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Is this the dumbest guy in the world? First all signs point to him, he denies having an affair then admits it. Now he sells his missing wife's car when all eyes are already focused on him. And now he's considering selling the house? He must not care if the entire world believes he's guilty. I thought LeBron James was stupid flaunting all his material stuff but he's a Rhodes scholar compared to Scott Peterson.
 

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Yeah. This cat's a real piece of work.

I heard an interview with John Walsh recently (of America's Most Wanted). Apparently Scott Pederson's dad contacted him about getting Lacy's case on the show. John Walsh said he told the guy (and I'm paraphrasing), "Look, your son won't take a lie detector. He had the insurance policy. He was having an affair he lied about, and he's being very private. Look at the Van Dams and that girl in Utah. Those parents were in front of the mikes and cameras every day, doing everything they could. Your son is doing nothing."

He then said the guy's dad called him back the next day and basically said, "yeah. forget it. We don't want to do the show."

He's certainly not coming clean about stuff.

Supposedly he said he didn't want to do the lie detector because of the affair, but now that that's out there, there's no reason for him not to.

A real creep this guy.

You don't want to jump the gun with these things (some people had condit crucified) but that wouldn't surprise anyone if this guy did it I think.
 

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I wonder how some people, like Peterson, can sleep@ nite. Your wife is a BABE and pregnant no less, yet you are driving to Fresno to have an affair w/ another woman, you go fishing on Xmas Eve, you trade-in her SUV, etc. They broke the mold when they made him- OOOPS-spoke too soon. Jacko's story, (Michael Jackson), is airing tonight.:(
 

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FWIW, I thought his wife was hotter than the women on Joe Millionaire or the Batchelorette. But then again, I guess I prefer brunettes.
 

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Got to agree on this Peterson guy, if he is not guilty he sure acts like it.

No body no crime :shrug:

Why don't they just arrest him and make him prove he is innocent? Our justice system at work again.


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Just saw more on the news on this case. The wife disappears.

1. They find blood all over the guy's car.
2. He shows no signs of sorrow and makes no attempt to contact his wife's family.
3. He sells her car.
4. He tries to sell their house.
5. He first denies, then admits to having an affair, which he claimed his wife was "fine with".
6. He recently took out an insurance policy in both their names.

What's ironic is I have a cousin with a last name of Peterson, who was at Cal-Poly SLO in the mid/late 90s, just like Scott Peterson.
 

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the guy seem to be kind of a schmuck but i have yet to see anything that points to him being guily of murder. the guy is probably selling stuff because he needs the money, as best i can tell he hasn't been able to work regularly and i can assure everyone that no insurance company has paid any death claims on the life of his wife at this point. the authorities always jump on the husband when they have no other suspects. if they didn't do that they wouldn't be doing anything as they obviously don't have the foggiest clue about what happened to that lady.

i find it puzzling that his wife's family wholeheartedly supported him until they found out that he lied about the affair. excuse me, but men always lie about affairs, and i can't imagine someone volunteering that info when his wife has disappeared. last time i checked, california is a no-fault divorce, community property state. if he wanted to ditch the wife for some younger tuna, murder would not be the easiest option.

as to polygraphs, i almost never allow my clients to submit to a test by a police examiner without having a private test run first. of course, the police generally refuse to test your client if they find out that he's been perviously tested as they want him green and dumb when he sits for their test. most of the time the police test is done by an officer who, after the formal test is complete, will keep your client incommunicado post test while he interrogates him and tries to get a confession without the lawyer present (a right the client waived in order to take the test). if that fails, they just come out and call the test "inconclusive" and you're right back where you started.

why do you think the police went to the media right off the bat and insinuated that this guy was a suspect. remember all the publicity the cops generated with that sonar image they found at the marina where he keeps his boat, implying that it may be his wife's body? they already knew that was nothing, that was done for no other reason than to watch him sweat and see how he reacted. they didn't care about the fact that they had no evidence that pointed to him or how it would affect him. they just wanted to get a break in the case so they wouldn't look like incompetents. i promise you if the police had any evidence at all that suggested that this guy was connected to his wife's disappearence he already would have been charged and arrested. the fact that he hasn't speaks for itself.

and scott-atlanta, a criminal justice system whereby one is arrested without probable cause and held until he proves himself innocent is the format that was used by communist states, the star chamber, and before them, the inquisition. our systen presumes innocence and requires the state to prove guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. i prefer things that way.
 

