Pinnacle shutting down to U.S. customers

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Not quite the dumbest thing I've heard, but close if you do this for a living.

how is this dumb? If i can get 1 point more somewhere else i should stay put at pinnacle and save five bucks on a hundred?:shrug:
 

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anyone paid?

anyone paid?

If you ever played at Pinnacle you would know why it is a dumb statement. There lines were consistently better all the way around. Not only lower juice on straight bets but on totals and money lines as well. Has anyone been paid yet? I requested a payout this afternoon and it hasn't even been taken out of my account yet. Getting a little worried.
 

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If you ever played at Pinnacle you would know why it is a dumb statement. There lines were consistently better all the way around. Not only lower juice on straight bets but on totals and money lines as well. Has anyone been paid yet? I requested a payout this afternoon and it hasn't even been taken out of my account yet. Getting a little worried.

No bud what is really dumb is anyone that plays there because dogs win at a much higher percentage than favorites. Im a dog player and id much rather get two points more than some reduce juice. You are in a way rooting to lose. I think i found out now why the books win more than the public. Yes pinnacle is a solid book and they know they are because they cater to squares and they also know their lines are for squares and they also know there reduce juice sucks in squares. If i win a game by a half point which would have been a loss at pinnacle i way way way ahead of the game. And trust me the pinnacle board is on my computer at all time3s when im handicapping.
 

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No bud what is really dumb is anyone that plays there because dogs win at a much higher percentage than favorites. Im a dog player and id much rather get two points more than some reduce juice. You are in a way rooting to lose. I think i found out now why the books win more than the public. Yes pinnacle is a solid book and they know they are because they cater to squares and they also know their lines are for squares and they also know there reduce juice sucks in squares. If i win a game by a half point which would have been a loss at pinnacle i way way way ahead of the game. And trust me the pinnacle board is on my computer at all time3s when im handicapping.

just curious as to where you play if you play alot of dogs? Bodog?? they seem to always have a higher line on favorites than anyone else
 

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Why do you think you would be able to get 2 points better somewhere else? I dont care that you cant grasp this concept. I have half a dozen books I play at and I play the game at the best line I can get. If all things are equal, which most of the time they are. I would rather get -104 than -110.
 

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No bud what is really dumb is anyone that plays there because dogs win at a much higher percentage than favorites. Im a dog player and id much rather get two points more than some reduce juice. You are in a way rooting to lose. I think i found out now why the books win more than the public. Yes pinnacle is a solid book and they know they are because they cater to squares and they also know their lines are for squares and they also know there reduce juice sucks in squares. If i win a game by a half point which would have been a loss at pinnacle i way way way ahead of the game. And trust me the pinnacle board is on my computer at all time3s when im handicapping.

if you think pinnacle catered to squares, you have no idea what the fawk you are talking about. they took more sharp action than anyone.
 

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Pinnacle is THE dog book btw... highest moneylines around, alternate lines...

i would stop defending a point which was wrong in the first place
 

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if you think pinnacle catered to squares, you have no idea what the fawk you are talking about. they took more sharp action than anyone.

They cater to squares because of their lines and the only reason sharps will go there is because they were super reliable and to middle games and the amount you can bet is high. You love the book because you most likely bet favorites and rarely are their lines the same as everyone elses. they are notoriously a half point lover than everyone else. To cater to suckers.
 

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just curious as to where you play if you play alot of dogs? Bodog?? they seem to always have a higher line on favorites than anyone else

yes dice but im ready to go back to SIA as soon as this other stuff clears up. I hated SIA but it looks like they have upgraded their site which was my big problem with them. The site looks solid now. I just don't like their max wager limits.
 

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If you ever played at Pinnacle you would know why it is a dumb statement. There lines were consistently better all the way around. Not only lower juice on straight bets but on totals and money lines as well. Has anyone been paid yet? I requested a payout this afternoon and it hasn't even been taken out of my account yet. Getting a little worried.

i played at pinnacle genuis and i got tired of losing by a half point so i took my money and left when i knew i could have been winning at other sites. The lines are better all the way around because you are a favorite bettor and its that simple. You just cant figure it out.
 

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sponge, ever feel like you are going 1000 vs. 1 at all?. oh wait, that's every time.


you remind me of that cold pizza guy, what the hell is his name, oh thats right, skip bayless.

going against the grain for the hell of it, it seems.
 
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i played at pinnacle genuis and i got tired of losing by a half point so i took my money and left when i knew i could have been winning at other sites. The lines are better all the way around because you are a favorite bettor and its that simple. You just cant figure it out.

not being a wise acre here........but if a book is getting alot of Dog action wouldnt the line roll in favor of the favorite and if a book(Bodog) is receiving tons of action on a favorite wouldnt the line favor the dog.........know a few guys who are on Bodog and they couldnt pick out a set of tits at a nudist colony.......heard bodog was the squarest around.......a so called square to my understanding doesn't shop for lines......they say things like "Eagles will slaughter the Giants, its my lock of the weekend".......
 

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sponge why dont you head out and return with dog lines of any nfl game this weekend, whether spread or ml, that make pinn look like a square catering puppybook.

GL
 

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not being a wise acre here........but if a book is getting alot of Dog action wouldnt the line roll in favor of the favorite and if a book(Bodog) is receiving tons of action on a favorite wouldnt the line favor the dog.........know a few guys who are on Bodog and they couldnt pick out a set of tits at a nudist colony.......heard bodog was the squarest around.......a so called square to my understanding doesn't shop for lines......they say things like "Eagles will slaughter the Giants, its my lock of the weekend".......

Dice they move their lines to sucker people its not dog action. They know what they are doing. You will notoroiusly see their lines lower than everyones right from the start. If i was a favorite bettor i would be all over pinnacle or greek and nobody else. You ever see when all the books move their lines at once? Why you think they do that? You think they all got hit at the same tiime by a bunch of bettors? No smart dog bettor in the world would bet with this book. Bodog could be squares but they would be foolish to be betting there when they could get way better lines at Pinny. I know im way in the minority with these things im saying but the minority is also the people who win. You learn a lot when you have done this for 30 years and you learn from losing. oh and i know you were not being a smart ass. oh and your part about squares not shopping for lines that is probably true also but then they see this book with unbelievable lines they run to it just like the book wants them to.
 

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here are the lines at pinnacle and bodog

here are the lines at pinnacle and bodog

pinnacle
indy +4 -106

bodog
indy +4 -115

pinnacle
philly +6 -113

bodog
philly +6 -115

pinnacle
seattle +9' -110

bodog
seattle +8' -110

pinnacle
new england +4' even

bodog
new england +4' -110
 

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Okay this is a perfect example. A favorite bettor this weekend will look at this board and say to themselves Chic has the least likely chance to cover the spread. If there is any favorite out there a favorite bettor will not bet its Chicago. Now go to Pinnacle. They have the line at Chic 9.5 Now go to SIA. They have the game at 8.5. Pinnnacle is pushing for dog action in this game and you fav bettors very well know you will take this one dog at pinny getting 9.5. what im saying is that they work off of the pulse of the square bettor and that line at 9.5 says it all.
 
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They cater to squares because of their lines and the only reason sharps will go there is because they were super reliable and to middle games and the amount you can bet is high. You love the book because you most likely bet favorites and rarely are their lines the same as everyone elses. they are notoriously a half point lover than everyone else. To cater to suckers.

i play 95+% dogs. go fish.
 
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