I agree, but living here, I am actually happy with this spot. IF, and a big IF, they get by Wichita St, they match up well with Gonzaga, and then either Wisconsin/K St, and then possibly OSU. In my opinion, they all play similar styles.
Selection Thread - Let the bitching begin
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I agree, but living here, I am actually happy with this spot. IF, and a big IF, they get by Wichita St, they match up well with Gonzaga, and then either Wisconsin/K St, and then possibly OSU. In my opinion, they all play similar styles.
Not following why everyone thinks Pitt, at #8, got seeded too low....
They are #43 in RPI, they had a very easy overall schedule, ranked #82.
They had a ridiculously easy out of conference schedule, with it being ranked as #271 out of a total of 347 Div I teams.
They didn't fare well against the top 25 in RPI, going 2 wins, 5 losses.
Yes, they went 24-8, but that record was padded significantly by going 15-1 against teams that were 150 and higher in RPI (i.e., terrible teams).
I would argue that they are over-seeded, given all the information. An #11 or #12 would be more appropriate.
Pitt's out of conference schedule was really easy and that is what likely hurt them. They finished 12-6 in the second toughest conference. Any poll or power ranking (stats based) has them well inside the top 20. Based on that they deserve to be better than an 8 seed, imo. Their last game they were a favorite over Cuse on a neutral floor. Now I know Cuse improved their standing and seeding by making it all the way to the conf title game, but no one is saying Cuse is overseeded, yet a few days ago this #11 or #12 seed in your eyes was a favorite over them? Yeah, I guess they are over seeded at an 8.
I kinda think the RPI is stats based - in fact that is all it is. While not perfect, it is much better than the AP poll or whatever.
Pitt had a conference RPI of 24 - which isn't bad, but pales when compared to the conference RPI's of the Big 10.
Bottom line - only 4 of their 24 wins came against RPI top 50 teams. And 15 of their wins were gimmies. Wins and losses for a team are somewhat meaningless, when 1/2 your games are against "layup fodder", such as teams with RPI's under 150.
I just had a different opinion after looking at the profile. Only 2 good wins and lot of "bad" wins. Just not a great profile of a team.
The NCAA is trying to tell teams to schedule well outside of conference, especially if your conference is not that strong. Yet they gave a #1 seed to Gonzaga, who only played 2 top 25 games all year (and went 1-1). And they awarded Pitt, in my opinion, with a much better seed than they deserved.
Like I said, just my take. No offense meant personally to you, Mr. Poon.
PITT LOSES THE FIRST GAME- THERE BIGGEST WEAKNESSES PLAY INTO WICHITA STRENGTH- I REALLY LIKE WICHITA -THINK THAT LINE GOES UP
No offense taken and again, I know their schedule was soft. Everyone has their opinion and hard to say what is definitively right or wrong in a case like this. Plenty of people thought it was ridiculous that VCU got into the tourney the year they made it to the Final Four.