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Loop - great point on polyugraphs. I have taken many and they are a joke. I have also seen many lie and avoid detections and others answer truthfully and be branded as liars. My opinion has always been that the only benefit of a polygraph is that a good examiner can drag out facts when interviewing the person prior to taking the test. I have seen many people so scared about lying that they admit to many things that would't even be asked by polygrapher. I think he is guilty - don't know why. I think he used some of his chemicals that he sells and dissolved her!
 

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Loophole-

I think the biggest problem lies in this guy's behavior. There hasn't been any show of sorrow or concern; just him thinking about himself.

He needed the money? This guy had a membership at an exclusive golf club. I'm sure if he was upfront and forthcoming, his relatives and her family would've help support him financially until he got back to work (if he needed help). If my wife was killed, my first thoughts would not be on selling her vehicle (hellooooo, that looks really, really bad) or the house. And then he has the nerve to say his wife "was fine with the affair". I don't think any married woman in the world would be "fine with it".

If he had any intelligence at all, he'd at least make a sincere attempt at grieving; he'd make contact with Laci's family; he wouldn't disappear for days on end. But apparently he's too lazy to do that. I think the police are building their case against him and its only a matter of time before he's arrested.

So far all the evidence is circumstantial; but there is a mountain of it. Do you believe OJ killed his wife? Can you prove it?? Of course not but it would be foolish to deny all the circumstantial evidence.
 
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Scott Petersen is such a monstrous scumbag.

First of all, why would you leave your pregnant wife on CHRISTMAS EVE to go fishing?

The press conference with the Fresno mistress was more emotional than the first full-out interview with Scott. I agree with you, Valuist. There is no way a pregnant woman would be "fine" with her husband having an affair.

What is this guy's motive for killing his wife, though? He apparently had money, a nice existance, and a mistress? Unless this guy is going the route of Jeffrey Dahmer and just has no morality in his body and is a cold-blooded killer, I'm just a little stumped as to what drove him to commit this act?

PS - I used to live Modesto. I grew up in the Central Valley... I went to high school with Chandra Levy (she was one grade ahead of me) and it's a nice, middle-class, quiet town. It's so strange that just in two years, there's been two high-profile, national news making murders? Thank God I moved out of there after high school!
 

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Loophole

I dont have alot of time but I will offer this much.

Where do I begin.

First off, I find it very difficult to believe that you are a lawyer. I would take my chances with Eddie Haskell anyday.

Let me try to respond to what I take umbrage to.

You dont think he is guilty of murder. Your just ignorant. You probably were also licking OJs nuts during that fiasco. As Valuist pointed out he dont need the money he just feels guilty about living in the house where his wife last days were.

Of course the family supported him at first. Then when they saw how he was acting they got smart. Its a no brainer.

You pointing out how the police watched him sweat when they told him about the sonar pictures is just what is wrong with our corrupt system of justice. Instead of doing good old fashioned police work they bait the guy and sit back and see if he reacts. What a pathetic piece of thinking and trickery. And the sad part is that you as a lawyer buy into it.

The only reason they havent arrested him is probably has a good lawyer ( not you ) and is smart enough to keep his mouth shut and not talk to the tricky cops.

I know all about criminal justice loopy. I also know that this guy 90% chance probably killed his wife and the body will never be found and he will skate. Glad that makes you so gleefull.

OK I feel better now .


