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MadJack said:
the gas is nice though. it feels like a 10 beer buzz with no calories :D

$275 - deep cleaning
$9000 - 6 crowns
$650 - "zoom" whitening treatment that ain't worth a chit
$6000 4 more crowns
$750 root canal
total - $16,675 :com:


Screw the dental work you just should have bought $16,000 worth of that gas :grins:
 

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holy chit! went yesterday to get my perm crowns. suspected i would be there 15-30 minutes because they hadn't said and i had 2 crowns years ago and it only took minutes to remove the temp and pop in the perm. when i sat down in the chair the girl handed me the nose cup for the gas. WTF? why? well, the doctor will be drilling the temps off and the teeth under will be sensitive and you will need novacaine. really, how many shots. about 10-15 depending. holy chit, that's the worst part. to cut the story short, i was in the chair for 3.5 hours as he had one hellava time getting the temps off. next month i go back for 4 more (another 6k) plus a root canal ($750) to finish the front 10 teeth i wanted (or was talked into) getting done. i've spent more time in that chair in the last 30 days than my 51 years combined. the gas is nice though. it feels like a 10 beer buzz with no calories :D

$275 - deep cleaning
$9000 - 6 crowns
$650 - "zoom" whitening treatment that ain't worth a chit
$6000 4 more crowns
$750 root canal
total - $16,675 :com:

and i haven't started the bottom teeth yet :scared

i must be crazy!!


:wtf: front top teeth only? WOWZA! Did your dentist not make you sign a paper before all this work started? Mine always makes me sign a paper that shows what my part will be before I have anything done. Sounds like you got taken to the cleaners!! This guy should have at least given you a little break since it was so much work. Too bad the makeover show didn't pay your bill, lol!! Well, I'm glad you have it to pay, and I'm sure they'll look great when he's done.
 

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i was fully aware of the charges and signed the papers before the work was started. i'm sure i could have shopped around and saved some money but i didn't. i will get a deal on the rest of the work, however, or i will shop around or maybe even go to IU and have students do the work real cheap.
 

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i always heard it was good to go to those places because they are supervised during any procedure and are extra careful because they want to do well.

maybe you're right, though. hell, i'm just running my mouth this morning :)

don't pay any attention :)
 

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i'm surprised that nysportsfan hasn't chimed in saying that i'm crazy for not going to NYC and getting the work done :D

'cause, HEY, WTF do mid-westerner's know about anything? we can't even get a good meal out here.
 

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i'm surprised that nysportsfan hasn't chimed in saying that i'm crazy for not going to NYC and getting the work done :D

'cause, HEY, WTF do mid-westerner's know about anything? we can't even get a good meal out here.

lol! Maybe Slove or edludes will have a thought instead? :142smilie
 

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i'm surprised that nysportsfan hasn't chimed in saying that i'm crazy for not going to NYC and getting the work done :D

'cause, HEY, WTF do mid-westerner's know about anything? we can't even get a good meal out here.

:mj07: :mj07: good one jack........in all honesty, my mom works for a dentist that specializes in cosemtic and restorative dentist (her words) and does crowns and all that stuff, I know he's expensive but good and doesnt take insurance (you have to file the insurance yourself after you pay the dentist in full, or something) but the shit is expensive thats all I know......did I ever say midwesterners know about nothing? no sir........I said where I was in fla there was horrible food and all chain restaurants and middle america places like bob evans and applebees and no decent regular food, but if you ask anyone from/lives in NYC area will admit they are spoiled, as you got diners open 24 hrs/day, great italian places, deli's, etc, but I digress....don't envy you in this spot jack as going to the dentist blows, but from my very limited knowledge it does sound like a lot of $ but I will ask my mom and post back...... no more bad mouthjing me either, how about that :shrug:
 

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Our local, (W. Mich.), Costco has a dental center in it. I have never been there, but heard they are very reasonable. It might be worth the drive from Indy.
 

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Hello good folks of madjacks!

This message comes to you from my honeymoon in Anguilla. It rains about 1 day a month here. Rained today, will tomorrow, and the rest of our time here :sadwave: We may cut it a few days short in light of the situation and put it towards our next travel.

I'll make this brief because my wife is giving me evil eyes as she sees the madjacks logo on the lobby computer :mj07: I will respond more in depth and just skimmed it.

