PFC Jessica Lynch: I am sorry to report.......You are not a hero.

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Excuse me, please. I know this gal went to war with the rest of the kids, but what the hell did she do to aquire this "hero" status?

Take a wrong turn and get caught by some towel heads? I'm sorry, but I don't see any Sgt York story here, or even Forest Gump!

So she was a POW for a few days.......what's heroic about that? Did she fight her way out of her situation? No.....she was rescued. Perhaps the fellas who saved her ass could be considered heros?

Maybe this hillbilly, and her kin in Mayberry, can sit around the general store and spit 'tabacky' over war stories, but she didn't do anything worthy of the hero moniker she has been granted.

God bless her safe return, but let's not go overboard. (Which I am certain we will!) The talk shows will have her on, the made for tv movies will be aired, and the other hoopla will ensue. What about the soldiers who died over there?

The ever-present media circus spun this tale into the storm it has become, by saying she was shot, stabbed, killed several attackers, and none of it was true. I hope she stands tall and says, "I am no hero."

We shall see..........
 

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YYZ ~ I don't think I have ever been more offended by a comment in my life, not even Pee Pee calling me a dyke. How can you as an AMERICAN even make a statement like that? She is a hero for joining the service and committing to going over to another country to protect your sorry arse.

Every man and woman over there .. hell every man and woman in any branch of the service is a hero.

I hate to say this but I think you are an idiot. My God how unpatrioctic you jackzz.

Miss Missy
 

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Well said yyz ... the men and women who died over there are the real heroes ... although anyone who fights for our country deserves recognition, she did nothing at all special but get caught rather than killed. The media are a bunch of morons and we already know how many hippie-ass bandwagon jumpers we have in this country who make a big deal out of anything the media bring to light.
 

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Jasonsmom, I never called you a dyke. That was Eddie. Also, don't let this idiot yyz get you riled up. He has a habit of divebombing into threads making fun of everybody. Other than barfly, he is probably the least liked player in my contests.

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I'll tell you how he can say it JM, because it makes me puke the way we throw around the word HERO in this country now. Sometime long ago it was reserved for people who truly deserved it, now every role model, athlete or someone who stands out in the public eye gets called a hero. Mark McGuire was a "hero" to kids during his home run chase. Give me a break.

I'm not as against her getting publicity as yyz, but in her case more than any other there are a lot of questions surrounding it, all of them admitted by the Pentagon. Was she really tortured? The iraqis claim no, and even the Pentagon says maybe those injuries were sustained during her capture. She said for the most part she was treated well. And during the "dramatic and daring" raid to rescue her, the hospital was virtually abandoned. Im not saying we shouldnt praise her for serving her country, as I have praised the men and women over there more than once, but to hold her out as this all-that-is-holy hero is over the top for even me.

Where are the cameras for the regular grunt soldiers coming home? Why not a Blackhawk escort and media frenzy for the front line supply Sargent leading his troops into battle when he comes home to his wife and kids? What about those two Apache pilots who were shot down, tortured and rescued? They got like 5 seconds of tv time, then it was on to the next story. We throw the word HERO around so much now that its the MEDIA who decide and tell us who is and isnt going to be a hero. Regular men and women soldiers who risk their life just as much as the next person get shuffled to the background if their story cant be made into a made for tv movie by CBS. Makes me sick, as all the men and women in uniform deserve to be recognized.
 
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Well, I guess opinions are like azzholes and everyone has one. I regard every single soldier as a hero whather their "appache helicopter gets shot down or they take a wrong turn and get caught." I don't think you can find ONE SOLIDER who will agree with you, one AMERICAN who will agree with you.

If someone regards someone as a hero then I guess it is their opionion. My sons looks at me like I am a hero, and as far as I know only him and Pee Pee think of me as so. I think Miss Lynch is a HERO. She risk her life so that I can taste freedom for that I am and always will be enternally grateful to her and EVERY SINGLE UNITED STATES SOLIDER.

Miss Missy
 

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Hero and Great. Two most over used words in America. Kobe is great. We shall see. Lynch is a hero? Not sure if that is true. I know the folks who took a risk to save her are more to the word Hero. Even if it ended up being a cake walk. I dont think these guys new it would be as easy as it was. She is as many of our soldiers doing the duty she joined the service to do. To get all the way up to hero takes some tough work and some heroic actions against the enemy. I honor here for joining the service. I give her credit for wanting to do some thing extra. I give that to all those who have joined. I honor all those that have died. And yes for givieng there lives Hero seems correct word. I can only pray we dont have to many more heros in this action that seems to have no reason left to it.
 

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Justinsmom ... you are exactly right ... regard every soldier who fights for this country a hero then ... the thing that pisses me off is that she gets portrayed like she is more worthy of being a hero than anyone else who was and is still over there. I am assuming that is what most people who are annoyed by her publicity are referring to. There were thousands of people over there fighting for this country and yet she is getting special treatment that no one else over there got. That is what pisses me off ... nothing against her in general.
 

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JM, thats fine. As I have said, I am grateful to every US solider and have sent care packages to three guys over there. But to me the word "hero" is something I hold very dear and something reserved for the best of the best, the upper echelon. Just because I dont think she is a hero doesnt mean I am not eternally grateful for her service to this country, because I certainly am. I fly my flag every day and look out my balcony to Iwo Jima and Arlington National Cemetary remembering all the soldiers that have died and being thankful for every man an women in uniform, including my father who spent 32 years in the military.

But yes, to me earning the right to be called a "hero" involves something very, very special.
 