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The only motive I can think of is he was afraid of fatherhood. We know he has/had a woman on the side and he supposedly had a membership at an exlusive golf club. Becoming a father definitely would cut into that. We've already seen his reaction with trying to sell his (likely) deceased wife's SUV. Its obvious he cares about one thing: himself.

Was this a motive to kill? Who knows. Not for a normal, sane human being. But we may not be dealing with that.
 

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The only motive I can think of is he was afraid of fatherhood. We know he has/had a woman on the side and he supposedly had a membership at an exlusive golf club. Becoming a father definitely would cut into that. We've already seen his reaction with trying to sell his (likely) deceased wife's SUV. Its obvious he cares about one thing: himself.

Was this a motive to kill? Who knows. Not for a normal, sane human being. But we may not be dealing with that.

The fatherhood angle may have something to it. If they were not happy maybe they had a big quarrel and he hit her a little too hard and you know the rest. Didnt they find blood in one of the cars ? I thought I heard that.

I just know that if my wife were missing I would be with my family and her family and not give up looking until she was found or something was done. I would be on the police everyday forcing them to solve it.

Of course if he threw her in the ocean then he woudnt need to look for her now would he. Every human being reacts differantly to crisis but come on. I just hope he dont get away with it.


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Scott-

You're right about the blood in the car. His excuse was he sells fertilizer so he often cuts his hand and has blood in the car.

He's also made comments from the beginning referring to her in the past tense; as if he knew for sure she was dead. Obviously by this time, thats very likely but for him to make those comments early on, you had to wonder how would he know for sure (unless of course, he did it).

I saw a prosecutor on MSNBC the other night and she thinks his whole "gone fishing" story looks fishier as time goes on.
 

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you(conveniently) forgot to mention the kid.....that kid ties him to his wife for the next 18 years at considerable expense.....this guy has already sold her car and tried to sell the house.......if he did it,and he weighted her down and took her way out to sea,case closed.....very difficult to convict without the body.....as for our criminal justice system,it has turned into a joke....the jury system has turned into a sham...laughed at all over the world...it`s a great system for criminals and defense attorneys....rife with moronic juries that can`t see past their own personal bias`.....i was recently doing jury duty on an automobile accident....we were given very little instruction...we had no frame of reference on what a fair award might be....we were expected to pull an appropriate award out of our hat....the plaintiff`s attorney was asking for an amount that seemed extremely excessive to most on the jury.....but there were several on the jury that wanted to award the injured party with a ridiculous amount of money....needless to say,the break down in the jury room was color based....thank god they settled before the deliberations became really ugly(the settlement was about 1/10th of what the plaintiff was asking)..if the make-up of the jury had been different,the defendant would have probably been destroyed over an ACCIDENT resulting in minor injury.....it`s the lottery for lawyers and litigation happy clowns......we found out later that this was the 4th suit for the plaintiff.............i thank god that the texas jury just found clara harris guilty of murder...what the sentencing will be makes me cringe...apparently in texas,the jury has the ultimate say so on sentencing..9 women on the jury...the woman ran over the man at least 3 times with HIS DAUGHTER in the car screaming...please,..let`s hope she doesn`t get a ticket for parking in a handicapped spot:rolleyes: .....i`m hoping the jury in texas does the right thing...i honestly think our country has disintegrated into a fragmented entity in which we are no longer a people working toward a better society collectively....we are a sea of special interests groups that no longer see themselves as americans first....politicians that are afraid to protect our borders due to political concerns.....moronic hollywood celebrities that haven`t a clue what it`s like to live in the real world.....damn.i sound like dennis miller....sorry for getting off the subject...but,i honestly think our great,great country is in deep trouble....our freedoms appear to be choking us...as one commentator said,'the constitution of the united states was not meant to be a suicide pact".....i am still a little up in the air about war with iraq.....i understand the point of view that wants to stop hussein from getting weapons of mass destruction......look at the leverage that north korea now wields just because of the fact that they have nuclear weapons(and may be able to hit the west coast)......i understand wanting to stop this snowball before it really starts rolling downhill....but,it may be to late...the france`s and germany`s of this world have short memories and their resentment and jealousy of our country outweigh any feeling of indebtedness they may have had(france is a pathetic country that has always been more willing to capitulate to their enemies than to help their allies)...everyone says it`s all about oil,and they are probably partially right(for france,russia and the u.s.)...but the proliferation of these weapons of mass destuction only has one inevitable ending.......n korea is already selling missiles to yemen....delivering them on ships flying no national flag.....does anyone think that n korea,a dirt poor country run by a communist dictator will think twice about selling these weapons to terrorists intent on harming the u.s. and our allies?.....this is what we are also facing with iraq....and maybe iran next.......it may be to late........i hope not.....
 
