SEC 2006 Schedules

[AU2001]

Wow, could this be a new Derek? :shocked:

He actually:

1) made a point
2) backed it up with relevant stats
3) didn't stoop to name-calling or insults

Bravo!

 

[dlvlsu]

5 SEC teams ranked 16th or better in FINAL coaches and ap poll

3 big ten teams in top 25 of both polls

this means alot better teams and more of them in SEC Which in turn means "beating each other up" which means more losses Understand?

3 good teams and 8 patsies = more wins!!
SEC had 5 teams win 9 or more games(IN stronger conference) Big ten only had three!!!
SEC also has 12 teams so almost half the conference won 9 games!
Almost half the conference was ranked in top 16!!
3 SEC teams in Top 10

Want me to keep going?

 

[dlvlsu]

Oh your right Numbers don't lie!! I agree READ ABOVE^

 

[dlvlsu]

Can any conference say almost half there conference:
1) were ranked in top 16?
2) won 9 games?

I dont think any other football conference is even close??

Talk to me?????

 

[thom24ad]

5 SEC teams ranked 16th or better in FINAL coaches and ap poll

3 big ten teams in top 25 of both polls

this means alot better teams and more of them in SEC Which in turn means "beating each other up" which means more losses Understand?

3 good teams and 8 patsies = more wins!!
SEC had 5 teams win 9 or more games(IN stronger conference) Big ten only had three!!!
SEC also has 12 teams so almost half the conference won 9 games!
Almost half the conference was ranked in top 16!!
3 SEC teams in Top 10

Want me to keep going?

I'm not going to get too much into this because you and I have already gone back and forth...but Dereks points hold a lot more weight then what your listing...some of those SEC teams are little over-rated...Derek's numbers say it all

 

[dlvlsu]

Stinky diapers thinks Notre Dame was a great team because they were 9-3.Half the SEC was that good!!

Take into consideration Notre Dame beat: pitt, washington,purdue, BYU,Navy, syracuse, Stanford oops lost to mich st

Bottom 6 SEC teams would have winning records against those cup cakes!!!

 

[dlvlsu]

You have a right to your opinion. i have a right to mine.

Half the conference with 9 wins or better in the toughest football conference on average every year is enough for me!
Best team in big ten needed a missed field goal to beat a 5 loss FSU team that Florida(4th best in SEC or 5th) totally dominated and embarrassed! Ok it isnt worth all this typing!! NFL scouts and people supposedly in the know say the best football teams and athletes are in the SEC on average year in and out!! ENOUGH SAID!! Sure there are better teams elsewere here and there but do you think ohio st or penn st could have the same record in the SEC as they did in the big ten this year?? NOPE!!! it doesnt even matter TEXAS was the best and number one is all that counts!! I believe the SEC has seen that since the big ten has and more often over the last 50 years. So whats up with that??

 

[DIRTY Diapers]

Stinky diapers thinks Notre Dame was a great team because they were 9-3.Half the SEC was that good!!

Take into consideration Notre Dame beat: pitt, washington,purdue, BYU,Navy, syracuse, Stanford oops lost to mich st

Bottom 6 SEC teams would have winning records against those cup cakes!!!

LOL

We played one SEC team and absolutely destroyed them. I wish we played in the SEC we would go undefeated every year. SEC = Average

 

[DIRTY Diapers]

You have a right to your opinion. i have a right to mine.

Half the conference with 9 wins or better in the toughest football conference on average every year is enough for me!
Best team in big ten needed a missed field goal to beat a 5 loss FSU team that Florida(4th best in SEC or 5th) totally dominated and embarrassed! Ok it isnt worth all this typing!! NFL scouts and people supposedly in the know say the best football teams and athletes are in the SEC on average year in and out!! ENOUGH SAID!! Sure there are better teams elsewere here and there but do you think ohio st or penn st could have the same record in the SEC as they did in the big ten this year?? NOPE!!! it doesnt even matter TEXAS was the best and number one is all that counts!! I believe the SEC has seen that since the big ten has and more often over the last 50 years. So whats up with that??

LOL -Your logic makes no POINT. What a dumbass!

