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A Legal Alternative To Online Gambling
Jonathan Berke 06.12.08, 12:09 PM ET


Here's a business model for you: Give people money and let them place any bet they'd like. If they win, they get to keep the spoils; if they lose, give them more money to play with.

No, we're not talking about the subprime mortgage business. We're talking about a new--and perfectly legal--online gambling outfit called Centsports.com, founded by budding Webpreneur Victor Palmer in College Station, Texas.

Online gambling has always been illegal, even though people got away with it for years. In 2006, U.S. federal prosecutors started cracking down on payment processors, making things a little harder, even for off-shore virtual casino operators and their customers.

In Pictures: The Best Bets At The Casino
Palmer skirts this pesky problem by banking his customers. Three elements have to be present to violate most state gambling laws--namely "prize, chance and consideration," says attorney Chuck Humphrey, a gaming-law specialist and author of the Gambling Law U.S. blog. Because Centsports.com doesn't allow users to bet their own stash, no "consideration" is involved, and thus all is kosher. Quips Palmer: "Congress assumes if you?re dumb enough to give away money, then go for it."

Here's how the site works. Each user starts off with 10 cents in his or her account, provided by Centsports. (You need only register a name and password.) From there, they can bet on any event for which Las Vegas bookmakers set a line.

Once users accumulate $20 in winnings--the equivalent of doubling your money eight times, or striking gold on a 200-to-1 long shot--they can cash out a minimum of $10 and receive an actual check in the mail. (In terms of "consideration," winnings on that initial 10-cent stake don't constitute ownership until actually cashed out.) Losers risk nothing--except perhaps a touch of pride--and get immediately restaked with fresh dimes.

Cashing out is not exactly straight forward. To ensure he can always pay the electric bill, Palmer puts the breaks on payouts (talk about having a house edge). Users compete with each other to snag their winnings from a community pot; big winners get preference.

Users can also earn money by referring friends to Centsports.com. The incentive: 5% of any winnings their friends rack up.

How does Palmer aim to turn a profit? Hungry advertisers--which thus far include Skype, Pizza Hut and the National Basketball Association--and a meager marketing budget consisting of those 10-cent initial stakes and a few teaser videos on YouTube. (Most of Palmer's initial investment went to cover a mere $5-a-month lease on a computer server.) So far, so good: Palmer says his registered user base, now at 200,000 strong, is nearly doubling every month.

Palmer's not your average 26-year-old. He began college at Lubbock Christian University (in Lubbock, Texas) at age 11. He graduated at 16 with a BS in mathematics; soon after began working on a Masters degree in physics at Texas Tech University; and in 2006 bagged a Ph.D. in computer science from Texas A&M University.

That r?sum? notwithstanding, Palmer is more frat boy than power geek. On the phone, he jokes freely about girls and alcohol. With any luck, he may soon have plenty of reasons to raise a glass.
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Something don't seem quite right about this
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This is going to be interesting.... I went and signed up for shits and giggles.... I bet my BIG dime on the Indians -179 to beat the Twins today.... Here's the interesting part.... When I went ot make the bet, it said the payout was $0.056, but there was a link that said if you watch the advertisement, it would double your *payback* so I watched it.

Now, I'm a high roller.... I've got the Indians -179 to beat the Twins.... Put up a dime and the payout is $0.1117. WTF?!?!?! I wish I could get those kind of odds offshore!!! :mj07:
 

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I have been using it for a while......I have wagers with my friends as to "who gets the most money by month end". We go month to month and whoever is on top at the end of the month wins the money!

Site is super funny as well, advertisers are lining up to get on this site, and I can see why:scared


For those that sign up, include your username and I'll add to my "friends list"..........Jack/IE if that is uncool then please delete my post.

my username is kickserv for any that want to add me....but I am only at 10 cents now so I suck:mj07:

again Jack/IE please delete if I have broken any rules.


Also, one of my buddies did get a cheque for 47 dollars two months ago, so yes they do pay if you manage to get super lucky:SIB
 

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why couldnt Jack start something like

this in madjacks ?

Or maybe get them as a sponser ?

He has the people, the website, the moxy.

All he has to do is come up with .10 cents for anyone that wants to play.

:0corn
 

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This is going to be interesting.... I went and signed up for shits and giggles....
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did they make you send a copy of your drivers lisence and birth certificate and the name of your first born ?
 

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You are correct taoist you can search the database by e-mail address but not by username. And since we are not allowed to put our e-mail address on here then I guess we are out of luck on adding each other! I think you can seach by first and last name but I can't publish that on here because it would blow my secret super hero identity:142smilie


Also.......Scott makes a good point about what Jack could do, sound like a possibility:shrug:


Anyway....Fun Site, but I have yet to hit the 20 dollar mark:142smilie We can dream, we can dream:142smilie
 

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also......this is quite impressive for starting with 10 cents:scared


All Time Highest Balances
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Tito $958.59
Kenny G $706.00
Micro Moi $564.48
Robert H $489.69
Adam Clayton $481.04
Raymond Verdegan $443.58
Jeff Riehl $436.35
Ray Allen $414.72
Jody Stout $413.28
Claye Kelson $394.19
Gavro Marashi $383.57
Tom Brady $370.34
 

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Yeah, gambling is safe now, :mj07: :142smilie



:scared :scared :scared






kurby kurby kurby kurby kurby
 

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I have been using it for a while......I have wagers with my friends as to "who gets the most money by month end". We go month to month and whoever is on top at the end of the month wins the money!

Site is super funny as well, advertisers are lining up to get on this site, and I can see why:scared


For those that sign up, include your username and I'll add to my "friends list"..........Jack/IE if that is uncool then please delete my post.

my username is kickserv for any that want to add me....but I am only at 10 cents now so I suck:mj07:

again Jack/IE please delete if I have broken any rules.


Also, one of my buddies did get a cheque for 47 dollars two months ago, so yes they do pay if you manage to get super lucky:SIB

i thought you moved to Macau :shrug:

job or something?
 

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nope.....in :canada1 ....but Macau does sound like a nice place to be:SIB
 
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also......this is quite impressive for starting with 10 cents:scared


All Time Highest Balances
--------------------------------------
Tito $958.59
Kenny G $706.00
Micro Moi $564.48
Robert H $489.69
Adam Clayton $481.04
Raymond Verdegan $443.58
Jeff Riehl $436.35
Ray Allen $414.72
Jody Stout $413.28
Claye Kelson $394.19
Gavro Marashi $383.57
Tom Brady $370.34

Wow, with the money Ray Allen and Tom Brady make, I would think they'd gamble at real books rather than at centsports. I guess they really wanna beat their friends :shrug:
 

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I just signed up. I'm gonna be rich. Did anyone know you can actually bet on WNBA games?

I've had an account there for a while--got it up to 3.65 one time before letting it ride on a total in an MLB game...cool thing is, lose your dime, they give you another one and you start over...:D

You can bet parlays, too. At least in the same sport; not sure about cross sport parlays....:shrug:

got me some action on the soccer today....:00x15



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