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Spytheweb

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In 2000 Al Gore garnered 90% of the Black vote, what's the point? He's not black.
 

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When my thoughts are in line with a lawyer on this site who also can spot a con job a million miles away and your thoughts are in line with Six Five who could possible be the most gullible poster in the history of sports post site, do i need to say more?;)

You are the epitome of gullible, but you're too stupid to realize it.
 

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Good job putting up the #'s Smurph--and yes election is getting more racial slant as it goes on.
Would appear to me the racial slant is much more predominate in black areana.

Is absolutely no way they could give nomination to Hiliary with #'s in O favor despite what comes down in next few months--the protesting and burning would make France's fiasco last year look like a boy scout camp fire.
 

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It's easy to see in states like Penn the cross over votes from Reb's to Hillary. For sure white males and white seniors. The push is on to stop Obama because the Reb's do fear he will beat old john. And nat polls continue to show that. As they should old john is just 4 more years of what we had. And that Americans do not want. But reb's are to late Obama will get nod. And then all the black haters will have a reason to go vote.
 

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Actually, I think you are comparing apples to oranges.

This is my point. When a person votes for a candidate based on the color of his/her skin it stands to reason that there is little difference when a person votes against a candidate based on the color of his/her skin. In both cases, selecting a candidate based on skin color alone, is simply wrong in my humble opinion. It's hard for me to comprehend that liberals, most in the media and yourself TP fail to see this. My only guess is that an overdose of political correctness has closed your eyes and minds to this concept.:shrug:
 

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course, Hillary was not part of that victory since she and the DLC thought it was stupid strategy. Thats been her biggest problem this campaign, the fact that a lot in her own party do not like her or trust her motvies, not the fact that Barry-O is black.

. We would be better off if everyone told the R's and the D's to shove it, we're taking over now! In fact, lets storm the friggin' castle gates right effing now!

So, who is with me!!!! :00hour
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This is my point. When a person votes for a candidate based on the color of his/her skin it stands to reason that there is little difference when a person votes against a candidate based on the color of his/her skin. In both cases, selecting a candidate based on skin color alone, is simply wrong in my humble opinion. It's hard for me to comprehend that liberals, most in the media and yourself TP fail to see this. My only guess is that an overdose of political correctness has closed your eyes and minds to this concept.:shrug:

D2,

There's plenty of day baseball to follow, why are we wasting our time with this?!?!

Kidding. Ok, let me clarify my points a bit as I dont think we're that far off on some levels. I can be disorganized as I start to ramble and rant in these threads, but here goes.

I agree with you. It is a problem that people use just skin color or any other single, illegitimate-esque reasoning behind their vote. I think it is the same as D's and R's who never, ever look at the other party as a possibility or will automatically vote for a chitty candidate only because of party affiliation. I think that is just as dumb as voting for someone based on skin color. Party politics is killing us, but thats for another disucssion.

But, in your original post you said both were racsists. I dont think thats what going on with black voters for Obama. It is not an anti-white vote the way that the silly segment of our soceity (in both parties and within the independents) who wont even consider him because of his color represents a clear anti-black vote. Thats where I feel you are comparing apples to oranges.

Blacks have been voting for a long time. They have shown their ability and willingness to vote for white, mostly male candidates. I think it is a little disingenious to label them as rascist now even if they flock en masse to Barry-O.Here is a thought: Maybe Hillary is the worse of two candidates? I think I may be on to something there.

However, you can label those people who would never under any circumstance vote for a black or any other minority candidate as a rascist.

But, as I said in my post, it would be very revealing to see a breakdown of the new voters Barry-O is bringing to the dance. The blacks who have never voted before are surely voting for him because of his skin color. That is a problem. But, is it any different than first time evangelical voters going hard for Bush (talk about a turn of phrase there!) in 2000/2004?

While I disagree with their platform as I dont think gay marriage and abortion are the pressing issues really facing us, I still think it was kinda cool that new voters got brought to the table. It helps gives them ownership in the country. The new black voters that Barry-O may be bringing in I have the same feelings for. it is too bad that they are initially short sighted, but its great to get them more involved in the process. Put them in play, bring them out and lets get them involved in the political process.

Uh oh, I can tell I am rambling. Hope I am making sense. And, trust me, I am not brainwashed. Sometimes I am stoned however! :weed:

War Eagle!
 

