Probable War Cost...90 Billion large..

[Chadman]

Agree to disagree on this, as we both know. You make assumptions that it was necessary, I say it wasn't. I'd say my thinking has been proven to be more true since the decision was made to go in, echoed by many former Bush supporters. I haven't heard many people changing their mind the other direction lately, have you?

So, directly to your comments, I would have been happy Bush took same approach Clinton did in regards to Iraq. I don't think we should have gone in there, and I have been consistent on this from day one of posting here.

Billions on the war on terror is defendable and probably justifiable in many situations. Like Afganistan, for instance, against the real terrorists that committed the crimes against us. Billions for the war in Iraq is not justified in my opinion, because it didn't have anything to do with the war on terror. I don't doubt there were terrorists in that country, I'm sure there are terrorists in every country. But that is not the point. Billions for a claimed war on terror in Iraq is just not a true statement.

It was elective, and not justified. The reasons we were given to buy into were untrue. We have lost money, lives, and have weakened our overall preparedness against fighting terror in appropriate places - places known to have terrorists that are motivated and able to strike us. We have lost political capital in the world. We are looked at in contempt in far more places than we are looked at as being strong and putting freedom on some kind of march.

We've lost a lot because of this, and have jack to show for it. My opinion, of course. I guess I could ask what have we gained from this? Might be a better question to ask.

 

[smurphy]

The comparison is on rant like- billions for war against terror is exorbant--my question exbobant in comparison to what?--

No, I won't let you get away with that one. The invasion of Iraq was not part of a "War on Terror". That's a bullshlt line, and you know it. It was something else - whatever it was it has made the actual 'war' at least 10 times as difficult.

 

[smurphy]

--the effectiveness of doing nothing has been determined to the nth degree.

OK, what have we done in Iraq to make us any more safe? You speak to me as if the only choices are to do "nothing" or invade a country that has had little-nothing to do with any terrorism we've ever been hit from. Obviously, the right thing to do is target the people who have proven to be our enemy.

Bush did that slowly, reluctantly, and ultimately very half-assed in the place that made sense - Afghanistan.

He sold the country on Iraq. It was a salespitch full of errors and possibly outright lies. Why? Why was he barely targeting Afghanistan, Taliban, Al-Qaida, Bin Laden yet so determined to go after a country that had nothing to do with 9/11 and posed almost no threat at all to us? Was Bush actually more scared of Iraq than the people who already proved they could attack us? It makes NO SENSE.

 

[Eddie Haskell]

My son:

As I've said before, Iraq was a concrete target that the big dummy thought he could defeat. He couldn't do the same with a slippery target like Alquida and Bid Laden. So he used emotion and patriotism to distract the country.

Learn grasshopper.

Dad

 

[smurphy]

Thanks for the encouragement, dad.

Sincerely,
Saul

 

[djv]

I think you know how wrong it was when. Your left with about two that don't. Cheney and Bush.

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

I said Iraq was debatable and yet to be determined-time will tell

Your assumption of how Iraq posed no threat--how fcking many times does quotes from 90% of both party leaders have to be put up here--who all said different--apparently you had access to info they weren't privvy to.

So far the only diff between dictators in NK-Iran-Syria and Saddam is he is only one to actually use wmd's on people.

 

[djv]

Yes he did kill many. Way before we even got to 2000. In fact much of it when Dad 41 was in office. Even Reagan when we were helping him. But with some of the killing we had smiles on our faces. We blessed them. And now Iran and Syria's pain in the butt is gone. And they have more control of happenings in Iraq then we do. Like I said, I believe a huge mistake and we shall pay and pay for it. You would think we would have at least finished in Afghanistan first.