Putin accuses BUSH AND MCCAIN - starting Georgia war

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Putin accuses U.S. of orchestrating Georgian warStory Highlights
Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin accuses U.S. of plotting conflict

Putin says U.S. did it to help one of the presidential election candidates



SOCHI, Russia (CNN) -- Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin has accused the United States of orchestrating the conflict in Georgia to benefit one of its presidential election candidates.

Russian PM Vladimir Putin has accused the U.S. of orchestrating the conflict in Georgia.

1 of 2 In an exclusive interview with CNN's Matthew Chance in the Black Sea city of Sochi Thursday, Putin said the U.S. had encouraged Georgia to attack the autonomous region of South Ossetia.

Putin told CNN his defense officials had told him it was done to benefit a presidential candidate -- Republican John McCain and Democrat Barack Obama are competing to succeed George W. Bush -- although he presented no evidence to back it up.

"U.S. citizens were indeed in the area in conflict," Putin said. "They were acting in implementing those orders doing as they were ordered, and the only one who can give such orders is their leader." Watch Putin accuse the United States ?

White House spokeswoman Dana Perino blasted Putin's statements, saying they were "patently false."

"To suggest that the United States orchestrated this on behalf of a political candidate just sounds not rational," she said.

U.S. State Department deputy spokesman Robert Wood concurred, and labeled Putin's statements as "ludicrous."

"Russia is responsible for the crisis," Wood said in an off-camera meeting with reporters in Washington on Thursday. "For the Russians to say they are not responsible for what happened in Georgia is ludicrous. ... Russia is to blame for this crisis and the world is responding to what Russia has done."

When told that many diplomats in the United States and Europe blame Russia for provoking the conflict and for invading Georgia, Putin said Russia had no choice but to invade Georgia after dozens of its peacekeepers in South Ossetia were killed. He told Chance it was to avert a human calamity. iReport.com: First-person accounts from the center of the conflict

The former Russian president, still considered the most powerful man in the country, said he was disappointed the U.S. had not done more to stop Georgia's attack.

Putin recalled he was watching the situation in Georgia and South Ossetia unfold when he was at the opening ceremony of the Beijing Olympic Games on August 8.

He said he spoke to U.S. President George W. Bush, also attending, who told the Russian prime minister he didn't want war -- but Putin spoke to CNN of his disappointment that the U.S. administration didn't do more to stop Georgia early in the conflict.

Also Thursday Putin announced economic measures which he said were unrelated to the fighting with Georgia. Nineteen U.S. poultry meat companies would be banned from exporting their products to Russia because they had failed health and safety tests, and 29 other companies had been warned to improve their standards or face the same ban, Putin said.

Putin said Russia's health and agricultural ministries had randomly tested the poultry products and found them to be full of antibiotics and arsenic.

While Putin repeated that the bans were not related to the Georgian conflict, they indicate the measures some Western countries -- particularly in Europe -- fear if Russia goes on a diplomatic offensive. Watch analysis of Russia's relationship with the West. ?

But Russia's hopes of winning international support for its actions in Georgia were dashed Thursday, when China and other Asian nations expressed concern about tension in the region.

The joint declaration from the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO), which includes China, Russia, Tajikistan, Kyrgystan, Kazakhstan, and Uzbekistan, said the countries hoped any further conflict could be resolved peacefully. Watch more on rising tensions between Russia and the West. ?

"The presidents reaffirmed their commitment to the principles of respect for historic and cultural traditions of every country and efforts aimed at preserving the unity of a state and its territorial integrity," the declaration said, The Associated Press reported.

"Placing the emphasis exclusively on the use of force has no prospects and hinders a comprehensive settlement of local conflicts," AP reported the group as saying.

Russian President Dmitry Medvedev had appealed to the SCO at a summit in Tajikistan Thursday to support its actions, saying it would serve as a "serious signal for those who are trying to justify the aggression."

On Wednesday a U.S. ship carrying aid docked in Georgia, while Britain's Foreign Secretary David Miliband traveled to the Ukraine, which is worried about Russia's intentions in the region, to offer the UK's support.

