Hilarious. I was thinking the same thing. Seem to be a lot of them defending Brady and the Pats.
OPINIONS WANTED!! RAVENS v. PATRIOTS
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Hilarious. I was thinking the same thing. Seem to be a lot of them defending Brady and the Pats.
Line was baited out there to get action to bring the number down, vegas wants a 50/50 split so they take the vig - meaning they want action on both sides, when the line moves down some people follow the line down and will bet accordingly, if you have a sharp number and you know the number is too high then you should have taken Balt +9 1/2 (I did), wait until it falls where you want then pounce on it, at 9 1/2 the chances of NE winning by 10 are not that great - why? Basically same teams as last year in AFC Championship, NE won by how many? 3 pts right?!! Have the personnel changed at all this year for either teams? A lil, but basically same two teams, if my memory serves me right, Gronk was out for that game too. NE lost by 1 at Baltimore this year by 1 with all the scab-refs right? Didn't Bellichek try to mug a ref on the way out of the game?
Ravens play tough in the dog role, NE not so great giving points in the Post-Season - other than ripping Houston a new one. Ravens still have a defense that is much healthier now (check Ray Lewis status) and special teams is what is going to influence this game, field position and who coughs up the ball. You know that Suggs and the Ravens ball hawks are going to try and give the speed up offense fits and different looks, something that Brady senses but doesn't always make the right throws - he doesn't throw too many INT's and he will throw the ball away into the stands or sidelines.
This is a 3-6 pt game max, if it turns out to be a blowout - I have plenty of birds too eat. Crow, sqwab, guineas.
One last factor - hasn't the WC team the last 2 years gone to the Super Bowl? I think NYG won last year with an 8-8 record going into post-season. Green Bay a couple years before vs Pittsburgh.
GL on whatever team you play!!
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Ravens play tough in the dog role, NE not so great giving points in the Post-Season - other than ripping Houston a new one. Ravens still have a defense that is much healthier now (check Ray Lewis status) and special teams is what is going to influence this game, field position and who coughs up the ball. You know that Suggs and the Ravens ball hawks are going to try and give the speed up offense fits and different looks, something that Brady senses but doesn't always make the right throws - he doesn't throw too many INT's and he will throw the ball away into the stands or sidelines.
This is a 3-6 pt game max, if it turns out to be a blowout - I have plenty of birds too eat. Crow, sqwab, guineas.
One last factor - hasn't the WC team the last 2 years gone to the Super Bowl? I think NYG won last year with an 8-8 record going into post-season. Green Bay a couple years before vs Pittsburgh.
GL on whatever team you play!!
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Ridiculous. No one needs to "defend" Brady, Belichick or the Pats. Just like no one needs to "defend" Flaccid, Lewis or the Ravens. (Crap, my spellcheck just substituted that for Flacco. It must be a Canadian spellcheck. :facepalm
This is about gambling and money. Well I guess not for some of you fans.
Ridiculous. No one needs to "defend" Brady, Belichick or the Pats. Just like no one needs to "defend" Flaccid, Lewis or the Ravens. (Crap, my spellcheck just substituted that for Flacco. It must be a Canadian spellcheck. :facepalm
This is about gambling and money. Well I guess not for some of you fans.
not a shot...just seemed like nearly every canadian is a pats backer...maybe it`s the single payer healthcare systems that they have in common?.....
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I greatly appreciate the input from everyone.
I thought the number would be 6.5 or 7 but I wanted to make sure that I wasn't seeing that point of view through my purple shaded glasses. The further the season goes, the more purple they get.
I agree with Addict, if the line were 7 or under, there would be a huge flux of money on the Pats.
When you think about it, there isn't much difference between a spread of 7.5 and 9. It's possible that, knowing there will be a ton of money with the Pats on a teaser (knock it down from -9 to -3 on a 6 pointer), Vegas made it 9/9.5 for that very reason.
Bettors always over react to the last game which is why you may be seeing more public interest in Baltimore this week. Yes, New England won their game handily, but the Ravens win was sexy and the public likes to be on that side.
I am still at war with my intellect, my heart and my very soul about his game, very similar to last week. I will post my pick by Saturday noon.
Few random points I want to make now:
-I feel strongly that the Patriots would have beaten the Broncos on a neutral field.
