Willard
250 million
Actually I have a billion locked away where you people will never find it. Tax free :0074
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Willard
250 million
Actually I have a billion locked away where you people will never find it. Tax free :0074
TEL AVIV, Israel -- U.S. presidential candidate Mitt Romney plans to raise campaign money in private while in Israel, so what he tells wealthy American supporters abroad will be kept quiet from voters at home.
Romney's campaign is barring reporters from a fundraiser at Jerusalem's King David Hotel and not saying why. At U.S. events, Romney's remarks to donors in communal spaces such as hotels are typically public.
President Barack Obama allows reporters to hear his words at fundraisers, though he generally bars them from listening to question-and-answer sessions with those in attendance. The president sometimes allows coverage of his remarks at events in private homes.
Romney traveling press secretary Rick Gorka, asked to comment, simply said, "Closed press, closed press, closed press," as he walked down the aisle of the candidate's campaign plane during the flight from London to Tel Aviv.
Some of Romney's wealthiest U.S. supporters plan to attend Monday's fundraiser. They include casino mogul Sheldon Adelson, who's donated millions to a group backing Romney and is a leading backer of Republican Jewish groups in the U.S.
Donors at the event were asked to contribute $50,000 or to raise $100,000. Romney advisers say the event is expected to raise more than $1 million. The fundraiser will be relatively small, likely with about 50 attendees, giving Romney the chance to interact more personally than he does in many of the larger events.
Romney sometimes has given donors more policy specifics than he includes in his standard campaign speeches. At a fundraiser this spring in Florida, for example, he offered new details on how he might cut government and which deductions he might eliminate as part of his tax plan. The event was overheard by reporters standing on a public sidewalk.
Throughout his career and campaign, Romney has released information that the law demands, including the list of donors that the Federal Election Commission requires and financial disclosures that give a broad outline of up to $250 million in assets.
But he repeatedly has broken with the practice of presidential candidates in both parties in disclosing more. He's refused to release the names of the fundraisers who tap friends and business networks to raise hundreds of thousands of dollars for his campaign, and has said he'll release only two years' worth of tax returns.
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Secrets . Just what we need in a President.
Bring in alot of the biggest money men from American to attend also.
This is how his administration would be run.
Behind closed doors the decisions are made for the rich.
The average Americans lose.
Romney's campaign is barring reporters from a fundraiser at Jerusalem's King David Hotel and not saying why. At U.S. events, Romney's remarks to donors in communal spaces such as hotels are typically public.
President Barack Obama allows reporters to hear his words at fundraisers, though he generally bars them from listening to question-and-answer sessions with those in attendance. The president sometimes allows coverage of his remarks at events in private homes.
Romney traveling press secretary Rick Gorka, asked to comment, simply said, "Closed press, closed press, closed press," as he walked down the aisle of the candidate's campaign plane during the flight from London to Tel Aviv.
Some of Romney's wealthiest U.S. supporters plan to attend Monday's fundraiser. They include casino mogul Sheldon Adelson, who's donated millions to a group backing Romney and is a leading backer of Republican Jewish groups in the U.S.
Donors at the event were asked to contribute $50,000 or to raise $100,000. Romney advisers say the event is expected to raise more than $1 million. The fundraiser will be relatively small, likely with about 50 attendees, giving Romney the chance to interact more personally than he does in many of the larger events.
Romney sometimes has given donors more policy specifics than he includes in his standard campaign speeches. At a fundraiser this spring in Florida, for example, he offered new details on how he might cut government and which deductions he might eliminate as part of his tax plan. The event was overheard by reporters standing on a public sidewalk.
Throughout his career and campaign, Romney has released information that the law demands, including the list of donors that the Federal Election Commission requires and financial disclosures that give a broad outline of up to $250 million in assets.
But he repeatedly has broken with the practice of presidential candidates in both parties in disclosing more. He's refused to release the names of the fundraisers who tap friends and business networks to raise hundreds of thousands of dollars for his campaign, and has said he'll release only two years' worth of tax returns.
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Secrets . Just what we need in a President.
Bring in alot of the biggest money men from American to attend also.
This is how his administration would be run.
Behind closed doors the decisions are made for the rich.
The average Americans lose.
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This one is for RAYMOND
its his kind of humor
This one is for RAYMOND
its his kind of humor
JERUSALEM ? Mitt Romney told Jewish donors Monday that their culture is part of what has allowed them to be more economically successful than the Palestinians, outraging Palestinian leaders who suggested his comments were racist and out of touch with the realities of the Middle East. Romney's campaign later said his remarks were mischaracterized.
"As you come here and you see the GDP per capita, for instance, in Israel which is about $21,000, and compare that with the GDP per capita just across the areas managed by the Palestinian Authority, which is more like $10,000 per capita, you notice such a dramatically stark difference in economic vitality," the Republican presidential candidate told about 40 wealthy donors who ate breakfast at the luxurious King David Hotel.
Romney said some economic histories have theorized that "culture makes all the difference."
"And as I come here and I look out over this city and consider the accomplishments of the people of this nation, I recognize the power of at least culture and a few other things," Romney said, citing an innovative business climate, the Jewish history of thriving in difficult circumstances and the "hand of providence." He said similar disparity exists between neighboring countries, like Mexico and the United States.
Palestinian reaction was swift and pointed.
"It is a racist statement and this man doesn't realize that the Palestinian economy cannot reach its potential because there is an Israeli occupation," said Saeb Erekat, a senior aide to Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas.
"It seems to me this man lacks information, knowledge, vision and understanding of this region and its people," Erekat added. "He also lacks knowledge about the Israelis themselves. I have not heard any Israeli official speak about cultural superiority."
As criticism mounted while Romney traveled to Poland, campaign spokeswoman Andrea Saul said: "His comments were grossly mischaracterized." The campaign contends Romney's comparison of countries that are close to each other and have wide income disparities ? the U.S. and Mexico, Chile and Ecuador ? shows his comments were broader than just the comparison between Israel and Palestine.