Auburn 2nd best team in the country got their ass kicked by a middle of the road Big 10 team (Wisconsin)

SEC best Georgia loss to the Big East Champion West Virgina.

SEC = Average

 

[thom24ad]

Your right we are

Your right we are

We're both are intitled to our opinion...and I have already went through this with you...yeah on average but not last year the SEC is the strongest...but honestly the 9 wins doesn't mean chit except for those 9 win teams rolled right through the conference and beat a couple chit OOC teams

and once again like before and since your bringing up one individual game PSU/FSU what is the excuse are you going to use for Auburn the best SEC in conference record wise at 7-1 and as a ten point favorite getting beat by Wiscy the third best Big Ten team? I'm not going get into this again and if you want please refer back to this previous thread

http://www.madjacksports.com/forum/showthread.php?t=225470&page=2

So we don't have to keep repeating our answers with each argument that is made. IMO Derek pretty much shut the door on the issue with his post.

To make my point:
the big ten was 75-54, SEC was 79-61. Those numbers suggest a .56 win % for the SEC and a .58 win % for the Big 10. SEc has more wins only because it played 11 more total games, with an extra team.

The average Big 10 team won 6.82 games overall while for the SEC 6.58. Hmm, if the SEC had more "9-3 GREAT" teams but the average Big 10 team won more overall games, that means the Big 10 team was a stronger conference top to bottom.

As if I didnt already make my point, Big 10 had 7 teams that won 7 or more games. SEC only had 6 of those.

Big 10 did this while having a tougher SOS overall. More wins per team, higher conference win % against a tougher schedule

:iagree:

Great work Derek, tough to argue against those numbers!

And dlvlsu,
I actually do like the SEC a lot and love watching those in conference games. And yes I will say traditionally the SEC is the strongest but that was not the case last season and this ridiculous statement you've made in another post is no where close to being true.

SEC is strongest football conference bar none. Everybody knows that. May not admit it but they know it.

And next season still remains to be seen but its going to be hard to tell with an conference that refuses to play any creditable OOC games...its going to depend on how Georgia can do without Shockley and if Tenn can bounce back from last season...the other top teams should be pretty solid but what I'm really interested in seeing what Florida is going to look like next season and if Leak can produce in Meyer's offense...Man, I think its like 64 days to the OSU spring game...Thank god for college basketball, without it this time of year would be awful!

 

[AU2001]

Different day, same old argument.

 

[DIRTY Diapers]

Different day, same old argument.

Agreed! Every year from top to bottom the strength of each conference changes. I feel the SEC is no better or worse than the top 5 conferences.

There is no doubt that the SEC has great athletes, but until they're more dominate in their OOC or Bowl record I will refuse to admit they're the greatest conference.

 

[DerekNJND]

5 SEC teams ranked 16th or better in FINAL coaches and ap poll

3 big ten teams in top 25 of both polls

this means alot better teams and more of them in SEC Which in turn means "beating each other up" which means more losses Understand?

3 good teams and 8 patsies = more wins!!
SEC had 5 teams win 9 or more games(IN stronger conference) Big ten only had three!!!
SEC also has 12 teams so almost half the conference won 9 games!
Almost half the conference was ranked in top 16!!
3 SEC teams in Top 10

Want me to keep going?

rankings dont compare to win % and average wins per team. Poll rankings are based upon timing of wins and losses. If you wanna play the rankings game, EVERY big 10 team except 3, Illinois,Indiana and Northwestern was ranked in the top 25 at one point this season.

And rankings dont apply to the whole conference which obviously cant be ranked. A measure of the conference's top teams is inconclusive as to the strength of the entire conference. Why dont you find a ranking of the top 50 or so, and we'll see who has more teams? top 50, 25 whats the difference?