-To the folks who think the Ravens "stole" that game last week...Take away the 2 freebie touchdowns on special teams, then the Ravens won handily
-The Ravens want revenge on the Pats from last years heart break loss. The Pats want to blowout the Ravens to shut them up once and for all. They want to prove that they are undeniably the best team out there with the superior QB. Motivation for this game=Very Equal
-Ravens have very little answer for the Patriots arrow route pass, basically when Brady hits his RB full speed coming out of the backfield running a diagonal route. They resulted in BIG plays for the Pats last week.
Research Project:
How do road dogs who win against a 2 score favorite, do the following week as a big road dog, IN THE PLAYOFFS??
If anyone has these #s, I would greatly appreciate them@
my opinion is.....i'm waiting for your opinion
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as for last week.....one point i disagree.....take away den 2 special teams td and it's a 7 point balt lead with den possessing the ball around midfield with 3 mins left......no doubt they get into scoring range and likely tie (vs trying to run clock out) and send to overtime......exactly the way it played out.
game looked pretty even from my chair and was glad i was on balt +.....the ml was a nice bonus.
Dang it Coach MJ I was on a roll!!! ::::::thud:::::: Didn't Cincy win the DIV? I don't care, Ravens WIN!!
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Oh man Rattler, you're killin me!!! Now I have to do research again? I'm running out of Coors Light!!
BRB :0002
My brain don't go that far back Rattler, but in 2011 Jets, if you can believe were +9 dogs and won, loss to SuperBowl team Pittsburgh by 5, as a 4 pt dog, and in 2010, Jets again were +9 1/2 pt doggies and won 17-14, then lost to Indy Colts as a 7 1/2 pt dog. Colts went to SB vs Saints, and Pittsburgh went to SB vs Green Bay. Imagine that Jets fans!!!
In 2001, Ravens were?????DOGS TO GIANTS? is that right? How about the week before? This is where I wish I could find my old stats/tracking sheets before I moved!!
Maybe JNG or MadJack have those numbers?
In 2001, Ravens were?????DOGS TO GIANTS? is that right? How about the week before? This is where I wish I could find my old stats/tracking sheets before I moved!!
Maybe JNG or MadJack have those numbers?
Rattler there is a HUGE difference on teasers between 7.5 and 9 ... one way goes to +15 and the other goes -1.5 ... so 9 -9.5 affects both of those bets BIG opcorn2
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First reaction is the line is too high. Balty played them tight in sane spot last year and should of won. Balty beat them earlier this year and Lewis is playing for his "life!" I'm actually rooting for Balty cause of Matt Birk but now I'm convinced the Ravens get destroyed!! Pats D much better now and feel Patties were playing a littke possum. All the breaks went Balties way earlier. Brady too much, I'll admit Flaccid much better than I thought and Torey Smith is playmaker but just don't trust them.
Scrapman - you keep saying Texans Defense is better than Denver and Baltimore.. Please they SUCK
Scrapman - you keep saying Texans Defense is better than Denver and Baltimore.. Please they SUCK
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Patriots lat year as in print in thr marc Lawrence Playbook game day odds were Pats -7 won squeaker 23 -20
here is Patriots Playoff games past 3 years
at home
2011 - 7 vs balty L $ 23-20
2010 - 9 vs Jets ( who changed up defense)
LOST the fucking game 28-21
2009 - 3.5 points vs Baltimore LOST the freaking Game and wow it was ugly worst playoff home loss ever for patriots 33- 14 ass kicking
here is Patriots Playoff games past 3 years
at home
2011 - 7 vs balty L $ 23-20
2010 - 9 vs Jets ( who changed up defense)
LOST the fucking game 28-21
2009 - 3.5 points vs Baltimore LOST the freaking Game and wow it was ugly worst playoff home loss ever for patriots 33- 14 ass kicking
I'm digging deep boys! If anyone has a site where I can look at previous years spreads would be GREATLY appreciated. The 2 sites I use only go back as far as 2005-2006
THANKS!!
I borrowed this info from the Gold Sheet, Mr R, hope this info helps:
AFC/NFL Championships
Favored by 3?-6? points .............................................. 14-13-2
Favored by 7-9? points ...................................................... 15-5
