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OK, since I am obviously delusional and so is fletcher, because he thinks Auburn should go ahead of Notre Dame also. Please list FACTS on how Notre Dame should get the BCS bid over Ohio St. or Auburn.

Please convince me with facts only.

Not trying to be rude or confrontational, but give me facts on why ND gets the bid other than the fact that they are America's team.

By the way, strength-of-schedule is not a fact, it is subjective based on different criteria by whoever is doing the ranking.

gjn23, I am definitely not a liberal (Alabama is a red state), and contrary to your post, I actually love facts. I just haven't heard any facts on why Notre Dame is better than Auburn. Give them to me.
 
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facts:

sos...look at your occ schedule, a joke again
you didnt even win your division in your conf
at the beg of the year, nd's schedule was top 5 in the nation
nd's consistancy....their offense has been excellent all year long
ranking
bcs ranking
attendance/draw
tv revenue/ad revenue

but it all boils down to the follwing....it's notre dame vs auburn....exit alabama and who the hell do you think the rest of the country would rather watch

again...you've had a nice season but nd, osu, oregon all are ahead of you in the pecking order of "deserving of a bcs bid"
 

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I would have to go Ohio St. Auburn has gotten better and better every game to my dismay. ND is playing great ball also. Its a great debate. I do not want to see AU or any other team get the short end of the stick though because of potential TV revenue. We will be debating this shit again next year, with different teams.
 

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AU2001 said:
OK, since I am obviously delusional and so is fletcher, because he thinks Auburn should go ahead of Notre Dame also. Please list FACTS on how Notre Dame should get the BCS bid over Ohio St. or Auburn.

Please convince me with facts only.

:142smilie :142smilie :142smilie

What argument did you post supporting Auburn? I must have missed it. :rolleyes:




Lost Hillbilly

I used Sagarin SOS.
 

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Scott4USC said:
:142smilie :142smilie :142smilie

What argument did you post supporting Auburn? I must have missed it. :rolleyes:

How's this Scooter:

Fact:
Notre Dame has only won 3 games against teams with a winning record, and only one of those was on the road.
:scared :scared :scared

Auburn has beaten two top 15 teams, ND has not.

Fact:
Auburn has prettier cheerleaders.

Facts:
I am 27. I live WITHOUT MY PARENTS in a 2-story lakefront home. My fiancee and I are about to build a new home at a newly built RTJ golf course here in B'ham (Ross Bridge). I work for a very successful marketing firm, and I drive a brand new SUV.

And I get called a Lost Hillbilly by a guy who lives at home with his mommy. :s4:
 
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How's this Scooter:

Fact:
Notre Dame has only won 3 games against teams with a winning record, and only one of those was on the road.
:scared :scared :scared

I suggest you look at the SOS of most of the teams ND played. I bet the combined SOS of ND opponents ranks out higher than the combined SOS of AU opponents. If that is true, that pretty much counters your argument supporting AU. A good example are SEC teams who have their record inflated because of a weak OOC schedule.

AU2001 said:
And I get called a Lost Hillbilly by a guy who lives at home with his mommy. :s4:

I never called you any names. Lost Hillbilly is a poster at this site who asked me a question. Didn't you notice the large space between my reply to you and my reply to Lost Hillbilly? You forgot, I also live at home with Daddy! :) But why do you give a $hit about my personal life? This isn't a dating board. :topic: Stay on topic!
 
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AU2001 said:
How's this Scooter:

Fact:
Notre Dame has only won 3 games against teams with a winning record, and only one of those was on the road.
:scared :scared :scared

Auburn has beaten two top 15 teams, ND has not.

Fact:
Auburn has prettier cheerleaders.

Facts:
I am 27. I live WITHOUT MY PARENTS in a 2-story lakefront home. My fiancee and I are about to build a new home at a newly built RTJ golf course here in B'ham (Ross Bridge). I work for a very successful marketing firm, and I drive a brand new SUV.

And I get called a Lost Hillbilly by a guy who lives at home with his mommy. :s4:

Guess what? I'm 25 and have a townhouse with my girlfriend in Hoboken. I am an ND alum and go seton hall law school right now. Not sure what this has to do with football, but dont think your sh$t doesnt stink because you live on a pretty dairy farm down south with your girlfriend Betsy :mj07:

Anyway, college football is about TIMING, always has been. Both ND and Auburn have 2 losses, but Auburn's second loss came AFTER ND's second loss
ADVANTAGE: ND

SOS, you keep raving about Auburn beating two top 15 teams. At the end of the day, after Georgia loses the SEC title game, and Alabama's downward spiral is complete, neither of those teams will be in the top 15. My point? You cant base SOS on where team's were ranked "when you beat them". Based on that argument, ND scheduled THREE BCS teams from last season. Hmmm Auburn only played one. Besides that, Purdue, MSU, Syracuse, and Tennessee all looked solid coming into the year. Not ND's fault those teams have suffered, AND WE HAVE LOW COMPUTER AVERAGES IN THE BCS WHICH ACCOUNT FOR THE WEAKNESS OF THOSE TEAMS COMPARED TO PRESEASON RANKING. My point? Mentioning your team's quality wins is a moot point, because there are PLENTY of allowances in the BCS and the POLLS to account for that. Dont double count. NO ADVANTAGE to anyone here.