While speaking to U.S. audiences, Romney often highlights culture as a key to economic success and emphasizes the power of the American entrepreneurial spirit compared to the values of other countries. But his decision to highlight cultural differences in a region where such differences have helped fuel violence for generations raises new questions about the former businessman's diplomacy skills.
The economic disparity between the Israelis and the Palestinians is actually much greater than Romney stated. Israel had a per capita gross domestic product of about $31,000 in 2011, while the West Bank and Gaza had a per capita GDP of just over $1,500, according to the World Bank.
Romney, seated next to billionaire casino owner Sheldon Adelson at the head of the table, told donors that he had read books and relied on his own business experience to understand why the difference in economic disparity between countries is so great.:scared
His comparison of the two economies did not take into account the stifling effect the Israeli occupation has had on the Palestinian economy in the West Bank, Gaza Strip and east Jerusalem ? areas Israel captured in 1967 where the Palestinians hope to establish a state.
In the West Bank, Palestinians have only limited self-rule. Israel controls all border crossings in and out of the territory, and continues to restrict Palestinian trade and movement. Israel annexed east Jerusalem in 1967, but has invested much less heavily there than in Jewish west Jerusalem.
And although Israel withdrew from the Gaza Strip in 2005, it continues to control access and has enforced a crippling border blockade since the Islamic militant Hamas seized the territory in 2007.
The World Bank and the International Monetary Fund have said the Palestinian economy can only grow if Israel lifts those restrictions.
"It's Israeli occupiers and Palestinians under occupation, and that's why Palestinians cannot realize their potential," Erekat said.
Standing on Israeli soil for the first time as the GOP's presumptive presidential nominee, Romney on Sunday declared Jerusalem to be the Israeli capital and said the U.S. has promised never to "look away from our passion and commitment to Israel."
:scared
The status of Jerusalem is a critical issue in peace talks between the Israelis and the Palestinians.
In Israel, Romney did not meet with Abbas or visit the West Bank. He met briefly with Palestinian Prime Minister Salam Fayyad.
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Lets face it, Willard is a foreign policy disaster.
The dude can't say things that dont piss off other countrys real bad.
I guess Diplomat is not in his resume of business man where he justs fires ppl and sends jobs to other countrys.
Willard is George w without the brain.
"As you come here and you see the GDP per capita, for instance, in Israel which is about $21,000, and compare that with the GDP per capita just across the areas managed by the Palestinian Authority, which is more like $10,000 per capita, you notice such a dramatically stark difference in economic vitality," the Republican presidential candidate told about 40 wealthy donors who ate breakfast at the luxurious King David Hotel.
Romney said some economic histories have theorized that "culture makes all the difference."
"And as I come here and I look out over this city and consider the accomplishments of the people of this nation, I recognize the power of at least culture and a few other things," Romney said, citing an innovative business climate, the Jewish history of thriving in difficult circumstances and the "hand of providence." He said similar disparity exists between neighboring countries, like Mexico and the United States.
Palestinian reaction was swift and pointed.
"It is a racist statement and this man doesn't realize that the Palestinian economy cannot reach its potential because there is an Israeli occupation," said Saeb Erekat, a senior aide to Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas.
"It seems to me this man lacks information, knowledge, vision and understanding of this region and its people," Erekat added. "He also lacks knowledge about the Israelis themselves. I have not heard any Israeli official speak about cultural superiority."
As criticism mounted while Romney traveled to Poland, campaign spokeswoman Andrea Saul said: "His comments were grossly mischaracterized." The campaign contends Romney's comparison of countries that are close to each other and have wide income disparities ? the U.S. and Mexico, Chile and Ecuador ? shows his comments were broader than just the comparison between Israel and Palestine.
While speaking to U.S. audiences, Romney often highlights culture as a key to economic success and emphasizes the power of the American entrepreneurial spirit compared to the values of other countries. But his decision to highlight cultural differences in a region where such differences have helped fuel violence for generations raises new questions about the former businessman's diplomacy skills.
The economic disparity between the Israelis and the Palestinians is actually much greater than Romney stated. Israel had a per capita gross domestic product of about $31,000 in 2011, while the West Bank and Gaza had a per capita GDP of just over $1,500, according to the World Bank.
Romney, seated next to billionaire casino owner Sheldon Adelson at the head of the table, told donors that he had read books and relied on his own business experience to understand why the difference in economic disparity between countries is so great.:scared
His comparison of the two economies did not take into account the stifling effect the Israeli occupation has had on the Palestinian economy in the West Bank, Gaza Strip and east Jerusalem ? areas Israel captured in 1967 where the Palestinians hope to establish a state.
In the West Bank, Palestinians have only limited self-rule. Israel controls all border crossings in and out of the territory, and continues to restrict Palestinian trade and movement. Israel annexed east Jerusalem in 1967, but has invested much less heavily there than in Jewish west Jerusalem.
And although Israel withdrew from the Gaza Strip in 2005, it continues to control access and has enforced a crippling border blockade since the Islamic militant Hamas seized the territory in 2007.
The World Bank and the International Monetary Fund have said the Palestinian economy can only grow if Israel lifts those restrictions.
"It's Israeli occupiers and Palestinians under occupation, and that's why Palestinians cannot realize their potential," Erekat said.
Standing on Israeli soil for the first time as the GOP's presumptive presidential nominee, Romney on Sunday declared Jerusalem to be the Israeli capital and said the U.S. has promised never to "look away from our passion and commitment to Israel."
:scared
The status of Jerusalem is a critical issue in peace talks between the Israelis and the Palestinians.
In Israel, Romney did not meet with Abbas or visit the West Bank. He met briefly with Palestinian Prime Minister Salam Fayyad.
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Lets face it, Willard is a foreign policy disaster.
