approach--they exploit the weak--

from ABC
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/terror-attacks-us-time-high/story?id=10748953

Terror Attacks Against U.S. At All-Time High


DHS Report Says Pace May Increase And Include More Homegrown Extremists


The pace and number of attempted terror attacks against the U.S. over the past nine months has surpassed the number of attempts during any previous one-year period, according to an internal Department of Homeland Security report issued on Friday, May 21.
 

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he didn`t even make a stop in nashville during their horrible flood.....and it took serpenthead carville unloading on him on national t.v. to get him to the gulf for more than a perfunctory stop...

getting rid of don`t ask don`t tell?...that`s on the front burner...that`s a game changer...:mj07:

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/james-carvilles-oil-outburst-10746347

on the job from day one...:142smilie

good for carville...
 

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I believe according to report I saw Reagan and Bush senior were only ones to miss arlington in last 3 decades--but nice try on trying to make it no big deal--

I said if O had some urgent function to attend--like family reunion in Kenya where 95% of his relatives reside--I could understand it. :)

President George W. Bush missed in 1997 with Cheney laying the wreath, not that it matters. My main point is the 100's of off the wall accusations like DTB, the king birther.

I think the President should have gone to Nashville and to the memorial for the oil workers who were killed. That was a mistake IMO.
 

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President George W. Bush missed in 1997 with Cheney laying the wreath, not that it matters. My main point is the 100's of off the wall accusations like DTB, the king birther.
KC,

Clinton was President in 97. I think you may be thinking of 2002, when Dubya did not visit Arlington. I believe he was in Europe at the time. But your point is valid. We've now established that 3 of the last 4 sitting Presidents missed at least one Memorial Day visit to Arlington. DTGumby's mind is clouded by prejudice and bigotry, so facts seldom have any influence on his posts regarding Obama.

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Seems that this is such a big deal to those who are anti-Obama, we should then give equal focus to these two Presidents, and what they chose to do on their Memorial Day(s):

1992: George H.W. Bush attended a wreath-laying ceremony and made brief remarks at an American Legion hall in Kennebunkport, Maine, where he also played a round of golf. Is there much difference between playing a round of golf and attending a concert? Other than just hating Obama?

Bush remained in Texas for Veterans Day in 2007

Veterans Day 2007: Cheney attended ceremony to pay tribute at Arlington as Bush remained in Texas. The AP further reported that "Vice President Dick Cheney went to Arlington to pay tribute to Iraq veterans."

So, Looks like Obama has acted almost exactly like the two Bush Presidents, but only now it's important? Simple question: were they wrong, too?

Here are Obama's plans: Obama will commemorate Memorial Day in Illinois ceremony

Obama will speak at veterans cemetery; Biden to lay wreath at Arlington National Cemetery. A White House press release states: "On Monday, the President will participate in a Memorial Day ceremony at Abraham Lincoln National Cemetery in Elwood, Illinois. Also on Monday, the Vice President and Dr. Jill Biden will host a breakfast for Gold Star Families at the White House. Afterwards, the Vice President and Dr. Biden will participate in a wreath-laying ceremony at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier at Arlington National Cemetery." Abraham Lincoln National Cemetery is dedicated as a national cemetery within the VA's National Cemetery Administration. [WhiteHouse.gov, 5/24/10]

This, after going down to the Gulf on Friday to survey the situation. Maybe he'll do more than a fly-by of the Katrina area, as was done by his predecessor?
 

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Scott --you got too much time on your hands --since you don't have to track those days Gumby kept us safe--how many months did that last??

--and along those lines--what did I tell you about terrorists and Kumbaya approach--they exploit the weak--

from ABC
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/terror-attacks-us-time-high/story?id=10748953

Terror Attacks Against U.S. At All-Time High


DHS Report Says Pace May Increase And Include More Homegrown Extremists


The pace and number of attempted terror attacks against the U.S. over the past nine months has surpassed the number of attempts during any previous one-year period, according to an internal Department of Homeland Security report issued on Friday, May 21.
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dumb ass right wingnut :142smilie
 

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Why get involved in it when its BP who is responsible to use every resource they have to get this leak stopped.

No one in the world knows how to stop this leak.

To critisize for not cleaing up the marshs right now is ludicrous. You dont clean something up until the leak is stopped.

Its called throwing good money after bad.
Scotty... what we don't know is how much "behind the scenes" involvement Obama's had with the disaster in the Gulf. But on appearances, it sure seems like it's "business as usual" with Obama and there doesn't seem to be the sense of urgency I would expect for a disaster of this magnitude.

The Gulf of Mexico is NOT the property of British Petroleum. Fuck Lamar McKay and fuck British Petroleum!!! The callousness and arrogance they've displayed not only with this disaster but throughout their history is all anyone needs to know about that company.

Every time I see a car pull into a BP gas station, I ask myself "Are these people completely oblivious to what's going on in the Gulf?". How can they patronize a company that's effectively turned the Gulf of Mexico into a toxic soup of crude oil and dispersants for who knows how long? Decades? Centuries? No one knows how big this disaster's going to be economically or geographically and how long it's impacts will last. All because BP decided doing the right thing and drilling a relief well was "too expensive" (i.e. it would have cut into their profits).

It's been more than 5 weeks!!! Obama should have been on Gulf coast the first week and every week since, using the power of his office not only to put pressure on BP but to gather every possible resource this and other countries have to deal with this disaster. Again, we don't know how involved Obama's been behind the scenes but one visit in 5 weeks? He attended a fundraiser in San Francisco the other day. Is that really more important than what's going on in the Gulf? Really?

