Put together the perfect Presidential Candidate

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Kind of like putting together Mr Potato(e) :142smilie Head.

Who, and Why?

Ron Paul Charisma, Intergrity, Knowledge of the Banking system and the Federal Reserve, Foreign Policy, Huge Draw, Strong Ethical Convictions

Rand Paul Younger Version of his father

Dennis Kucinich Dem Version of Ron Paul

Ronald Reagan Strong Military, Mentor of Paul

JFK DO I really need to explain? Cash, lot's of cash

George W Bush CASH ONLY !

Anyone of the Founding Fathers, ALL .... :toast:


#16 Of COURSE ! Teddy
 

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Any names you would put in there Dogs?

Thats the hard part --as once they get experience they usually lose some character :)

Names--hmm thats tough. I rule out all pure politicians from both parties (those that were never successful outside politics)

but if you pin me down I would not be too disappopinted to Romney and Lieberman combo---
 

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Romney/Lieberman combo. Interesting mix, Wayne. We've spent the week arguing in the other thread, just thought I'd give you props for looking outside the normal box there.

I guess in many ways I consider the President to be a figurehead of sorts, and admire those that are galvanizing, motivating, and strong. I don't think that you can look at a person's political party affiliation as being a determining factor, but I think the President of our country has to be a striking figure of sorts.

I guess (off the top of my head) I would look for some of the following characteristics/Presidents in the Mr. Potato Head President:

John F. Kennedy: A person admired by many, excellent orator and able to express deep thoughts in his leadership, from a strong family in our country that lends itself to leadership. Strong in his convictions.

Ronald Reagan: Strong in his message and convictions, unbending in his role as leader of the country, aggressively pushed for a new way of doing the business of the country, and the combo worked very well after years of not being positive. Strong leader abroad at a time when we needed it.

Bill Clinton: wonderful personality, able to engage all people and get them on our side worldwide, thoughtful and realistic in most policies to the point of being against his own party.

George W. Bush (will be brief here): Strong in his convictions (to a fault), a good delegator of responsibility, allowing people he put in positions of power to do their job.

W's Daddy: Impressed me greatly with his handling of the first Iraq war, galvanized worldwide support in dealing with the toughest situation he had to deal with, unlike many others in his party. Seems to be a thoughtful man, and although didn't accomplish much, I think was a decent man at the helm.

Jimmy Carter: A true statesman, compassionate, extremely intelligent, incredibly hard worker, and eternally optimistic.

Richard Nixon: Accomplished wonderful things, a great statesman, especially in countries we had never worked with, pragmatic, a man who had the best interest of the country at heart, other than his own insecurities, which hurt him.

Barack Obama: Motivational, a genuine person in many ways, a fighter against so many detrimental groups against him (his color), a motivator due to his race, and a uniter abroad due to his race. Wonderful orator, and able to express himself and his sense of humor publicly unlike most Presidents.

I can take issue and be negative against all of these Presidents. Just thought I'd weigh in with what I consider (off the top of my head) the positives in all the Presidents I'm remotely familiar with. I am not a fan of LBJ, nor Gerald Ford, but I know they have plenty of strong points, too.

Hows that for all positivity in a Potato Head?
 

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Romney/Lieberman combo. Interesting mix, Wayne. We've spent the week arguing in the other thread, just thought I'd give you props for looking outside the normal box there.

I guess in many ways I consider the President to be a figurehead of sorts, and admire those that are galvanizing, motivating, and strong. I don't think that you can look at a person's political party affiliation as being a determining factor, but I think the President of our country has to be a striking figure of sorts.

I guess (off the top of my head) I would look for some of the following characteristics/Presidents in the Mr. Potato Head President:

John F. Kennedy: A person admired by many, excellent orator and able to express deep thoughts in his leadership, from a strong family in our country that lends itself to leadership. Strong in his convictions.

Ronald Reagan: Strong in his message and convictions, unbending in his role as leader of the country, aggressively pushed for a new way of doing the business of the country, and the combo worked very well after years of not being positive. Strong leader abroad at a time when we needed it.

Bill Clinton: wonderful personality, able to engage all people and get them on our side worldwide, thoughtful and realistic in most policies to the point of being against his own party.

George W. Bush (will be brief here): Strong in his convictions (to a fault), a good delegator of responsibility, allowing people he put in positions of power to do their job.

W's Daddy: Impressed me greatly with his handling of the first Iraq war, galvanized worldwide support in dealing with the toughest situation he had to deal with, unlike many others in his party. Seems to be a thoughtful man, and although didn't accomplish much, I think was a decent man at the helm.

Jimmy Carter: A true statesman, compassionate, extremely intelligent, incredibly hard worker, and eternally optimistic.

Richard Nixon: Accomplished wonderful things, a great statesman, especially in countries we had never worked with, pragmatic, a man who had the best interest of the country at heart, other than his own insecurities, which hurt him.