The dude can't say things that dont piss off other countrys real bad.
I guess Diplomat is not in his resume of business man where he justs fires ppl and sends jobs to other countrys.
Willard is George w without the brain.
TEHRAN, Iran -- Iran's President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is calling a visit to Israel by U.S. presidential candidate Mitt Romney as "kissing the foot" of the Jewish state to boost his bid for the White House.
Ahmadinejad did not specifically name Romney, but his comments were an unmistakable jab at the Republican contender's stop this week in Israel. Romney strongly backed Israel's drive to stop Iran from possibly seeking nuclear weapons. Tehran denies the claims.
Ahmadinejad questioned why Romney would make "concessions to get some pennies for (his) campaign?"
Ahmadinejad made the comments during a speech Tuesday broadcast on state TV.
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Willard gets tough with words.
For pennies :142smilie
Ahmadinejad did not specifically name Romney, but his comments were an unmistakable jab at the Republican contender's stop this week in Israel. Romney strongly backed Israel's drive to stop Iran from possibly seeking nuclear weapons. Tehran denies the claims.
Ahmadinejad questioned why Romney would make "concessions to get some pennies for (his) campaign?"
Ahmadinejad made the comments during a speech Tuesday broadcast on state TV.
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Willard gets tough with words.
For pennies :142smilie
China: Romney lacks Mideast facts
China?s official press agency slammed Mitt Romney for asserting that Israel?s capital is Jerusalem, saying his remarks ?totally neglect historical facts? and could even ?reignite? a war with Palestinians.
?U.S. presidential candidate Mitt Romney?s statement that Jerusalem is the capital of Israel is likely to worsen the already tense Mideast situation, and even reignite a war between Palestinians and Israelis,? the Xinhua news agency wrote in an editorial Tuesday.
?Romney?s remarks totally neglect historical facts and are actually irresponsible if he just meant to appeal to voters at home,? the agency continued, saying his ?radical words were intended to win the support of U.S. Jewish voters.?
Romney said during his visit to Israel that Jerusalem as Israel?s capital and suggested he would move the U.S. embassy to Jerusalem if he were president, which enraged Palestinian officials.
The editorial said such a move, ?if translated into action, will cause international concern.?
?On these key issues, every serious politician should watch out for his or her words, especially those from the United States,? it added
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what a masterful diplomat Willard is
Same qualitys of George W . No wonder George W aint allowed to speak at the convention.
no way Willard wants to be associated with that
failure of a President.
19% favorable rating at end of term :142smilie
China?s official press agency slammed Mitt Romney for asserting that Israel?s capital is Jerusalem, saying his remarks ?totally neglect historical facts? and could even ?reignite? a war with Palestinians.
?U.S. presidential candidate Mitt Romney?s statement that Jerusalem is the capital of Israel is likely to worsen the already tense Mideast situation, and even reignite a war between Palestinians and Israelis,? the Xinhua news agency wrote in an editorial Tuesday.
?Romney?s remarks totally neglect historical facts and are actually irresponsible if he just meant to appeal to voters at home,? the agency continued, saying his ?radical words were intended to win the support of U.S. Jewish voters.?
Romney said during his visit to Israel that Jerusalem as Israel?s capital and suggested he would move the U.S. embassy to Jerusalem if he were president, which enraged Palestinian officials.
The editorial said such a move, ?if translated into action, will cause international concern.?
?On these key issues, every serious politician should watch out for his or her words, especially those from the United States,? it added
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what a masterful diplomat Willard is
Same qualitys of George W . No wonder George W aint allowed to speak at the convention.
no way Willard wants to be associated with that
failure of a President.
19% favorable rating at end of term :142smilie
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) has what he says is an informed explanation for why Mitt Romney refuses to release additional tax returns. According a Bain investor, Reid charged, Romney didn't pay any taxes for 10 years.:scared
In a wide-ranging interview with The Huffington Post from his office on Capitol Hill, Reid saved some of his toughest words for the presumptive Republican presidential nominee. Romney couldn't make it through a Senate confirmation process as a mere Cabinet nominee, the majority leader insisted, owing to the opaqueness of his personal finances.
Saying he had "no problem with somebody being really, really wealthy," Reid sat up in his chair a bit before stirring the pot further. A month or so ago, he said, a person who had invested with Bain Capital called his office.
"Harry, he didn't pay any taxes for 10 years," Reid recounted the person as saying.
"He didn't pay taxes for 10 years! Now, do I know that that's true? Well, I'm not certain," said Reid. "But obviously he can't release those tax returns. How would it look?
"You guys have said his wealth is $250 million," Reid went on. "Not a chance in the world. It's a lot more than that. I mean, you do pretty well if you don't pay taxes for 10 years when you're making millions and millions of dollars.":SIB
The highest ranked Democrat in Congress, Reid is known more as a back room brawler than a public flamethrower. So his willingness to throw this private conversation into the media frenzy over Romney's taxes underscores the low opinion he has of the Republican candidate.
Tellingly, neither Reid nor his office would reveal who the investor was, making it impossible to verify if the accusation is true. And as his quote makes clear, he's uncertain if the information is accurate. The Romney campaign's press secretary, Andrea Saul, has previously denied rumors that Romney didn't pay "any taxes at all."
But there is limited political downside to the type of open speculation that Reid is making, so long as Romney refuses to budge on the issue of his tax returns. Increasingly, other Democrats are growing more assertive in their goading. In an appearance at the Center for American Progress on Tuesday, former Ohio Gov. Ted Strickland argued that he could openly speculate as to whether Romney "is a tax avoider" or "cheat" because "his behavior invites such speculation."
Romney recently told ABC News that he couldn't recall if there were years when he paid below the 13.9 percent tax rate that he paid in 2010. Although he said he was "happy to go back and look," his campaign declined to do just that.:scared
"It's interesting, my guy from Vegas wrote this. He's a snarky guy, [Las Vegas Sun political reporter] Jon Ralston. He's a center guy. I like Jon just fine, but he's cynical, and I guess that's what serves him well. So he criticizes me for saying that Romney couldn't be elected dogcatcher," Reid recalled.