I'm not sure Obama gets it yet. He keeps referring to it as the "spill" in the Gulf. It's not a freaking spill! It's an oil reserve that's dumping (if you believe BP) 5000 barrels of crude oil into the Gulf every day. Other estimates range as high as 70 - 80,000 barrels per day. Let's assume it's somewhere in the middle... say, 40,000 barrels per day. This is day# 38. That means more than 1.5 million barrels have already dumped into the Gulf!

It's expected to take about 90 days to drill a relief well, so if we add that to the oil that's already dumped into the Gulf, that brings us to more than 5 million barrels. We all remember what a mess the Exxon Valdez made of the Alaskan coast. The Exxon Valdez leaked 271,000 barrels of oil. So that means the oil slick in the Gulf could by the time it's capped be almost 20 times the size of the Exxon Valdez spill. That could devastate the entire Gulf coast for decades.

If nothing else, Obama's presence on the Gulf coast would give the impression he considers this disaster priority 1 and he's doing everything within his power. I know he's visiting the region again tomorrow. It's about damn time.

Sorry about the rant. I just want to see Obama stop joking about this at press dinners and fundraisers and take it seriously.

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On ur views on BP, has any 1 wanted to just kick these environmentalist in the azz? The drilling was supposed to be closer to shore and workable if something did go wrong (like it did) but they raised hell about the animals and the environment and how it would effect many things w/drilling closer to shore. Hmmm looks like it did effect all of us no matter how far they move the drilling out to sea but it would have been manageable closer to shore.
Oh... there it is. Let's blame environmentalists for the disaster in the Gulf, NOT the greedy corporations that have turned the Gulf of Mexico into the next Dead Sea... British Petroleum, Halliburton & Transocean.

No, it's all the fault of environmentalists. Got it.

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IM sorry Trench UR right....lets not blame the environmentalist....Lets blame the right person here.....OBAMA.....He said "I take the blame". It took Bush 4 damn long days to get to New Orleans for Katrina and every 1 was on his assssssss. Hmmmm It took Obama 11 days to get to the gulf and nobody said one freaking thing. Hollywood said Katrina was the blame of the white man and wanted to make a movie of it. Funny how we forget and how bias the media is.
 

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Spreading hate???? We Are in middle of two fucking wars and he is NOT going to attend? This is disrespect to our fallen soldiers and their families. I dont give a damn if Bush started them, it's time for Obama to stand up as our president and be a patriot. Obamas numbers are dropping and many of the military who voted for him will NEVER vote for him again. AND....NO PEOPLE...NO president has ever missed attending the Arlington National Cemetary on Memorial Day....Know UR History.....Stop thinking for once about who's on first and start thinking who's dropping the ball.

Skeeter care to explain how someone who knows UR history could be wrong about such a thing?
 

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he didn`t even make a stop in nashville during their horrible flood.....and it took serpenthead carville unloading on him on national t.v. to get him to the gulf for more than a perfunctory stop...

getting rid of don`t ask don`t tell?...that`s on the front burner...that`s a game changer...:mj07:

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/james-carvilles-oil-outburst-10746347

on the job from day one...:142smilie

good for carville...

I'm sure he made mention he lost sleep over it somewhere though-Weise


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The president said today his main focus is the "My job right now is just to make sure that everybody in the Gulf understands, this is what I wake to in the morning and this is what I go to bed at night thinking about."

Well, that is a pretty familiar line. Earlier this year the White House press secretary said President Obama: "Wakes up in the morning and he goes to bed at night thinking about how to make people's lives better ? how to create that environment for creating jobs..."

About national security, marking 9/11 last year, the president said: "My greatest responsibility is the security of the American people. It's the first thing I think about when I wake up in the morning. It's the last thing I think about when I go to sleep at night."

The president used a similar line about protecting Americans multiple times last year.
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I'd rather have my President thinking about VARIOUS things before going to sleep and immediately after waking, unlike our last one, who repeatedly spoke of not letting the job get to him, and how well he slept at night, in various "tough times."

Of course, a large part of the time he was sleeping at home in his own bed, instead of in the White House bed, so that probably helped.
 

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So, I'm wondering if there will be any kind of retraction by those who blindly follow incorrect information and post it here in the usual OMG!!!! fashion. I won't hold my breath.

skeeter, illuminat, skull, Ramone, & DTB has gone silent about Arlington, no comment about being wrong. So I assume you all now think Reagan, Bush I (never attended a Memorial Service at Arlington), Bush II, all hate and disrespect our troops? And all the other comments in this thread about President Obama like cowardly?

Just change the subject.........:yup
 

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skeeter, illuminat, skull, Ramone, & DTB has gone silent about Arlington, no comment about being wrong. So I assume you all now think Reagan, Bush I (never attended a Memorial Service at Arlington), Bush II, all hate and disrespect our troops? And all the other comments in this thread about President Obama like cowardly?

Just change the subject.........:yup
Different thread. Same old hit & run schtick from the righties KC. Same as it ever was.

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skeeter, illuminat, skull, Ramone, & DTB has gone silent about Arlington, no comment about being wrong. So I assume you all now think Reagan, Bush I (never attended a Memorial Service at Arlington), Bush II, all hate and disrespect our troops? And all the other comments in this thread about President Obama like cowardly?

Just change the subject.........:yup

Hmm don't know how you could have missed it--but worth repeating

Made no mention of cowardly either--did say if he had event that took him away--like family reunion in Kenya--I'd give him pass also.:)


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You idiots. This is a perfect example of pure hate for the person Obama. It has nothing to do with policy as Reagan and Bush did the same thing.

Where do you people come up with these stupid excuses to hate our President. Can't you stick to debating actual policy? Geez!

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GW NEVER missed Arlinton that I am aware of--and I could give Snapperhead (Gumby) a pass if was important reason to miss-

bottom line it vets on memorial day--or rock concert--we all have our priorities.

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