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tball

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well, that makes this easy then

well, that makes this easy then

and kinda figures as cutler and the stud RB forte are clearly the sexier pick.

i'll take the pack pleez. its the cheeziest. rodgers gets it done.

should be fun watchin harvin on that turf though...;)
 

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I am so very in!!

I'll send you the link the Packer deluxe jock strap later. (Medium)

J
 

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So far I have

gjn23, bigdaddy, and bbc all in for the bears

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Packers4life ( Favre involved), tball and jng for the Pack

Need 4 more... This is shaping up a good mix.. Really hoping for 5 and 5..
 
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I am so very in!!

I'll send you the link the Packer deluxe jock strap later. (Medium)

J

I can see the Bears winning the division but I really think the Pack are in for a long season.. Not because I am biased, but because the defense is going to be flat out terrible. I am bored at work so I will go into a speel.
Offensively the Pack will be the best in the division no doubt about it.. Rodgers is good and Ryan Grant healthy for a whole season is key. Solid receiving corps and watch out for that TE they drafted from Texas last year. I would be a little bit worried about the offensive line though.

Defensively, MLB Barnett comes back from injury and should help immensely, but AJ Hawk needs to have a good year, he has been rather dissappointing. The Pack's D was shredded last year on the ground and injuries did attribute to that.. They change to a 3-4 and most teams struggle changing to a 3 -4 in the first year. The secondary is getting old, I just do not see them stopping the run this year. Next year I will not be making this bet because I fully expect the Pack's D to get better when Raiji and Mathews will be in their second year.. Well I probably still willl make the bet next year too.. So if I am wrong about the Pack's D then watch out... So if I had to lose this bet and I have 5 and 5, I hope I lose it to the Bears..
 

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Hey!

No bias here either . . .

Harris, Williams, Woodson could (could!) have great years with safeties Bigsby and Collins pushed hard by their back ups and the new 3-4 might lead to an increased tendency to blitz and an improvement in GB's excellent record of holding opposing QBs to a 72 rating--league's fourth best.

Lee and Blackmon are more than capable back ups and maybe Harris' and Woodson's old bodies can stay fit for another 20 games or so. Brandon Underwood could be a fast-learning rookie. (The Bearcats played a 3-4 more or less, right?) Underwood's still trying to heal a weight room injury and could end up on the short end of late cuts.

Might Woodson end up a safety cuz he's slowed? Not sure. Could Tramon Wilson need to cover for Harris' decreased speed. Or . . . could Harris' experience show big in the 3-4 where he might have more time to read QBs and get some picks.

Jarrett Bush is ready--I think--to play CB or S but he needs a pretty good training camp to move up on the depth charts.

Best receiving corps in the league!! Again, no possible bias behind this call.

Raji? C'mon ,you dick, forget about watching Crabtree and sign the deal. Prove you belong and get a wheel barrow full of cash later.

Evan Moore needs a good finger splint, a great attitude and he could get some playing time this year instead of sitting and watching without buying a ticket.

Ryan Pickett's too fat. NT in the 3-4 has to be more agile and he needs to drop 10 pounds or more.

Pickett needs to show the same dedication that DE Justin Harrell did in dropping 10-12 pounds of fat off season and coming to camp solid. Obviously, another key position in the new defensive alignment. Or any defensive allignment

We lost Aaron Humphrey--TE--with a cracked forearm, today. Depth is there but . . .

Ryan Grant! Maybe 1000, maybe 1500 yards. Or maybe the OL doesn't open any holes at all and the Pack becomes one dimensional again carried on Rodgers' back. Not a good scenario, if you ask me.

Deshawn Wynn (who?) the former Florida star seems to have seen the light and came to camp under 230 with the winning attitude very much missing in his first couple injury-prone years. In a few months we might be saying, "Ryan Who?" Or maybe Wynn reverts to his post-Gators suckitude and Brandon Jackson stays the solid #2 back. The OL, I think will be much improved this year and the Pack will average 28+points/game. (26 average last year was not too shabby with a brand new QB and injuries galore.)

If the defense gives up that same 28, it will be a long year, though. 10 starters return, but . . . they're returning from a defense responsible for most of GB's losses. New coaches, new D scheme and more wins. Kampman will adjust and absolutely kill in this new defense. This is Desmond Bishop's year!

Walker, Jennings, Driver and more. Love 'em.

In summary, a great new pass rush and a solid set of DBs reverse the 6-10 to 10-6. The offense gets even better as Rodgers show more toughness and leadership and the Pack has the best set of RBs in a lot of years.

