Old School

[MadJack]

What's the best time to water the lawn? I have always watered in the evening about a couple hours before dark. Somebody told me today, that's a bad time. WTF :shrug:

 

[Old School]

morning...

you can get away w/evenings until it gets hot..hot and real humid..that is when the fungus and ugly shit begin to relish in lawns watered in the evenings


you are probably in the 70's and creeping into the 80's very soon as a daily temp..[before hell and aug. 90's and above..

every other day at about 20-30 min.'s a zone should be sweet for now...or go to a total soak-out about every 3-4 days..either way is fine..


sharp blades and long grass is crucial now thru summer...

4'' high is great if you have the thick dense and green lawn..

those with spotty lawns should go no lower than 3'' and 3 and a hook is better..

get a crab-grass control w/fert down before it gets any hotter there.

water it in real good..

setting "H" on the broadcast spreader or wide friggin' open on a hand-held spreader..

DO NOT USE A DROP SPREADER FOR FERT..

WILL BURN THE HELL OUT OF GRASS..


ENJOY THE GREEN...

WATER..WATER...WATER...

 

[MadJack]

Thanks, man! I'll start doing mornings. And I do every other day for 20 minutes a zone. What's a total soak out?

I let Scott's Lawn Service take care of the other stuff.

Been mowing every 4 days. Geez.

I can't wait for the 90's temps because the fawking grackles will leave us then.

I'm gonna go ahead and bump that thread. They are at their peak right now and driving me crazy with all the shit they are throwing around. Jesus!

 

[Old School]

sounds like Scott rep has you lookin' good..


total soak-out is just that..

lotta old-timers will water til the sod and turf will literally squish between their toes..then not water again for like 4 days..

best for most just to start cycle at about 5am or depending on the # of zones ya have..20 min's should be fine for now..just look for collection [standing water a day after watering..standing water and shade will create root rot and dead spot in the yard...] if ya find a collection spot just lower the watering time in that zone..eliminates the problem..

when we reach the 90's and 100's ask your Scotts guy about 1 hour zones or earlier morning and an afternoon watering as well..he will know your best approach

...nothing says "Cool Dude" like a green lawn in the depth of hell summer heat..
:0067

 

[Morris]

OS glad I read this I always thought nite watering was OK. I'll switch to the AM. Thanks!

What do you do about moss....seem to have a lot this year. I put lime down last wed.

 

[MadJack]

5am sounds like the perfect time to be sitting on the deck with my coffee watching the lawn being watered

:0008

 

[Old School]

OS glad I read this I always thought nite watering was OK. I'll switch to the AM. Thanks!

What do you do about moss....seem to have a lot this year. I put lime down last wed.

Morris this article covers your moss question..

http://www.humeseeds.com/lawnmoss.htm

I don't have a lot of experience w/moss..

but if this doesn't solve the problem let me know..

I have buddies w/20 years experience in turf who can solve just about every problem I can't solve ..

Good Friends...almost as good as a babe with heavy hammers and a cold one on Friday Night..

"those were the days my friend I thought they would never end....,"

 

[Morris]

Thanks OS!!

 

[pd1]

you can get away w/evenings until it gets hot..hot and real humid..that is when the fungus and ugly shit begin to relish in lawns watered in the evenings


The number 1 baddest disease you can get in a lawn is pythium. It starts forming when the temperature and humidity added together equal 180. If you are watering in the morning your humidity level will be 100% until at least noon. This makes the grass more susceptible to diseases.

Here is a little article about it:

http://www.umassturf.org/publications/fact_sheets/diseases/pythium_diseases.pdf

As Old School said keep it tall and healthy.

Grub damage can look about the same, but diseases will have a noticeable ring around them, especially in the morning when the dew is on the ground.

Grub damage usually doesn't show up till the first of August. If you are paying for grub control they should spray around the 3rd week of July, that is when the previous years eggs hatch. They are much easier to control as they are hatching.


I would be glad to help with any other questions. I was a golf course superintendent for 30 years. My main rules for a nice yard are:

Spray for broadleaf weeds in the spring.

Apply a pre-emergent to control the crabgrass.

Only fertilize in the fall after the grass has basically stopped growing, but is still green. This is when the grass is switching from shoot growth to root growth. You will have a healthier plant without having to mow your ass off.

Keep it green

 

[hawkeye]

my guy told me only in the am as old school said--run my sprinklers at 4:30 in the morning--25 min each zone --m-w-f unless it rains.

 

[The Judge]

Who needs to water the fucking lawn anyway? It rains every afternoon here in CR.