Miliband equated Moscow's offensive in Georgia with the Soviet tanks that invaded Czechoslovakia to crush the Prague Spring democratic reforms in 1968, and demanded Russia "change course," AP reported.
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Does this show that Bush and McCain would stoop to any level ?

Or is Putin more full of chit that a Christmas turkey?

I hope Pt1gourd dont read this. It would piss him off.
 

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I have more to say , but leave it like this for now.

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On Thu, 3 Jul 2008 12:23:23 -0400, Walesper...@xxxxxxxxx (Cliff
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McCain is now saying HE was prompted about the Columbia rescue mission.
What BS.

Prove him wrong.
Or lick his asscrack for an apology.

Old man McCain allowed himself to be used in a charade.

That "charade" is otherwise called a Plan, and it got the hostages
freed.
McCain was part of the Op.
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You are a simpleton. McCain was invited to be there when they ran the
operation. McCain's presence was merely a political gambit. Don't be
naive.

You woudn't know an Intel Op if one was launched in your ass.

The coincidence is beyond belief.


The coincidence is beyond belief because its NOT a coincidence......

Duh...


An admission that is was a staged event

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Maybe the first one didnt work out right so they had to try a second one. :shrug:

Why would Putin even say something like this ?

I wouldnt put it past George W and Dicky.

I liked the part where the guy says. you wouldnt know a Intel Op if it was launced up your ass:142smilie
 
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Did I mention Cindy was in Georgia negotiating with Russia to stop the war !
It sure is hot in here.


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Things that look like they just can't be true. Our history shows us Some times become just that. If any of it is true we will find out 8 to 10 years out.
I can say the longer one lives the easier it becomes to say Maybe.
 

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putin invades georgia(after having brigades at the ready on the border).....blames it on georgia and the u.s.....

and the left buys it(see,he knows how easy it is to play the self-hating american left)....
 

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I thought that it was nice timing that the attack happened the day that Obama goes on vacation and then McCain came out with an immediate call out to Russia.

But once I realized McCain's speech ripped off Wikipedia, I realized that it couldn't be planned.

. . . . or maybe that's what they want me to think?
 

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putin invades georgia(after having brigades at the ready on the border).....blames it on georgia and the u.s.....

and the left buys it(see,he knows how easy it is to play the self-hating american left)....

If you're a pedafile and the police setup a sting and you're busted, you would blame the police because you were too stupid not to know better. If the trap was there why spring it.

You know why, because Georgia thought the US would come riding in on white horses to save them. Welcome to the party Georgia.

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Mr. Open Mind - Any reason, you believe this guy over others. Did you find an author that supported your beliefs and decided that he must be right?

any reason why you would believe putin(who just happened to be the invader)?....a kgb thug and a guy who is rolling back democracy in russia to become ruler for life over your own government?....

oh...that`s right...bush...


and this is the cognitive disonance on the left that just makes me shake my head...
 

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let me get this straight....you really think that bush,in cahoots with mccain(who aren`t even that friendly,btw)engineered a russian invasion of georgia to further mccain`s election prospects?.....


read it aloud to yourself bobby....

wtf is going on in here lately?...
 

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I wouldn't believe Putin on this. It's funny how the last 8 years each political side has conveniently chosen to believe or discredit Russia when it serves their purpose.

Georgia probably just made a bad tactical error and got spanked. Everything else is just speculation.
 

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I wouldn't believe Putin on this. It's funny how the last 8 years each political side has conveniently chosen to believe or discredit Russia when it serves their purpose.

Georgia probably just made a bad tactical error and got spanked. Everything else is just speculation.

whew:00x25 ......i guess it was happenstance that putin had several thousand troops and tons of armor over the mountains and on the border at the exact moment to counteract "the "georgian aggression"....

enough to just roll through the country and basically level everything in it`s path without resistance...

the georgian military,btw,who has it`s 2,000 elite troops in iraq....

forget it....i understand that until a democrat wins that this ridiculous illogic will continue....

now i really do understand your silence on stw...


why bother....
 
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