"My wife said to me -- we don't talk politics very often -- she said, like, 'You shouldn't have said that.' So Stephanie Cutter [President Barack Obama's deputy campaign manager] comes down to talk about politics and outsourcing at my caucus. She said, 'I'm so grateful for Senator Reid, the best remark during the last week, was saying that he couldn't qualify to be dog catcher.' I could hardly wait to get home to tell my wife."
Reid's assessment about the state of the political landscape didn't end at the borders of the presidential campaign. He spoke optimistically about the prospects of maintaining his role as Senate majority leader, offering up private polling data that he said showed four Democratic senatorial candidates ahead -- Mazie Hirono up 19 points in Hawaii, Sen. Jon Tester ahead by five points in Montana, Tammy Baldwin up three points in Wisconsin, and Elizabeth Warren leading by four points in Massachusetts.
"We feel comfortable in the Senate," he said. "Where the problem is, is this: Because of the Citizens United decision, Karl Rove and the Republicans are looking forward to a breakfast the day after the election. They are going to assemble 17 angry old white men for breakfast, some of them will slobber in their food, some will have scrambled eggs, some will have oatmeal, their teeth are gone. But these 17 angry old white men will say, 'Hey, we just bought America. Wasn't so bad. We still have a whole lot of money left.'"
"So that's the only problem we have with our candidates," Reid concluded, suggesting that virtually everything, his leadership position included, could be swept away by outside cash.
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guess there has to be a reason Willard wont release tax.
I had said a long time ago that he has got to have much much more than 250 million.
Its a billion if its a dime.
In a wide-ranging interview with The Huffington Post from his office on Capitol Hill, Reid saved some of his toughest words for the presumptive Republican presidential nominee. Romney couldn't make it through a Senate confirmation process as a mere Cabinet nominee, the majority leader insisted, owing to the opaqueness of his personal finances.
Saying he had "no problem with somebody being really, really wealthy," Reid sat up in his chair a bit before stirring the pot further. A month or so ago, he said, a person who had invested with Bain Capital called his office.
"Harry, he didn't pay any taxes for 10 years," Reid recounted the person as saying.
"He didn't pay taxes for 10 years! Now, do I know that that's true? Well, I'm not certain," said Reid. "But obviously he can't release those tax returns. How would it look?
"You guys have said his wealth is $250 million," Reid went on. "Not a chance in the world. It's a lot more than that. I mean, you do pretty well if you don't pay taxes for 10 years when you're making millions and millions of dollars.":SIB
The highest ranked Democrat in Congress, Reid is known more as a back room brawler than a public flamethrower. So his willingness to throw this private conversation into the media frenzy over Romney's taxes underscores the low opinion he has of the Republican candidate.
Tellingly, neither Reid nor his office would reveal who the investor was, making it impossible to verify if the accusation is true. And as his quote makes clear, he's uncertain if the information is accurate. The Romney campaign's press secretary, Andrea Saul, has previously denied rumors that Romney didn't pay "any taxes at all."
But there is limited political downside to the type of open speculation that Reid is making, so long as Romney refuses to budge on the issue of his tax returns. Increasingly, other Democrats are growing more assertive in their goading. In an appearance at the Center for American Progress on Tuesday, former Ohio Gov. Ted Strickland argued that he could openly speculate as to whether Romney "is a tax avoider" or "cheat" because "his behavior invites such speculation."
Romney recently told ABC News that he couldn't recall if there were years when he paid below the 13.9 percent tax rate that he paid in 2010. Although he said he was "happy to go back and look," his campaign declined to do just that.:scared
"It's interesting, my guy from Vegas wrote this. He's a snarky guy, [Las Vegas Sun political reporter] Jon Ralston. He's a center guy. I like Jon just fine, but he's cynical, and I guess that's what serves him well. So he criticizes me for saying that Romney couldn't be elected dogcatcher," Reid recalled.
"My wife said to me -- we don't talk politics very often -- she said, like, 'You shouldn't have said that.' So Stephanie Cutter [President Barack Obama's deputy campaign manager] comes down to talk about politics and outsourcing at my caucus. She said, 'I'm so grateful for Senator Reid, the best remark during the last week, was saying that he couldn't qualify to be dog catcher.' I could hardly wait to get home to tell my wife."
Reid's assessment about the state of the political landscape didn't end at the borders of the presidential campaign. He spoke optimistically about the prospects of maintaining his role as Senate majority leader, offering up private polling data that he said showed four Democratic senatorial candidates ahead -- Mazie Hirono up 19 points in Hawaii, Sen. Jon Tester ahead by five points in Montana, Tammy Baldwin up three points in Wisconsin, and Elizabeth Warren leading by four points in Massachusetts.
"We feel comfortable in the Senate," he said. "Where the problem is, is this: Because of the Citizens United decision, Karl Rove and the Republicans are looking forward to a breakfast the day after the election. They are going to assemble 17 angry old white men for breakfast, some of them will slobber in their food, some will have scrambled eggs, some will have oatmeal, their teeth are gone. But these 17 angry old white men will say, 'Hey, we just bought America. Wasn't so bad. We still have a whole lot of money left.'"
"So that's the only problem we have with our candidates," Reid concluded, suggesting that virtually everything, his leadership position included, could be swept away by outside cash.
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guess there has to be a reason Willard wont release tax.
I had said a long time ago that he has got to have much much more than 250 million.
Its a billion if its a dime.
Mitt Romney recently said in Israel that Palestinians don't have as high a GDP per capita as Israelis do because their culture is not as good as Jewish culture. That is both deeply racist and deeply stupid.
According to that logic, Jewish culture must not be as good as Arab culture because the GDP per capita of Qatar, United Arab Emirates and Kuwait crush Israel's.