<table class="dataTable" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><thead><tr><td colspan="2">
</td></tr></thead><tbody><tr class="wHover"><td>

</td> <td class="full"> Saturday Night
Thunderstorm. Scattered Clouds. Low: 19 ?C . Wind NE 3 km/h . 60% chance of precipitation (water equivalent of 28.28 mm). </td> </tr> <tr class="wHover"> <td>

</td> <td class="full"> Sunday
Thunderstorm. High: 29 ?C . Wind SW 14 km/h . 70% chance of precipitation (water equivalent of 34.59 mm). Heat Index: 28 ?C . </td> </tr> <tr class="wHover"> <td>

</td> <td class="full"> Sunday Night
Thunderstorm. Low: 19 ?C . Wind ENE 7 km/h . 70% chance of precipitation (water equivalent of 21.15 mm). </td> </tr> <tr class="wHover"> <td>

</td> <td class="full"> Monday
Thunderstorm. High: 28 ?C . Wind Calm. 80% chance of precipitation (water equivalent of 28.42 mm). </td> </tr> <tr class="wHover"> <td>

</td> <td class="full"> Monday Night
Thunderstorm. Low: 19 ?C . Wind Calm. 90% chance of precipitation (water equivalent of 59.96 mm). </td> </tr> <tr class="wHover"> <td>

</td> <td class="full"> Tuesday
Thunderstorm. High: 28 ?C . Wind SW 14 km/h . 80% chance of precipitation (water equivalent of 32.60 mm). </td> </tr> <tr class="wHover"> <td>

</td> <td class="full"> Tuesday Night
Chance of a Thunderstorm. Partly Cloudy. Low: 19 ?C . Wind ENE 10 km/h . 50% chance of precipitation (water equivalent of 15.96 mm). </td> </tr> <tr class="wHover"> <td>

</td> <td class="full"> Wednesday
Thunderstorm. High: 28 ?C . Wind South 21 km/h . 90% chance of precipitation (water equivalent of 57.91 mm). </td> </tr> <tr class="wHover"> <td>

</td> <td class="full"> Wednesday Night
Thunderstorm. Low: 19 ?C . Wind ESE 10 km/h . 90% chance of precipitation (water equivalent of 37.12 mm). </td> </tr> <tr class="wHover"> <td>

</td> <td class="full"> Thursday
Thunderstorm. Scattered Clouds. High: 28 ?C . Wind South 14 km/h . 50% chance of precipitation (water equivalent of 17.61 mm). </td> </tr> <tr class="wHover"> <td>

</td> <td class="full"> Thursday Night
Thunderstorm. Low: 20 ?C . Wind ESE 10 km/h . 80% chance of precipitation (water equivalent of 34.06 mm). </td> </tr> <tr class="wHover"> <td>

</td> <td class="full"> Friday
Chance of a Thunderstorm. Scattered Clouds. High: 28 ?C . Wind SW 21 km/h . 40% chance of precipitation (water equivalent of 11.87 mm). </td> </tr> <tr class="wHover"> <td>

</td> <td class="full"> Friday Night
Chance of Rain. Scattered Clouds. Low: 17 ?C . Wind East 10 km/h . 30% chance of precipitation (water equivalent of 0.85 mm). </td></tr></tbody></table>

 

[THE KOD]

Who needs to water the fucking lawn anyway? It rains every afternoon here in CR.
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<table class="dataTable" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><thead><tr><td colspan="2">
</td></tr></thead><tbody><tr class="wHover"><td>

</td> <td class="full"> Saturday Night
Thunderstorm. Scattered Clouds. Low: 19 ?C . Wind NE 3 km/h . 60% chance of precipitation (water equivalent of 28.28 mm). </td> </tr> <tr class="wHover"> <td>

</td> <td class="full"> Sunday
Thunderstorm. High: 29 ?C . Wind SW 14 km/h . 70% chance of precipitation (water equivalent of 34.59 mm). Heat Index: 28 ?C . </td> </tr> <tr class="wHover"> <td>

</td> <td class="full"> Sunday Night
Thunderstorm. Low: 19 ?C . Wind ENE 7 km/h . 70% chance of precipitation (water equivalent of 21.15 mm). </td> </tr> <tr class="wHover"> <td>

</td> <td class="full"> Monday
Thunderstorm. High: 28 ?C . Wind Calm. 80% chance of precipitation (water equivalent of 28.42 mm). </td> </tr> <tr class="wHover"> <td>

</td> <td class="full"> Monday Night
Thunderstorm. Low: 19 ?C . Wind Calm. 90% chance of precipitation (water equivalent of 59.96 mm). </td> </tr> <tr class="wHover"> <td>

</td> <td class="full"> Tuesday
Thunderstorm. High: 28 ?C . Wind SW 14 km/h . 80% chance of precipitation (water equivalent of 32.60 mm). </td> </tr> <tr class="wHover"> <td>

</td> <td class="full"> Tuesday Night
Chance of a Thunderstorm. Partly Cloudy. Low: 19 ?C . Wind ENE 10 km/h . 50% chance of precipitation (water equivalent of 15.96 mm). </td> </tr> <tr class="wHover"> <td>

