OK--OK...ENOUGH with the JACKS already...

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Schouest

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OK---I've been punished enough...this maloof with the Jacks has gone on long enough...and I have finally had enough...


I'll post just so you can all play along..



dealt to Schouest [7h 7d]
Schouest: raises to $20
majo1212: folds
208knives: calls $20
007hunt: calls $20
Jibby147: folds
Jeff23075: folds
----- FLOP ----- [5c Jd 7s]
Schouest: checks
208knives: bets $40
007hunt: calls $40
Schouest: calls $40
----- TURN ----- [5c Jd 7s][Jc]
Schouest: checks
208knives: bets $100
007hunt: calls $100
Schouest: raises to $250
208knives: raises to $470.50 and is all-in
007hunt: folds
Schouest: is all-in $128.87
Returned uncalled bets $91.63 to 208knives
----- RIVER -----
[5c Jd 7s Jc][5s]
----- SHOW DOWN -----
208knives: shows [Th Jh] (A Full House, Jacks full of Fives)
Schouest: shows [7h 7d] (A Full House, Sevens full of Jacks)
208knives collects $1041.74 from Main pot
----- SUMMARY -----
Total pot $1044.74 Main pot $1041.74 Rake $3
Board [5c Jd 7s Jc 5s]
Seat 1: majo1212 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: 208knives showed [Th Jh] and won ($1041.74) with A Full House, Jacks full of Fives
Seat 3: 007hunt (button) folded on the Turn
Seat 4: Jibby147 (small blind) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Jeff23075 (big blind) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Schouest showed [7h 7d] and lost
 
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With another caller on the flop, why not raise? It was a tough beat, but could have been possibly avoided with a strong raise on the flop.
 
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Wow, thats a rough beat...

I am not a big NL cash game player... I prefer to stick to limit... But why not check-raise the flop to maybe $140? Then when you fill up, get all your money in at that point... and make them pay to draw out on you? (Like I said, not a NL cash game player... just thinking out loud)
 
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push the turn. he's calling anyway.

or what i like best is make a big raise on the flop. don't slow play sets.

don't be results oriented. you got your money in with the best of it. chit happens.

looks like you are going to lose the hand anyway without a big raise on the flop. which is how i think you should have played it. but that's being results oriented.

he's a huge dog on the flop which is when the money should have gone in. he's not nearly in as bad a shape on the turn, but you are still way ahead.



gl and hope you win the next one
 
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Why not this and that ???

I was trying to sucker every damn penny from that bastard, and I guess I got what was coming..

Just got knocked out of another tourny...holding what...

AND I DID GO ALL IN ON THE TURN....the river 5 came AFTER the all ins.....




POCKET JACKS..

Fukkk em....I hate them bitches..

Heading out to play in traffic !!


dealt to Schouest [Jd Js]
meeagain: calls 200
00Audi00: folds
Baltazzz: folds
ThierryH: folds
Lfc5times: calls 200
scania: folds
Schouest: raises to 600
owlsrgud2: folds
Weekend: folds
meeagain: calls 400
Lfc5times: calls 400
----- FLOP ----- [7s 3d Qd]
meeagain: checks
Lfc5times: checks
Schouest: bets 1777.50 and is all-in
meeagain: calls 1777.50
Lfc5times: folds
----- TURN ----- [7s 3d Qd][As]
----- RIVER ----- [7s 3d Qd As][5h]
----- SHOW DOWN -----
Schouest: shows [Jd Js] (A Pair of Jacks, Ace high)
meeagain: shows [7d 7h] (Three of a kind, Sevens, Ace high)
meeagain collects 5655 from Main pot
----- SUMMARY -----
Total pot 5655 Main pot 5655 Rake 0
Board [7s 3d Qd As 5h]
Seat 1: 00Audi00 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Baltazzz folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: ThierryH folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Lfc5times folded on the Flop
Seat 5: scania folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Schouest (button) showed [Jd Js] and lost
Seat 7: owlsrgud2 (small blind) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Weekend (big blind) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: meeagain showed [7d 7h] and won (5655) with Three of a kind, Sevens, Ace high
 
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Schouest

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BleedDodgerBlue said:
push the turn. he's calling anyway.

or what i like best is make a big raise on the flop. don't slow play sets.

don't be results oriented. you got your money in with the best of it. chit happens.

looks like you are going to lose the hand anyway without a big raise on the flop. which is how i think you should have played it. but that's being results oriented.

he's a huge dog on the flop which is when the money should have gone in. he's not nearly in as bad a shape on the turn, but you are still way ahead.



gl and hope you win the next one
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I appreciate the insight....makes since NOW.... but if I always did the smart thing, well.....I'm not even going to go there !!
 
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Now that i have been playing omaha for about a couple weeks straight those beats dont look bad at all. I didnt lose as much money as schoust did, and im not trying to downplay it, that was a bad beat on the first hand, but I lost with 2nd to the nuts 3 hands in a row in 1 session, two of the three was rivered into losing the nuts.

I lost 100 playin .10-.25 pot limit omaha in just one session where I had 3 open houses beaten by 4 of a kinds! And 2 of the 3 the guys had pockets in their hands to make the 4.

Holdem is Brutal but Omaha is suicidal!
 
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