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I certainly believe that EVERY man and woman that goes to war to protect our country should be praised for their contribution. I also agree that the media does pump alot of air into some stories that they think will get their columns read or their shows watched. I understand what you guys are saying about the "hero status". What I don't understand is how you can call her names. That girl went through alot, even if she was treated well. Could you imagine not knowing what could happen to you from one minute to the next? Maybe she didn't fight her way out, or kill a ton of Iraqis, but she did serve our country and survive probably the most horrifying time of her young life. To us sitting by our televisions it might have looked like it was easy, but I really doubt it was easy for her. So, she is getting some recognition for it. I say if you don't like what is being said, just change the channel.
 

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I think if you single anyone out as a hero in the Jessica Lynch saga, you'd have to say it was the Iraqi doctor who informed American authorities she was captive in the hospital. Why him? Because he risked his life WITHOUT HAVING to.
Even the rescue team who pulled her out...displaying great HEROICS, were only doing what they are told and get paid to do.


As a side note here, a relative is a NYC fireman. People often ask him what it "feels like" to be a hero. He always laughs and says he'd only be a hero if he did the things he did without accepting the paycheck.
 

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there was the same type of ceremonies for the other pow's when they went home. although there was tv coverage of those events, it wasn't any where like lynch has received.
i think the reason for the big hype of lynch compared to the others was because she was in a hospital & was rescued by other soldiers.
if these cereemonies make people happy & prideful,i don't see why other people should object to these ceremonies. i also think that because the viet nam soldiers were basically ignored, we now go to the max to show our appreciation for the citizens that serve in the military.
 

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JRoot you are an idiot and I hope that your mother, sister & daughters never incounter a boy like you in their lifetimes.

To my Lynch is a hero! Enough said.

Miss Missy
 

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Justinsmom829 said:
YYZ ~ I don't think I have ever been more offended by a comment in my life



You should get out more often.



Hey....... hip, hip, hooray for her joining the service. Everyone over there DOES deserve a hearty handshake. All I am saying, and what most everyone else seems to grasp is, she is far from special.

Being placed in a traumatic situation does not warrant you being hailed as a hero. You wanna talk about offensive? Ask a few men and women who served in this war if they feel offended by her being singled out as a hero.

I'm sure there were plenty of battles in the history of this great country, where some guy holed up in some cubby hole, while his comrads got slaughtered. After the smoke cleared, he heads off to the rest of the troops, and is hailed a hero for surviving such an ordeal.........Little did they know. Of course, this coward 'served his country', so he should be honored, right?

This obviously doesn't pertain to Lynch's situation, but not everyone pulls the same load in battle.

I am grateful for the men and women who have, and will continue to, protect our lives against whatever it is that the government says we need to be protected from.

I wish them, and you, all the best.
 

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yyz said:
You should get out more often.

You have overstepped my patriotic bounderies.


Hey....... hip, hip, hooray for her joining the service. Everyone over there DOES deserve a hearty handshake. All I am saying, and what most everyone else seems to grasp is, she is far from special.

All soliders are SPECIALS no matter what not just the ones that die.

Being placed in a traumatic situation does not warrant you being hailed as a hero. You wanna talk about offensive? Ask a few men and women who served in this war if they feel offended by her being singled out as a hero.

I would like to see you placed in the same or even similar situation and see how you handle it. I have a few soliders that I know and all regard her as a HERO just like they regard every other solider as a hero.

I'm sure there were plenty of battles in the history of this great country, where some guy holed up in some cubby hole, while his comrads got slaughtered. After the smoke cleared, he heads off to the rest of the troops, and is hailed a hero for surviving such an ordeal.........Little did they know. Of course, this coward 'served his country', so he should be honored, right?

This obviously doesn't pertain to Lynch's situation, but not everyone pulls the same load in battle.

NOT EVEN CLOSE TO THE SAME SITUATION

I am grateful for the men and women who have, and will continue to, protect our lives against whatever it is that the government says we need to be protected from.

You have a funny way of showing it. It seems to me that the only ones that you regard as heros are the ones that die or fight in major battles. RIDICULUS. What about the doctors who are soliders or nurses who are soliders. All of them are heros to me.

I wish them, and you, all the best.

And you also.

Miss Missy
 

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zoomer,

just a fyi, that doctor who helped lynch is now living in the us. don't know if him & his family are citizens yet, but i think there are plans for them to become citizens.
 

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I think that the rest of the people that were captured, women and men, should all get the same treatment!

JM......nobody is taking anything away from the woman, they are merely making a point about how the media has made a hey day out of Lynch and the rest of the POW's have been all but forgotten! They are not taking shots at her personally just trying to reason out why she is getting a halogen spotlight and the others are barely getting to hold a mini mag-lite for themselves?:shrug:

Personally I think it is because she is a good looking, marketable figure.........That is just how screwed up our media is!
 

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Hero is a special word that gets thrown around way too much by the media as well as simple minded people.

Lynch deserves credit and our thanks for ENLISTING in the military. Nothing more, nothing less.

Also....Missy, it's encounter. And I'm the idiot?
 

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YYZ I completely agree with you, could not have said it better myself. She was A POW people! You are not A HERO!!! for being captured by taking a wrong turn. If anything, the people who saved her are heroes.

Many defentions in the dictionary apply to literary works, but one that does not lists a hero as:

"an object of extreme admiration and devotion"

I for one do not admire her!

Don't get me wrong, I am glad that she is home safe and that she is serving our country, but please, what about all the other soldiers who are fighting over there and the ones that have died, shouldn't they all get a purple heart and a bronze star and a hero's parade, or what about all the people who fought in Vietnam, who got shat on when they returned home? What about them? I could go on for days, but hero should not be a word thrown around like a pile of shit, but should be reserved for those who are truly heros and not who get captured by taking a wrong turn!
 
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