</td> <td class="full"> Wednesday
Thunderstorm. High: 28 ?C . Wind South 21 km/h . 90% chance of precipitation (water equivalent of 57.91 mm). </td> </tr> <tr class="wHover"> <td>

</td> <td class="full"> Wednesday Night
Thunderstorm. Low: 19 ?C . Wind ESE 10 km/h . 90% chance of precipitation (water equivalent of 37.12 mm). </td> </tr> <tr class="wHover"> <td>

</td> <td class="full"> Thursday
Thunderstorm. Scattered Clouds. High: 28 ?C . Wind South 14 km/h . 50% chance of precipitation (water equivalent of 17.61 mm). </td> </tr> <tr class="wHover"> <td>

</td> <td class="full"> Thursday Night
Thunderstorm. Low: 20 ?C . Wind ESE 10 km/h . 80% chance of precipitation (water equivalent of 34.06 mm). </td> </tr> <tr class="wHover"> <td>

</td> <td class="full"> Friday
Chance of a Thunderstorm. Scattered Clouds. High: 28 ?C . Wind SW 21 km/h . 40% chance of precipitation (water equivalent of 11.87 mm). </td> </tr> <tr class="wHover"> <td>

</td> <td class="full"> Friday Night
Chance of Rain. Scattered Clouds. Low: 17 ?C . Wind East 10 km/h . 30% chance of precipitation (water equivalent of 0.85 mm). </td></tr></tbody></table>

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sounds like Seattle Washington

man I coudlnt take that place.

 

[THE KOD]

OS glad I read this I always thought nite watering was OK. I'll switch to the AM. Thanks!

What do you do about moss....seem to have a lot this year. I put lime down last wed.

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i like the way moss feels on my bare feet

not sure why to kill it :shrug:

 

[The Judge]

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sounds like Seattle Washington

man I coudlnt take that place.

Actually, it only rains for an hour or so every afternoon which cools things down.

 

[dogface]

I developed 3 spots of clover, foot aquare areas....

DOes Scott's work on clover? Do I dig it up and reseed???

I bought the generic fertilizeer this spring, Wal-Mart was out of the Scott's. Front yard was fine, but got several dandelions, the back yard was like a flower pot of dandelions. Never again!

:0008

 

[SixFive]

a little off topic. We started using Chem-Lawn last year. Before, I always thought only rich people used a lawn service like that, so we always tediously bought weed and feed, crab grass killer, etc every year and laboriously tried to keep up with it and deal with it not working.

We received a flyer in the mail about a free estimate and some other little incentive, so we called them. They quoted us, and I couldn't believe how cheap it was. It has certainly been money well spent, and the yard looks like a picture out of a magazine now. If you're still trying to do all the weed and feed, etc. on your own with those huge 50 pound bags, check them out or whoever does it locally. It is money well spent. They also aerated the yard for almost nothing last year.

 

[pd1]

I developed 3 spots of clover, foot aquare areas....

DOes Scott's work on clover? Do I dig it up and reseed???

I bought the generic fertilizeer this spring, Wal-Mart was out of the Scott's. Front yard was fine, but got several dandelions, the back yard was like a flower pot of dandelions. Never again!

:0008

Buy a small bottle of Tri Mec. You can spot spray the clover and dandylions, and it won't hurt your grass at all. It works on all broadleaf weeds.

 

[hedgehog]

a little off topic. We started using Chem-Lawn last year. Before, I always thought only rich people used a lawn service like that, so we always tediously bought weed and feed, crab grass killer, etc every year and laboriously tried to keep up with it and deal with it not working.

We received a flyer in the mail about a free estimate and some other little incentive, so we called them. They quoted us, and I couldn't believe how cheap it was. It has certainly been money well spent, and the yard looks like a picture out of a magazine now. If you're still trying to do all the weed and feed, etc. on your own with those huge 50 pound bags, check them out or whoever does it locally. It is money well spent. They also aerated the yard for almost nothing last year.

our yard looks the best in our neighborhood, we have used Chemlawn since 2001, highly recommended from me too

 

[dogface]

Buy a small bottle of Tri Mec. You can spot spray the clover and dandylions, and it won't hurt your grass at all. It works on all broadleaf weeds.

Hmm, bnever heard of it? IS this available at Menards, Home Depot, Target, Walmart or online... Sounds like that would be great....

 

[dogface]

was reading abou the PGR, the cabin has a steep almost unmowable hill that we let grow, but to keep it trimmed we have to stand above, and basically one hand the mowever back and forth over the stepp grade, a little dangerous, or go from below and try to puch up and handle the mower. Would this PGR help in this matter, what about potential runof into lake as for as it's ecosystem is concerned?


dogface