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oh boo hoo hoo I think he is guilty wah wah wah.

No body has shown any proof to anything that he actually did it. I dobt any of you are investigators in this case.. except maybe Scott, he seems to have all the details down pretty good. You only know what the media is telling you. And the media loves a good investigation with lots of dirt in it because it draws viewers. Pathetic, but a reality.
He has an alibi, and they have no murder weapon OR body.

As for the affairs... maybe they had an open marriage? maybe they were swingers? everyone has their own lifestyles. let them have it. Just because he does not do what you might have done does NOT make him a bad person. Let the police do their job, let this story run its 15 minutes of fame like every other good mystery murder has and then go on with your lives.
YOu dont like our justice system? move to a country that has one you like. Or run for office under the platform that you are going to change the justice system when you are in charge to something that you are guilty until you prove innocence.... kinda like the tennessee highway dog murdering cops eh?
Let me know how many votes you get.

You know, the guy might actually be innocent.... way to ruin his life Mr. Media.
 

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You miss the entire point. Can we produce a dead body for the authorities?? What do you think?? The family has already stated that Laci was not a "swinger" or had an open marriage. You criticized us for not having the facts yet you were unaware of this.

Maybe your marine training has told you otherwise, but we are all entitled to our opinions. WTF are forums like this for?? Is his behavior reason to believe he's guilty?? It alone can't convict him in a court, but I would guess the majority of people would agree he's hiding something.

Now you can get back on your high horse and talk down to us civilians.
 

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i don`t advocate hanging the guy based on public opinion....nobody knows who did what...hell,we may never know...she will probably never be found....and i agree,it probably is very unfair what the media is doing to peterson...i just think loophole missed an important item on the potential motive....

i really think i have valid points on the criminal justice system in our great country....in baltimore,where i live,i think we have the second or 3rd highest murder rate in the country....we convict 2 out of every 10 murder cases tried...now,there are obviously some innocent guys in there...but,2 out of 10?

i`d say go to professional jurors....experienced people with some oversight involved......that have some idea regarding what they are doing and how to apply the law....maybe that`s harsh,and it`s probably ridiculously expensive...but,other than national security,what is more important?.....we know the rich and powerful get the best lawyers and all the advantages....

now,they are trying to get the shoe bomber and other terrorists tried in criminal court,rather than military court...any classified source evidence would have to be revealed...peoples lives would be possibly put in jeopardy....

i think we need to relax the constitution in the current climate we live in.....people are so worried about their privacy being violated....keep your nose clean,and you won`t have any problems...extrordinary times call for extrordinary measures.....

marine,i think we agree on a hell of alot more than you might think....see my write-up in senor capper`s "france" thread....

g.l. to you
 

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Scott-Atlanta said:
Why don't they just arrest him and make him prove he is innocent? Our justice system at work again.
For that matter, why don't they just throw YOU in jail and make you prove you didn't do it.

They'd take a look at your cute ass in prison and SLAM IT. . .AND I MEAN HARD.

Maybe you'd get off if your lawyer could TITFD on the jury.

Arrest him and make him prove he's innocent. My word. :rolleyes:
 
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