I want my jock strap prize!! (Medium)

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I think you are on with most of your offensive speculation but Wynn will not make you forget about Ryan Grant. I think you have over evaluated some players especially the secondary.. Pass Rush? Who is going to do that? I know Kampman is good but I know he isn't exactly thrilled with this new scheme.
 

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OK, a little hyperbolic about Wynn. And perhaps about the secondary. And, dammit, if the pass rush looks like last year's, I might not get that jock. If I were Kampman, I might have wanted them to build a new defensive plan around me and not revamp everything. On the other hand, boy we needed some kind of major revamp.

J
 

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and kinda figures as cutler and the stud RB forte are clearly the sexier pick.

i'll take the pack pleez. its the cheeziest. rodgers gets it done.

should be fun watchin harvin on that turf though...;)


GB for $50? is that what i neded to say???:sadwave:
 

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OK, a little hyperbolic about Wynn. And perhaps about the secondary. And, dammit, if the pass rush looks like last year's, I might not get that jock. If I were Kampman, I might have wanted them to build a new defensive plan around me and not revamp everything. On the other hand, boy we needed some kind of major revamp.

J


Well you never know. Pass rush can't be as bad as last years.. The Vikes have some holes and I think I have time to do a thread on them..
 

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I am all in for 50$, pack wll win this division at 10-6.

Offence will be solid like last year and the defence wont blow games like they did last year.
 

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So far I have

gjn23, bigdaddy, and bbc all in for the bears

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Packers4life ( Favre involved), tball, wormdog and jng for the Pack

Need 3 more... . What happened to the Bear fans? Why the hell are the Packer fans so confident. They should know by watching the Vikes when they had Moss that defense is needed to win. I still can't believe people were blaming Moss and Carter for losing when the defense was in the bottom 3 for years.
 

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Well you will have fun this year and it will def not be boring. Good luck I knew it all along , its simple the guy just loves to play ball .
 

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You are in.. I don't know why you think the defense will be any better this year? You must think that the Vikes won't win 10. I think they get at least that, but who knows.

The defence will be better due to the scheme switch, its that simple. They put very little pressure on the qb last year, they sat back and played prevent D with the lead , let teams back in the game.

This year will be different, Dom Capers turns them into the old pressure oriented carolina Defence.

At the end of the day , as good and effecient as the offence will be, the Defence just has to be avg.

Last year they were terrible and the only reason they were below .500.

The D will finish 10 - 15th ranked which will be more than enuff to win.

they get some guys back on D totallly healthy (barnett etc) and ryan grant will be healthy

Please see game 1 against clevenland with 40 mins of ball possession.

Favre going to minny wont make much of a diff.

THey are the vikes, they always find a way to lose.
it is what it is vikes fans.

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The defence will be better due to the scheme switch, its that simple. They put very little pressure on the qb last year, they sat back and played prevent D with the lead , let teams back in the game.

This year will be different, Dom Capers turns them into the old pressure oriented carolina Defence.

At the end of the day , as good and effecient as the offence will be, the Defence just has to be avg.

Last year they were terrible and the only reason they were below .500.

The D will finish 10 - 15th ranked which will be more than enuff to win.

they get some guys back on D totallly healthy (barnett etc) and ryan grant will be healthy

Please see game 1 against clevenland with 40 mins of ball possession.

Favre going to minny wont make much of a diff.

THey are the vikes, they always find a way to lose.
it is what it is vikes fans.

:mj07:

1. Most teams that change into a 3 - 4 scheme struggle in the initial year to the switch. May not happen this year but it is highly likely that they struggle.
2. Green Bay has only one solid proven pass rusher in Kampman.
3. Your quote, "Please see game 1 against cleveland with 40 mins of ball possession." :mj07: You are referring to how good your team is going to be by a GAME 1 PRE SEASON game against the BROWNS! :mj07: :mj07: :mj07:
 

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1. Most teams that change into a 3 - 4 scheme struggle in the initial year to the switch. May not happen this year but it is highly likely that they struggle.
2. Green Bay has only one solid proven pass rusher in Kampman.
3. Your quote, "Please see game 1 against cleveland with 40 mins of ball possession." :mj07: You are referring to how good your team is going to be by a GAME 1 PRE SEASON game against the BROWNS! :mj07: :mj07: :mj07:

you asked how their d would be better and why 10-6

the d had 4 ints, had pressure on qb all night. #1 offence cant be stopped = well rested def

instead of sitting on their asses, they will dictate on def this year.

they lost half their games by 3 or less last year, the new d and effecient off flips the 6-10 to 10-6

make sure you save this post for the end of the year, you know i will
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