Mitt Romney also talked about divine hand of providence as a possible explanation of why Israelis are richer than Palestinians. Did God, or should I say Allah, change his mind and decide that he likes Arabs in the Gulf States more than even the Jews?
Here's another explanation for the Palestinians plight: They have been under occupation for over 60 years now. They don't even control their own borders or trade. There have been crushing embargoes on their territories. It's a little hard to get trade going when you're literally not allowed to trade.
Our military has aided and abetted this occupation and, in many ways, we have paid for it. Now we have a candidate for president of one of our major political parties go there and rub their face in it. It wasn't our military that did this to you; it was your own inferior culture. That's literally adding insult to injury.:SIB
Despite all of this, the most relevant part of this exchange might be the perspective it gives us into Mitt Romney's world view. Rich makes right. If Israel is richer, by definition, it must be superior. If Mitt Romney is richer than everyone else, he must be superior to everyone else. Elect me for president, I'm richer than the other guy. :0074
What he leaves unsaid is what is obvious in his mind, "The richer guy is obviously the better guy."
The fact that Mitt might have had some advantages being the son of multi-millionaire governor and Israel might have had some advantages in getting $3 billion a year from the US and having a sovereign country is irrelevant to Romney. Richer equals better. Period. Who cares what the circumstances are? Mitt's always about the bottom line.
Romney's deeply offensive comments about the Palestinians probably won't hurt him in the election at all. There is no group in America you can insult with more impunity than Palestinians and Arabs. That doesn't hurt your electoral chances, it might even help. But what does hurt is the overwhelming sense you get from Romney that he is looking down his nose at you. This son of a bitch actually thinks he's better than the rest of us because he was born to a mega-rich dad, figured out how to cheat the system at Bain and hid away so much of his money abroad (tax avoidance was an enormous contributor to his fortune - do you have any idea how much more you save up if you pay 10% in taxes a year rather than 35%). Now, that doesn't sit so well.:SIB
Who wants to have a beer with a guy who thinks he'd rather be having a Chardonnay with one of his equals? To Mitt, we're all Palestinians
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well ouch just ouch and double ouch
According to that logic, Jewish culture must not be as good as Arab culture because the GDP per capita of Qatar, United Arab Emirates and Kuwait crush Israel's.
Mitt Romney also talked about divine hand of providence as a possible explanation of why Israelis are richer than Palestinians. Did God, or should I say Allah, change his mind and decide that he likes Arabs in the Gulf States more than even the Jews?
Here's another explanation for the Palestinians plight: They have been under occupation for over 60 years now. They don't even control their own borders or trade. There have been crushing embargoes on their territories. It's a little hard to get trade going when you're literally not allowed to trade.
Our military has aided and abetted this occupation and, in many ways, we have paid for it. Now we have a candidate for president of one of our major political parties go there and rub their face in it. It wasn't our military that did this to you; it was your own inferior culture. That's literally adding insult to injury.:SIB
Despite all of this, the most relevant part of this exchange might be the perspective it gives us into Mitt Romney's world view. Rich makes right. If Israel is richer, by definition, it must be superior. If Mitt Romney is richer than everyone else, he must be superior to everyone else. Elect me for president, I'm richer than the other guy. :0074
What he leaves unsaid is what is obvious in his mind, "The richer guy is obviously the better guy."
The fact that Mitt might have had some advantages being the son of multi-millionaire governor and Israel might have had some advantages in getting $3 billion a year from the US and having a sovereign country is irrelevant to Romney. Richer equals better. Period. Who cares what the circumstances are? Mitt's always about the bottom line.
Romney's deeply offensive comments about the Palestinians probably won't hurt him in the election at all. There is no group in America you can insult with more impunity than Palestinians and Arabs. That doesn't hurt your electoral chances, it might even help. But what does hurt is the overwhelming sense you get from Romney that he is looking down his nose at you. This son of a bitch actually thinks he's better than the rest of us because he was born to a mega-rich dad, figured out how to cheat the system at Bain and hid away so much of his money abroad (tax avoidance was an enormous contributor to his fortune - do you have any idea how much more you save up if you pay 10% in taxes a year rather than 35%). Now, that doesn't sit so well.:SIB
Who wants to have a beer with a guy who thinks he'd rather be having a Chardonnay with one of his equals? To Mitt, we're all Palestinians
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well ouch just ouch and double ouch
Willard
250 million
Actually I have a billion locked away where you people will never find it. Tax free :0074
Why are you so jealous? I do not care how much money he has? He is much better than Obama ever thought about being :shrug:
its not a issue of jealousy
how could any of the 99% of us be jealous of having a billion. No one can fathom that enough to be jealous of it.
its the fact that who does he know in his circle that will influence him in his decisions
well its other billionaires.
And I aint saying that Obama dont have ppl around him that I disagree with that influence him and his decisions.
And if you got millions or a billion dont hide it .
Release it and it will be done.
Unless there are serious issues with what he has and has done.
And if that dont bother you then you are just not caring about America.
I am not thrilled about Obama being there another 4 yrs.
If Romney is not some kind of a crook and scheister then I have no problem.
but things do not look good on that end.
And it is just the tip of the iceberg.
more to come.
Taking into consideration Mittens utter lack of effective public speaking, is anyone else sitting on the edge of the couch for the debates? A couple of debates and this man will not only hang himself but braid the rope and throw it over the tree too.
Can you just imagine what an embarrassment Romney would be as a President...of any country! Totally disconnected with real people, self indulgent and so self important...wake up voters for November...he will never admit the continuance of a bad labor market Obama inherited from Bush and 2 unplanned or budgeted wars to pay for.
Can you just imagine what an embarrassment Romney would be as a President...of any country! Totally disconnected with real people, self indulgent and so self important...wake up voters for November...he will never admit the continuance of a bad labor market Obama inherited from Bush and 2 unplanned or budgeted wars to pay for.