Barack Obama: Motivational, a genuine person in many ways, a fighter against so many detrimental groups against him (his color), a motivator due to his race, and a uniter abroad due to his race. Wonderful orator, and able to express himself and his sense of humor publicly unlike most Presidents.

I can take issue and be negative against all of these Presidents. Just thought I'd weigh in with what I consider (off the top of my head) the positives in all the Presidents I'm remotely familiar with. I am not a fan of LBJ, nor Gerald Ford, but I know they have plenty of strong points, too.

Hows that for all positivity in a Potato Head?

:0074 I might not agree with all your views but have to give you A+ on effort and presentation.

on the latter 2--I liked LBJ for his conviction --he was so emotionally distraught over war it effected him physically--agree on Ford--he did nothing and accomplished nothing--was a fence rider trying to get by.
 

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Thats the hard part --as once they get experience they usually lose some character :)

Names--hmm thats tough. I rule out all pure politicians from both parties (those that were never successful outside politics)

but if you pin me down I would not be too disappopinted to Romney and Lieberman combo---
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nice picks

I am surprised you didnt say Christine ODonnel and Sarah Palin

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Paul/Nader
Dream Team. :toast:

However, Nader would be wasted as VP. As John Adams opined about the office...

"My country has contrived for me the most insignificant office that ever the invention of man contrived or his imagination conceived."
-- John Adams

Nader could serve double-duty as Secretary of State and Secretary of the Treasury. Then we'd see some REAL change in this country my friends.
 

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Dream Team. :toast:

However, Nader would be wasted as VP. As John Adams opined about the office...

"My country has contrived for me the most insignificant office that ever the invention of man contrived or his imagination conceived."
-- John Adams

Nader could serve double-duty as Secretary of State and Secretary of the Treasury. Then we'd see some REAL change in this country my friends.

I was gonna put Chomsky as my Secretary of Defense. :SIB
 

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I'm not sure I'd like to see Nader as secretary of defense. That weird eye thing might offend some other countries. I like a lot of what Nader stands for, but he also has some strange ideas IMO. And, I have seen some thing about his organization, funding, and I've never really liked him as a public persona - which I think is important for a world traveler representing our country.

But, it's getting to the point we need other parties to get in the mix, somehow. The balance of the two party system has created a monster that we can no longer control. Hopefully we can continue to get some solid non-two-party candidates moving forward. Maybe taking the lid of corporate monies could propel someone into a viable spot some day, like the Perot movement (not that I liked him, BTW).
 

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nice picks

I am surprised you didnt say Christine ODonnel and Sarah Palin

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Kod,

Come on Dude, I asked if we could all be constructive in the thread with out a swift kick to the nuts.

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Kod,

Come on Dude, I asked if we could all be constructive in the thread with out a swift kick to the nuts.

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I was being constructive

as much as possible

have you seen Palin new Alaska show ?

she looks to be Presidential material
 

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I was being constructive

as much as possible

have you seen Palin new Alaska show ?

she looks to be Presidential material

Why would I put myself thru watching and listening to her?

I already have hearing problems, I don't need to listen to the screech owl.

When I watch or listen to the news my dog starts to bark and run in circles, now I'm starting to follow her :142smilie


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I like a lot of what Nader stands for, but he also has some strange ideas IMO. I've never really liked him as a public persona - which I think is important for a world traveler representing our country.
Chad, could you give me something specific about Nader's views that you find strange? While I do think Obama has greatly improved overall world perception of the U.S., in my opinion, Obama the President hasn't lived up to Obama the candidate (so far).

The clip below gives a small glimpse of why I voted for Nader in the 3 previous elections. Be sure to listen to his comments on Iran (from about 2:30 on in the clip).

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Trench, While I agree with Nader's views on many things, I know that much of what he portrays in his positions, and how he has been able to go from a high priced attorney to a leading political figure is excessively arguable. In some ways, I find Nader more reprehensible than many of the mainstream left or right politicians. He claims to be in the middle, a steward of the people's interests, and he has built an empire on that thought. Truth is, he has taken advantage of the position he has built, and has profited greatly from it. Many of his activities border on illegal, and he benefits from his hit and run public face.

Here is a histrionic website detailing much of what Nader is about. Much of it is probably not true, but much of it certainly is. I just don't think Ralph Nader is who he asks us to believe he is - and in some ways he is more reprehensible than the people he routinely attacks.

The link:
http://www.realchange.org/nader.htm
 

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Rush Limbaugh
Michael Savage
Michelle Bachman
Ronald Reagan
George W Bush
General Patton
George Washington
Aaron Burr


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Before you make too many judgements on that link, I've read a lot about the man other than this, and much of it bothers me a lot. Considering the angle he tries to come from.
 
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