Since you said you went to a "cosmetic" dentist they probably charge more than your run-of-the-mill crown. With that said, a crown is only as good as the lab that makes them. For an all porcelain crown you would have on a tooth that shows up front it could cost upwards of 300 bucks for the dentist to have the lab fabricate it. Since he's a cosmetic guy he probably has a good lab and pays a high fee for his. The difference in quality is more than you think...in shading porcelain and stacking it for light to transmit to different depths, varying hues of porcelain is not easy. Lifetime will not happen. If you take good care 10+ years is doable but 6-10 as someone said regarding insurance estimates is likely.

One step up on my soapbox. 16k on teeth in 20 years. How much have you spent on cars in 20 years. WAY more than 16k. Can your car help you enjoy a steak in 20 years? I think not. Trust me, you do NOT want dentures. Regarding genetics and teeth...studies show nothing to do with it. I love when my redneck patients come in and say "my pappy and mammy always had soft teeth, and I do to". Cletis, meet the toothbrush and floss.

Shit, if you want a chicklet up front I'll be glad to hack away :)

I'll be back to my regular ranting at the end of my honeymoon. May be sooner than later due to the shitty weather.

Must go, wife muttering something about sex.

Saint
 
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Bullshit!


well our poor friend Naploeon-Kosar has no idea what a decent pizza or bagel or good chinese food, but alas he is the forum instigator so I dont want to pursue this further w/the "madjack commandos"
 

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Hello good folks of madjacks!

This message comes to you from my honeymoon in Anguilla. It rains about 1 day a month here. Rained today, will tomorrow, and the rest of our time here :sadwave: We may cut it a few days short in light of the situation and put it towards our next travel.

I'll make this brief because my wife is giving me evil eyes as she sees the madjacks logo on the lobby computer :mj07: I will respond more in depth and just skimmed it.

Since you said you went to a "cosmetic" dentist they probably charge more than your run-of-the-mill crown. With that said, a crown is only as good as the lab that makes them. For an all porcelain crown you would have on a tooth that shows up front it could cost upwards of 300 bucks for the dentist to have the lab fabricate it. Since he's a cosmetic guy he probably has a good lab and pays a high fee for his. The difference in quality is more than you think...in shading porcelain and stacking it for light to transmit to different depths, varying hues of porcelain is not easy. Lifetime will not happen. If you take good care 10+ years is doable but 6-10 as someone said regarding insurance estimates is likely.

One step up on my soapbox. 16k on teeth in 20 years. How much have you spent on cars in 20 years. WAY more than 16k. Can your car help you enjoy a steak in 20 years? I think not. Trust me, you do NOT want dentures. Regarding genetics and teeth...studies show nothing to do with it. I love when my redneck patients come in and say "my pappy and mammy always had soft teeth, and I do to". Cletis, meet the toothbrush and floss.

Shit, if you want a chicklet up front I'll be glad to hack away :)

I'll be back to my regular ranting at the end of my honeymoon. May be sooner than later due to the shitty weather.

Must go, wife muttering something about sex.

Saint


make the best of it
 

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saint said:
Hello good folks of madjacks!

This message comes to you from my honeymoon in Anguilla. It rains about 1 day a month here. Rained today, will tomorrow, and the rest of our time here :sadwave: We may cut it a few days short in light of the situation and put it towards our next travel.

I'll be back to my regular ranting at the end of my honeymoon. May be sooner than later due to the shitty weather.

Must go, wife muttering something about sex.

Saint

Congrats on your marriage and have lots of fun on your honeymoon Saint!!

kneifl
 

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Sun Tzu said:
jack how much of those tooth issues are realted to that cig habit? more incentive for folks to quit....
could have been a factor. the "issue" is the receding of the bone. that could have been caused by several things. inherited, neglect and smoking. the periodontist and the dentist both contribute it to inherited from father and neglect. the main smoking problem was staining of the teeth.

after the deep cleaning and periodontist evaluation the teeth aren't that bad. i lost two back left uppers and one bottom left molars due to the bone problem that is under control now and will continue to be with regular cleanings which i had neglected for 20 years or so.

now i'm going for perfection, thus the cosmetic dentistry, at least for the top front 10 teeth and gonna have the rest capped for more protection.

:thumb: i'm happy, you might want to try it. it's not a bad feeling :D
 

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thanks saint. have a great time and good luck with the marriage. i look forward to hearing more after your return.

thanks!
 
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