POLITICAL DISCUSSION "Should voting age be changed to allow for life experience?

[Dead Money]

I found this discussion interesting....I know a couple 18 year old family acquaintances that can barely mow a lawn...much less understand the power and consequences of their voting right.

Credit the 18 yr old voting right to Vietnam; voter age was lowered in tune with the protesters mantra..."If I can kill or be killed for my country, I should be able to vote."
For today's younger crowd, protesting in the late 60's was an art form.


Article here, http://markstcyr.com/2015/06/07/should-we-raise-the-voting-age/

An excerpt...

"Should a person or group that has never experienced what is known by all as ?real life? while simultaneously being seen by many legal standards as not having the full credentials to be recognized as an ?adult? have the ability to vote directly for, or vote for candidates responsible in the setting of the nations wage laws, tax laws, business law, national debt, business tax structures, business mandates, international trade policies, monetary policy, or most importantly ? whether to send their brethren off to war where people die for real ? not in some video game or movie?
All the while they?ve never been responsible for anything more than ?school? and in many cases not subject to feel the direct consequences of their votes until some 8 years or even longer after the age of 18?" :00x31

 

[yyz]

We should go back to only land owners voting.

 

[Duff Miver]

We should go back to only land owners voting.

Tell us , oh wise one, why all citizens should not vote.

 

[MadJack]

Tell us , oh wise one, why all citizens should not vote.

opcorn2

 

[REFLOG]

We should go back to only land owners voting.

:SIB

 

[hedgehog]

We should go back to only land owners voting.

This

 

[THE KOD]

Tell us , oh wise one, why all citizens should not vote.

i can answer


so they can keep out the Obama;s and Clintons from POTUS



they want teddy cruz only

 

[hedgehog]

i can answer


so they can keep out the Obama;s and Clintons from POTUS



they want teddy cruz only

Back in the day only the producers voted and this country was much better


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[shawn555]

Back in the day only the producers voted and this country was much better


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What exactly do you produce, besides crime and divorce.

You are part of the problem fatty.

 

[ChrryBlstr]

Back in the day only the producers voted and this country was much better


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You do realize that this has never been the case in your lifetime, which gives you no frame of reference to truly "know" whether or not the "country was much better."

Peace!

 

[hedgehog]

You do realize that this has never been the case in your lifetime, which gives you no frame of reference to truly "know" whether or not the "country was much better."

Peace!

I just love to aggravate you all...

I think you should have to have an id to vote and be 18 thats all is needed, and be able to read :0008

 

[shawn555]

I just love to aggravate you all...

I think you should have to have an id to vote and be 18 thats all is needed, and be able to read :0008

So you are just full of shit like we all know.

Got it.

 

[smurphy]

Back in the day only the producers voted and this country was much better


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Do not say "Why were the former days better than these?" For you do not inquire wisely concerning this.

-Ecclesiastes 7:10

 

[fatdaddycool]

Back in the day only the producers voted and this country was much better


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How the fuck would you know stupid? You still don't even know that today's Democrats were the Republican party just last century. How was it better numbskull? Was medicine and health care better? How about infrastructure and gender and race equality? Of course, there it is. ...... you might have been able to hang you one of them uppity niggers for breathing all your open mouth breathing air. Fucking ignorant boob.

 

[fatdaddycool]

I just love to aggravate you all...

I think you should have to have an id to vote and be 18 thats all is needed, and be able to read :0008

Be able to read? That excludes you, you know that right?

 

[Turfgrass]

Owning land sounds like a good start...it would encourage ownership and increase revenue as ownership increases.

I also would like to see, in lieu of property ownership, some form of service...military or some social service, right out of high school, or college.

I just wish there was something in place, because I take the time to be informed about the candidates and someone who might not be a citizen of this country can cancel out my vote.

If voting were held in higher regard, I think more people would use it wiser.

:0008

 

[Duff Miver]

Owning land sounds like a good start...it would encourage ownership and increase revenue as ownership increases.

I also would like to see, in lieu of property ownership, some form of service...military or some social service, right out of high school, or college.

I just wish there was something in place, because I take the time to be informed about the candidates and someone who might not be a citizen of this country can cancel out my vote.

If voting were held in higher regard, I think more people would use it wiser.

:0008

Well, turf, I agree with you that some sort of mandatory public service, military, social, educational, etc is something I'd like to see too, regardless of property ownership. Invest something of yourself in your country.

However I disagree about property ownership. Certainly someone can be a good, patriotic and informed voter and live in an apartment.

However, you are foolish to think that non-citizens cancel out your vote. Nobody gets registered to vote unless and until they present a birth certificate or naturalization papers. I had to and so did you and so does everyone else.

Those who claim that illegals vote are either ignorant or Fox News/Rush Limbaugh lairs.

 

[Turfgrass]

Well, turf, I agree with you that some sort of mandatory public service, military, social, educational, etc is something I'd like to see too, regardless of property ownership. Invest something of yourself in your country.

However I disagree about property ownership. Certainly someone can be a good, patriotic and informed voter and live in an apartment.

However, you are foolish to think that non-citizens cancel out your vote. Nobody gets registered to vote unless and until they present a birth certificate or naturalization papers. I had to and so did you and so does everyone else.

Those who claim that illegals vote are either ignorant or Fox News/Rush Limbaugh lairs.

I never knew you had to present a birth certificate or a passport when registering to vote. I thought all you needed was a drivers license, and the ability to lie about your citizenship. And with states giving drivers license to illegals, it seems to make the probability of fraud increase.

But with that being said, I hope you're right...I haven't investigated the process, but I guess I should edify myself so that I can't be duped into thinking incorrectly.

Thanks for the info.:toast:

 

[SEND IT]

Well, turf, I agree with you that some sort of mandatory public service, military, social, educational, etc is something I'd like to see too, regardless of property ownership. Invest something of yourself in your country.

However I disagree about property ownership. Certainly someone can be a good, patriotic and informed voter and live in an apartment.

However, you are foolish to think that non-citizens cancel out your vote. Nobody gets registered to vote unless and until they present a birth certificate or naturalization papers. I had to and so did you and so does everyone else.

Those who claim that illegals vote are either ignorant or Fox News/Rush Limbaugh lairs.

There is no voting fraud by illegals :142smilie
You are in the lead for the Darwin award. Coming down the stretch with FatDummycool, AssBlaster , King of Bullshit and Shitforbrains555.
Hell you just might win the Triple Crown of Stupidity!

 

[Duff Miver]

I never knew you had to present a birth certificate or a passport when registering to vote. I thought all you needed was a drivers license, and the ability to lie about your citizenship. And with states giving drivers license to illegals, it seems to make the probability of fraud increase.

But with that being said, I hope you're right...I haven't investigated the process, but I guess I should edify myself so that I can't be duped into thinking incorrectly.

Thanks for the info.:toast:

In EVERY state you must have a Social Security Card to register.

And here are the requirements to obtain a SS card, directly from the Social Security website:

Original Card for a U.S. Born Adult
Important

You must present original documents or copies certified by the agency that issued them. We cannot accept photocopies or notarized copies. All documents must be current (not expired). We cannot accept a receipt showing you applied for the document.
What original documents do I need?

Citizenship

We can accept only certain documents as proof of U.S. citizenship. These include a U.S. birth certificate or a U.S. passport.



Birth Certificate or passport. Period. End of discussion.

Morons like SEND IT cannot tell a lie from the truth. They should be banned from voting on the grounds of gross stupidity.