Thanks for playing though. OH and this quote:

"SEC had 5 teams win 9 or more games(IN stronger conference) "

using the final conclusion as evidence to reach the conclusion is a terrible argument....you argue that the SEC is the better conference because the teams won so many games "in a strong conference". Doesnt really add up

 

[blgstocks]

I am pretty sure NW was in top 25 at some point in the season, i could be wrong but i was almost positive they were ranked playing another ranked team. in Big 10

 

[DerekNJND]

I am pretty sure NW was in top 25 at some point in the season, i could be wrong but i was almost positive they were ranked playing another ranked team. in Big 10

Yup I didnt have time to look yesterday I was takin my buddy from out of town around NYC, but NW was ranked in both polls in week 9, and just the AP in week 10. Better to guess and give the benefit of the doubt to the other side of the argument because proving me wrong just helps make my pointanyway. Barely ever ranked but this just lends further support to my argument that the BIG 10 was full of competitive teams with winning records.

 

[blgstocks]

Yup I didnt have time to look yesterday I was takin my buddy from out of town around NYC, but NW was ranked in both polls in week 9, and just the AP in week 10. Better to guess and give the benefit of the doubt to the other side of the argument because proving me wrong just helps make my pointanyway. Barely ever ranked but this just lends further support to my argument that the BIG 10 was full of competitive teams with winning records.

Not trying to prove you wrong at all, i fully agree Big10 was better last year top to bottom than all conferences. NW was as good as UCLA which was probably the 3rd best pac10 team.
NW was behind penn st, Minn, OSU, Iowa, Michigan and wisonsin IMO. that makes them 6th.

Now I dont want to rank teams acording to how SEC would do because SEC backers wouldnt even think of Wiscon=Auburn or OSU>LSU or Iowa=Florida or Penn st>Georgia but i think it is fair to do it that way to, give the win to bama>NW though. Dont know if it is a fair way of doing it, but just an interesting look.

 

[dlvlsu]

SEC more National Championships than any other conference the last 50 years!!

How does that sound?? Speaks for itself to any knowledgeable person!!!

But guess thats average huh??? Dont insult my intellect. You dont know me. only a dumb ass would make a judgement about something or someone he doesnt even know anything about!!!

If you think the big ten was the best conference this year fine with me but thats absurd. Notre Dame sux and thats a fact!!

 

[dlvlsu]

You people seem to be baseing your facts on the bowl games instead of whole schedule and overall performance. OK:

Georgia spotted WV(11-1) 28 points and lost barely
LSU dominated Miami( 9-3) team
Auburn lost to Wisky
Florida whipped iowa

Ohio st beat a so so Notre Dame team
Penn st gets lucky and beats a 5 loss FSU team Whoopee

How does that make the big ten better than the SEC??

SEC 5 teams with 9 wins or more
SEC 5 teams ranked in the top 16
SEC 3 teams in Top ten
SEC more National Championships than any other conference!!

UNTIL you match those Numbers(Which you never will!!)

DONT TALK TO ME!!! YOUR SECOND BEST!!!

 

[dawgball]

To reply to the original intent of this thread, I think by rading through this guy's evaluation of each team's OOC, it seems that the top 6 teams on the list have an above average OOC schedule. I don't think anyone schedules top 10 teams for each of those games. The bottom six in this list have very suspect OOC schedules, but look who 5 of the six are. I really think Bama (maybe South Carolina) is the only team on this list that has something to be ashamed of.

Really, who expects the likes of Kentucky and Vandyto schedule top 10 opponents OOC? They are very sub-par teams in their conference and country. Didn't Kentucky lose to Ohio U last year (maybe year before)? If a top 10-15 school scheduled Kentucky as a OOC game, then they should be shamed for that as well.

And as far as the SEC being down last year: I completely agree. Georgia won the SEC championship when I felt like we had a team that was a little down. I don't feel that the Sugar Bowl was a pin-point accurate example of how good we were, but I never thought we were a great team last year. I always looked at it like we caught most of our conference on down years.

I hope we make a nice recovery this year as a conference, but for the most part I think this article did a very poor job of proving the point that it set to make.

This reporter is known for bashing Bama to no end, so I guess that may have been the real goal.

 

[dlvlsu]

Derek

Ranking thing: at one time 5(MIGHT HAVE BEEN SIX) SEC teams in Top ten(NO OTHER CONFERENCE CAN TOUCH 5 SO DOESNT MATTER IF IT WAS 6) THATS TOP TEN NOT 25 There we go again!!! TOP that???

Your not proving anything!! MORE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS THAN ANY OTHER CONFERENCE THE LAST 50 YEARS!!!