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Wait, that black helicopter hovering all day has been following me the whole time! Crap! Just when I thought it was safe again.......looks like I will bringing the seven iron with me into the woods on my run after work.

Should I be worried about the dudes in suits and shades parked in a sedan down the street from my place? :shrug:

When will I learn to stop stressing Hill's unpopularity?
 

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Too bad Bill is not still in office. He could find some convicted black felons to convict and try to win the black vote for Hilary, like he did with the Puerto Rican FALN terrorists just before he flew the coop. At least Hilary won't have to duck sniper fire when she visits Puerto Rico after she gets elected.
 

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Too bad Bill is not still in office. He could find some convicted black felons to convict and try to win the black vote for Hilary,.

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I think you mean pardon.

Remember that bastid pardoning in his last days. It was a big thing then. Nothing much said now. And then they stole all the furniture and vandalized the white house. How quickly we forget.
 

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Thanks Scot for the correction to my typo - I did mean to refer to Clinton's" pardon" of the FALN terrorists, and his use of executive clemency to
put an end to any investigation

Hopefully it will be referred to big-time during the Pres campaigning - Hilary likes to take credit for what she perceives as Bill's accomplishments in office - I don't see how she can maintain credibility
to fight terrorism
 

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Thanks Scot for the correction to my typo - I did mean to refer to Clinton's" pardon" of the FALN terrorists, and his use of executive clemency to
put an end to any investigation

Hopefully it will be referred to big-time during the Pres campaigning - Hilary likes to take credit for what she perceives as Bill's accomplishments in office - I don't see how she can maintain credibility
to fight terrorism

Just curious what ever happened to these people? Have any of them done anything bad?
 

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Uh oh, I can tell I am rambling. Hope I am making sense. And, trust me, I am not brainwashed. Sometimes I am stoned however! :weed:


:142smilie I used to think of that as washing my brain!

I am just plain bored with the context of this election process.......shes a liar, he's a racist, he's old, he's an elitist, she's more experienced, he's the engineer on the straight-talk express, he hangs with radicals, yes we can, yes we will, si se puede:mj02:

Polls, polls, polls, fawking polls......:jerkit:

GW43's approval rating = 31%
John McCain's = 67%

:shrug: Put that math together for me, please.

Will the issues at hand please stand up? I'm getting dumber every day!
 

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In 2000 Al Gore garnered 90% of the Black vote, what's the point? He's not black.
I fail to see any comaprison.
Your speaking of race of Dem vs Reb--where black vote is historically around 90%.

This is Dem vs Dem --90% divide on 2 Dems with basically same stance on issue.

Maybe you can define your liberal logic to us.
The PC are already screaming about the 15% or so that said race came into play as rednecked biggots--imagine if the factual #'s were 90% :SIB
 

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Yep......minorities are going to vote Dem either way.

The problem with the whole reverse racism discussion is that it just sound silly to bring it up when whites make up 75% of the populace. Its lose-lose and I truthfully don't think we need to go there. Its as inane as disparagement of black QBs. We know there are people who just will not vote for a black or a woman.......some people just aren't ready to make the leap past the superficial packaging. That's OK.......I disagree, but thats their option. Its the candidates job to appeal to the constituency, not the other way around. Tough chit for BHO if old white people don't like or trust him........ Tough sleddin' for her if blacks or college-educated liberals don't like the way she operates (which I personally dislike b/c she has come around to trying to appeal to the lowest common denominator out of desperation).........tough snot for J-Mac if he's tied to 43 or he's white or he's 72yrs old.

As much as I'd like to try to explain to people that its ridiculous to decide who to vote for based on race, gender, age, sexual orientation, who's their favorite baseball team, boxer v. briefs, lapel pin v. no pin, Titleist or Nike, tastes great/less filling.......its just mental isometrics.
 

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I fail to see any comaprison.
Your speaking of race of Dem vs Reb--where black vote is historically around 90%.

wonder if the blacks would vote rethuglican if condo"skeezer" rice ran?....

/dontcha just love the profane sexual insult"reverend "wright uses to describe our african american secretary of state?....

he`s truly a "man of god"....a wonderful mentor and exemplar for the african american children of his flock....

spongy really likes him,too...:grins:
 
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