If you want to talk SOS though, how about ball st. W. Kentucky, Mississippi State, Tulane, Temple?? Seriously, shut up man. Like ND, Auburn GOT its shot against a top 5 team in LSU, despite USC being hands down better than LSU, and they LOST. Already played a BCS calibur team and lost. Ohio state plaed Texas well and lost. ND played USC well and lost. All 3 teams had their shot at the top dogs and lost. If either team had won their respective shots, they would have a LEGITIMATE gripe about being left out of the BCS...But close doesnt count, and wins against OVERRATED teams like Alabama dont either

ND is not getting in because of $ and fan base. They are legitimately ranked higher, deservingly so. Throw in their fan base and entertainment value, and you have an ALL AROUND WINNER, as opposed to auburn who wouldnt even be in this discussion if not for a fluke play on 4th down against Georgia. ONE play doesnt make you a BCS squad pal.
 
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Not sure what this has to do with football, but dont think your sh$t doesnt stink because you live on a pretty dairy farm down south with your girlfriend Betsy

That was pretty good.
 

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well im 35, have a house near the beach, a hot girlfriend AND a dog..........so there.....

Notre Dame is better than Auburn!

:)
 

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Nd not much better than stanford!! Vandy is better than stanford So how do you figure ND better than AUBURN?? I understand now Why sports books are so profitable. Its amazing to me the thoughts of some people!! Hope Auburn plays ND will make a mint!!
 

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Nd not much better than stanford!! Vandy is better than stanford So how do you figure ND better than AUBURN?? I understand now Why sports books are so profitable. Its amazing to me the thoughts of some people!! Hope Auburn plays ND will make a mint!!


That is "circular" logic my friend, and about as worthless as a canadian nickel. Team A is better than Team B, Team B ALMOST beat Team C. Therefore Team A is better than Team C. That seems to sum up your logic. Lemme give you an illustration to prove why you are wrong.

Last season, USC only beat Cal by 6. Texas Tech handed Cal their a$$ in the Holiday bowl. Does that mean Texas Tech was better than USC last season? According to your little deduction, the answer is yes. :mj10:

Anyone with an IQ over 50 knows that is not the case. I rest my case.
 

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gjn23 said:
well im 35, have a house near the beach, a hot girlfriend AND a dog..........so there.....

Notre Dame is better than Auburn!

:)


still working on the dog part... :mj07:
 

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No sh--t All this ND is better than Auburn Bull---- is what I am getting at dumb --- How do you figure that?? You say timing is big well not to many teams playing better than Auburn now or the last 2 years won 22 of 24 So get on those numbers and my n--s I am not even an AU fan!!!
 

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No sh--t All this ND is better than Auburn Bull---- is what I am getting at dumb --- How do you figure that?? You say timing is big well not to many teams playing better than Auburn now or the last 2 years won 22 of 24 So get on those numbers and my n--s I am not even an AU fan!!!

timing doesn include the last 2 years..Auburn's record from last year is irrelevant. You just said you would bet Auburn over ND because of the stanford game, and something about Vandy as a point of reference for judging both teams. And I'm the dumb one?? After reading your last post, its clear that not EVEN YOU know what you are trying to say. Thats what I get for debating with a mental midget.

I put some bottles in my trashcan by accident. I left a note on the can so you will see it when you come by on the truck to pick it up tomorrow. :mj07:
 

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DerekNJND said:
timing doesn include the last 2 years..Auburn's record from last year is irrelevant. You just said you would bet Auburn over ND because of the stanford game, and something about Vandy as a point of reference for judging both teams. And I'm the dumb one?? After reading your last post, its clear that not EVEN YOU know what you are trying to say. Thats what I get for debating with a mental midget.

I put some bottles in my trashcan by accident. I left a note on the can so you will see it when you come by on the truck to pick it up tomorrow. :mj07:

Watch out Derek... He might try and egg your house tonight. However, I don't think his 1981 rusted, Ford F10 can make it to New Jersey.
 

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I have now come to the conclusion that all SEC fans are retarded. Auburn is NOT even being mentioned for a BCS bowl. Oregon, Ohio St., and ND are in the running. No one outside of the Gulf wants to see Auburn! Better luck next year...
 

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let's see....ND has beaten one ranked team and three teams with winning records (Michigan, Navy and BYU...real powerhouses). They have also lost at home to a 5-6 team.

on the subject of Auburn's cupcake record next year.......

Sept 2 - Washington State (Home)
Sept 9 - Miss State (Away)
Sept 16 - Temple (Home)
Sept 23 - Tulane (Home)
Sept 30 - South Carolina (Away)
Oct 7 - Arkansas (Home)
Oct 14 - Florida (Home)
Oct 21 - LSU (Home)
Oct 28 - Ole Miss (Away)
Nov 4 - OPEN
Nov 11 - Georgia (Home)
Nov 18 - Alabama (Away)

I'll trade with ND or Southern Cal in a heartbeat.


osc
Old School Capper,

Can we please trade... That schedule is a joke.

2006 Notre Dame Football Schedule

Sept. 2 at Georgia Tech
Sept. 9 PENN STATE
Sept. 16 MICHIGAN
Sept. 23 at Michigan State
Sept. 30 PURDUE
Oct. 7 STANFORD
Oct. 21 UCLA
Oct. 28 at Navy (Baltimore, Md.)
Nov. 4 NORTH CAROLINA
Nov. 11 at Air Force
Nov. 18 ARMY
Nov. 25 at USC
 
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