A second source, said to be "close to Senator [Harry] Reid," has told CNN's Dana Bash that Reid's original source for the claim that Mitt Romney "didn't pay any taxes for 10 years" exists, is a "Bain investor" and a "credible person." Dana Bash reported on this source, and the person's willingness to corroborate the allegation to which the Senate majority leader repeated on Thursday's airing of CNN's AC360.
As Bash told the show's host, Anderson Cooper:
I did speak to one source who is very close to Senator Reid who claims to also know who the Bain investor is that Reid spoke with, and insists that it is a credible person and this person if we knew the name we would understand they would have the authority and the ability to know about Romney's tax returns.
"Whether we'll find it out ever," Bash added, "who knows? They're doing it on purpose, so this is the discussion."
Indeed, in the days since the Huffington Post first reported on Reid's claim, Reid has done nothing to back down. The Romney camp on Thursday responded by insisting that Reid "put up or shut up." Reid, on the other hand, has made it clear that the burden of disproving his claim lies with Romney.
This was reinforced in a statement from Reid spokesman Adam Jentleson, which Bash read on the air: "Senator Reid stands by his comments. Governor Romney's continued refusal to release his tax returns raises legitimate questions about what he is hiding and whether he paid any taxes at all. Governor Romney can easily end this debate by following the precedent set by his father and releasing tax returns."
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Willard paid no taxs for ten years :0074
well if that aint just a kick in the nads
ouch , oooohgh, ouchy, ouch ouch
This is just the start of the fireball
Obama took down the Clintons.
Romney cant hold water to Bill and Hillary and they got smashed like dogs.
As Bash told the show's host, Anderson Cooper:
I did speak to one source who is very close to Senator Reid who claims to also know who the Bain investor is that Reid spoke with, and insists that it is a credible person and this person if we knew the name we would understand they would have the authority and the ability to know about Romney's tax returns.
"Whether we'll find it out ever," Bash added, "who knows? They're doing it on purpose, so this is the discussion."
Indeed, in the days since the Huffington Post first reported on Reid's claim, Reid has done nothing to back down. The Romney camp on Thursday responded by insisting that Reid "put up or shut up." Reid, on the other hand, has made it clear that the burden of disproving his claim lies with Romney.
This was reinforced in a statement from Reid spokesman Adam Jentleson, which Bash read on the air: "Senator Reid stands by his comments. Governor Romney's continued refusal to release his tax returns raises legitimate questions about what he is hiding and whether he paid any taxes at all. Governor Romney can easily end this debate by following the precedent set by his father and releasing tax returns."
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Willard paid no taxs for ten years :0074
well if that aint just a kick in the nads
ouch , oooohgh, ouchy, ouch ouch
This is just the start of the fireball
Obama took down the Clintons.
Romney cant hold water to Bill and Hillary and they got smashed like dogs.
The government probably could get us out of this mess.
One striking piece of data in the jobs numbers out Friday was just how much of a drag the public sector is on the lame economic recovery. While the private sector added 172,000 jobs in July; federal, state and local governments shed 9,000 jobs. Over the past three years, the government has eliminated 693,000 total jobs. The unemployment rate since the financial crisis has remained stubbornly high, rising to 8.3 percent in July, the Labor Department announced Friday.
Economists interviewed by The Huffington Post blamed the problem on the paralysis in Washington.
The government could have cut the unemployment rate to as low as 5 percent by now "if we had spent enough to do it," said Dean Baker, co-director of the left-leaning Center for Economic and Policy Research. A government stimulus focused on hiring workers to repair infrastructure would be "the quickest way" to ease the jobs crisis, he said.
Baker said congressional Republicans supporting austerity are not the only ones to blame. President Barack Obama has not explained to the country why the economy is in crisis and how another stimulus would help. Baker pointed to President Franklin Delano Roosevelt, who explained the Great Depression and how to get out of it during his fireside chats on the radio.
"I don't think [Obama's] really tried to do that, and in some ways he's actually done the opposite," Baker said. "Now, everyone's got a TV, most people have the Internet. I just can't believe that people would have a more difficult time grasping basic economic principles today than they did in the '30s."
Betsey Stevenson and Justin Wolfers, economics professors at the University of Michigan, noted in a recent Bloomberg View column that 92 percent of leading economists agree that the stimulus helped reduce the unemployment rate, according to a February poll conducted by the University of Chicago's Booth School of Business. In July, Wolfers called Congress' refusal to consider another stimulus "an enormous dereliction of duty."
By blocking Obama's jobs proposals, congressional Republicans are sabotaging the economy to win the 2012 election, said Daniel Altman, chief economist at Big Think and adjunct economics professor at New York University's Stern School of Business. That is the thrust of his new book "Sabotage: How the Republican Party Crippled America's Economic Recovery."
Altman, who traditionally has hewed to the center in his research and writing, said he recently chose to take sides because "one side is just so wrong."
"This was an economy trying to dig out of one of its deepest holes in a century," Altman said. "An opportunity to keep millions of Americans unemployed and some even going hungry doesn't come along every election."
Altman pointed out that some congressional Republican leaders have admitted that infrastructure projects and reducing uncertainty would boost the economy, then turn around and create uncertainty and block infrastructure projects. For example, House Majority Leader Eric Cantor has asked for high-speed rail in his own district, while pushing for deep government budget cuts, Altman said.
State and local governments have been laying off tens of thousands of teachers, firemen, and emergency responders as the federal government's 2009 stimulus has dried up. Meanwhile, it is cheaper for the federal government to borrow now than it ever has been.
As a result of government job cuts, some jobless ex-government workers have lost their savings and homes. Laid off firefighters have had to watch blazes engulf homes without being able to help. Waits have been getting longer for public transportation. And larger school class sizes have hampered children's ability to learn.
Perhaps most importantly, economists said, the government has been withdrawing income instead of pumping it into the economy. Cutting off public-sector workers' livelihoods means less spending by those former workers, which hurts those in the private sector.
"Can you imagine where Mitt Romney would be right now if the economy were booming?" Altman said. "Not only would he be a laughing stock, but he would have no issue to run on.":0074
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anyone with half of a brain knows this is true.
bring America down so they can put a billionaire in office to steal more money and start more wars.
One striking piece of data in the jobs numbers out Friday was just how much of a drag the public sector is on the lame economic recovery. While the private sector added 172,000 jobs in July; federal, state and local governments shed 9,000 jobs. Over the past three years, the government has eliminated 693,000 total jobs. The unemployment rate since the financial crisis has remained stubbornly high, rising to 8.3 percent in July, the Labor Department announced Friday.
Economists interviewed by The Huffington Post blamed the problem on the paralysis in Washington.
The government could have cut the unemployment rate to as low as 5 percent by now "if we had spent enough to do it," said Dean Baker, co-director of the left-leaning Center for Economic and Policy Research. A government stimulus focused on hiring workers to repair infrastructure would be "the quickest way" to ease the jobs crisis, he said.
Baker said congressional Republicans supporting austerity are not the only ones to blame. President Barack Obama has not explained to the country why the economy is in crisis and how another stimulus would help. Baker pointed to President Franklin Delano Roosevelt, who explained the Great Depression and how to get out of it during his fireside chats on the radio.
"I don't think [Obama's] really tried to do that, and in some ways he's actually done the opposite," Baker said. "Now, everyone's got a TV, most people have the Internet. I just can't believe that people would have a more difficult time grasping basic economic principles today than they did in the '30s."
Betsey Stevenson and Justin Wolfers, economics professors at the University of Michigan, noted in a recent Bloomberg View column that 92 percent of leading economists agree that the stimulus helped reduce the unemployment rate, according to a February poll conducted by the University of Chicago's Booth School of Business. In July, Wolfers called Congress' refusal to consider another stimulus "an enormous dereliction of duty."
By blocking Obama's jobs proposals, congressional Republicans are sabotaging the economy to win the 2012 election, said Daniel Altman, chief economist at Big Think and adjunct economics professor at New York University's Stern School of Business. That is the thrust of his new book "Sabotage: How the Republican Party Crippled America's Economic Recovery."
Altman, who traditionally has hewed to the center in his research and writing, said he recently chose to take sides because "one side is just so wrong."
"This was an economy trying to dig out of one of its deepest holes in a century," Altman said. "An opportunity to keep millions of Americans unemployed and some even going hungry doesn't come along every election."
Altman pointed out that some congressional Republican leaders have admitted that infrastructure projects and reducing uncertainty would boost the economy, then turn around and create uncertainty and block infrastructure projects. For example, House Majority Leader Eric Cantor has asked for high-speed rail in his own district, while pushing for deep government budget cuts, Altman said.
State and local governments have been laying off tens of thousands of teachers, firemen, and emergency responders as the federal government's 2009 stimulus has dried up. Meanwhile, it is cheaper for the federal government to borrow now than it ever has been.
As a result of government job cuts, some jobless ex-government workers have lost their savings and homes. Laid off firefighters have had to watch blazes engulf homes without being able to help. Waits have been getting longer for public transportation. And larger school class sizes have hampered children's ability to learn.
Perhaps most importantly, economists said, the government has been withdrawing income instead of pumping it into the economy. Cutting off public-sector workers' livelihoods means less spending by those former workers, which hurts those in the private sector.
"Can you imagine where Mitt Romney would be right now if the economy were booming?" Altman said. "Not only would he be a laughing stock, but he would have no issue to run on.":0074
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anyone with half of a brain knows this is true.
bring America down so they can put a billionaire in office to steal more money and start more wars.
Willard wont talk much about his plan for the economy, his health plan, his tax returns.
thats because he dont want anyone to find out !
holy chitballs.:scared
This is why a conversation about Mitt Romney?s tax returns are important in this election.
James Henry, former McKinsey & Co Chief Economist, conducted the research for the Tax Justice Network. The findings of this study are startling. The study claims that the wealthy have stashed at least $21 trillion in secret offshore tax havens. High net worth individuals (HNWI) may have shielded as much as $32 trillion. Giving some glaring perspective to the $21 to $32 trillion figure, the U.S. aggregate economy is approximately $15.25 trillion.
The study?s author says:
?We consider these numbers to be conservative. This is only financial wealth and excludes a welter of real estate, yachts and other non-financial assets owned via offshore structures.?
Henry found a very large concentration of wealth owned by a relatively small number of people:
100,000 people worldwide hold nearly $10 trillion of offshore wealth.
This amount of shielded wealth in tax havens is the equivalent of the Chinese economy.
Henry continues:
?This new report focuses our attention on a huge ?black hole? in the world economy that has never before been measured ? private offshore wealth, and the vast amounts of untaxed income that it produces. This at a time when governments around the world are starved for resources, and we are more conscious than ever of the costs of economic inequality.?
? The number of the global super-rich who have amassed a $21 trillion offshore fortune is fewer than 10 million people. Of these, less than 100,000 people world-wide own $9.8 trillion of wealth held offshore.
? If this unreported $21-32 trillion, conservatively estimated, earned a modest rate of return of just 3%, and that income was taxed at just 30%, this would have generated income tax revenues of between $190-280bn? roughly twice the amount OECD countries spend on all overseas development assistance around the world. Inheritance, capital gains and other taxes would boost this figure considerably.
? For our focus subgroup of 139 mostly low-middle income countries, traditional data shows aggregate external debts of $4.1tn at the end of 2010. But take their foreign reserves and unrecorded offshore private wealth into account, and the picture reverses: they had aggregate net debts of minus US$10.1013.1tn. In other words, these countries are big net creditors, not debtors. Unfortunately, their assets are held by a few wealthy individuals, while their debts are shouldered by their ordinary people through their governments.?
This incredibly massive offshore tax haven industry isn?t managed by unknown third world banks. Instead it?s operated by -
??world?s largest private banks, law firms, and accounting firms, headquartered in First World capitals like London, New York, and Geneva. Our detailed analysis of these banks shows that the leaders are the very same ones that have figured so prominently in government bailouts and other recent financial chicanery.?
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naaawww Willard aint got a billion
it may be more like 2 billion
James Henry, former McKinsey & Co Chief Economist, conducted the research for the Tax Justice Network. The findings of this study are startling. The study claims that the wealthy have stashed at least $21 trillion in secret offshore tax havens. High net worth individuals (HNWI) may have shielded as much as $32 trillion. Giving some glaring perspective to the $21 to $32 trillion figure, the U.S. aggregate economy is approximately $15.25 trillion.
The study?s author says:
?We consider these numbers to be conservative. This is only financial wealth and excludes a welter of real estate, yachts and other non-financial assets owned via offshore structures.?
Henry found a very large concentration of wealth owned by a relatively small number of people:
100,000 people worldwide hold nearly $10 trillion of offshore wealth.
This amount of shielded wealth in tax havens is the equivalent of the Chinese economy.
Henry continues:
?This new report focuses our attention on a huge ?black hole? in the world economy that has never before been measured ? private offshore wealth, and the vast amounts of untaxed income that it produces. This at a time when governments around the world are starved for resources, and we are more conscious than ever of the costs of economic inequality.?
? The number of the global super-rich who have amassed a $21 trillion offshore fortune is fewer than 10 million people. Of these, less than 100,000 people world-wide own $9.8 trillion of wealth held offshore.
? If this unreported $21-32 trillion, conservatively estimated, earned a modest rate of return of just 3%, and that income was taxed at just 30%, this would have generated income tax revenues of between $190-280bn? roughly twice the amount OECD countries spend on all overseas development assistance around the world. Inheritance, capital gains and other taxes would boost this figure considerably.
? For our focus subgroup of 139 mostly low-middle income countries, traditional data shows aggregate external debts of $4.1tn at the end of 2010. But take their foreign reserves and unrecorded offshore private wealth into account, and the picture reverses: they had aggregate net debts of minus US$10.1013.1tn. In other words, these countries are big net creditors, not debtors. Unfortunately, their assets are held by a few wealthy individuals, while their debts are shouldered by their ordinary people through their governments.?
This incredibly massive offshore tax haven industry isn?t managed by unknown third world banks. Instead it?s operated by -
??world?s largest private banks, law firms, and accounting firms, headquartered in First World capitals like London, New York, and Geneva. Our detailed analysis of these banks shows that the leaders are the very same ones that have figured so prominently in government bailouts and other recent financial chicanery.?
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naaawww Willard aint got a billion
it may be more like 2 billion
Willard
I forgot where I worked for three years.
I forgot where I put all my money
I forgot if I?m in the FBI?s Tax Cheat Amnesty Program
I forgot I helped pioneer outsourcing.
I forgot I invented Obamacare.
I forgot I profited from abortion.
I forgot how much money I made.
I forgot if I paid any taxes.
I forgot I was cruel to animals.
I forgot I bullied kids at school.
I forgot how many I left jobless.
I forgot what America stands for.
And I want to be your President !
I forgot where I worked for three years.
I forgot where I put all my money
I forgot if I?m in the FBI?s Tax Cheat Amnesty Program
I forgot I helped pioneer outsourcing.
I forgot I invented Obamacare.
I forgot I profited from abortion.
I forgot how much money I made.
I forgot if I paid any taxes.
I forgot I was cruel to animals.
I forgot I bullied kids at school.
I forgot how many I left jobless.
I forgot what America stands for.
And I want to be your President !
NASCAR Friends
At the Daytona 500 race, Mitt Romney's attempt to connect with voters went awry when he admitted that he didn't follow racing as closely as "some of the most ardent fans."
"But I have some friends who are NASCAR team owners," he added.
At the same event, he told a group of fans wearing plastic ponchos, "I like those fancy raincoats you bought. Really sprung for the big bucks."
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How can you just not love this guy
think about it
At the Daytona 500 race, Mitt Romney's attempt to connect with voters went awry when he admitted that he didn't follow racing as closely as "some of the most ardent fans."
"But I have some friends who are NASCAR team owners," he added.
At the same event, he told a group of fans wearing plastic ponchos, "I like those fancy raincoats you bought. Really sprung for the big bucks."
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How can you just not love this guy
think about it
Haha!
Scott.... Let me ask..
Who the fuck are you talking to?
I have been so busy with work I haven?t been on the forums for awhile..So tonight I saw this thread and thought "Wow 36 responses I must have missed some hard core debates!"
Then I open it up and no..... not so much. Just King of Dongs in here copy and pasting to himself. Should have known. You used to do the same thing with your football plays.. You might still do it for all I know.
Even the people on your side don?t bother to interact with you. Nobody wants to read 36 replies of copied material. They want original thought and discussion.
Ok sorry to interrupt... Ill let you get back to your conversation with you and yourself.:0008
Scott.... Let me ask..
Who the fuck are you talking to?
I have been so busy with work I haven?t been on the forums for awhile..So tonight I saw this thread and thought "Wow 36 responses I must have missed some hard core debates!"
Then I open it up and no..... not so much. Just King of Dongs in here copy and pasting to himself. Should have known. You used to do the same thing with your football plays.. You might still do it for all I know.
Even the people on your side don?t bother to interact with you. Nobody wants to read 36 replies of copied material. They want original thought and discussion.
Ok sorry to interrupt... Ill let you get back to your conversation with you and yourself.:0008
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yeh get back to medical alerts , where you might be needed more:142smilie
you obviously dont know what goes on in here
loser :142smilie
