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[SpursDynasty]

Admittedly I have not and will not see it(mostly because I watch very few movies) but what is hard to understand about people not wanting to move even further toward socialism and not caring for the person spreading that message. :shrug:

that is a cop out tho.

there are obvious problem's with any socialized or non-socialized health care. What is common ground though is getting awareness and avoiding exploitations that happen in the capitalistic health care system of ours (as the movie points out)

 

[WhatsHisNuts]

Admittedly I have not and will not see it(mostly because I watch very few movies) but what is hard to understand about people not wanting to move even further toward socialism and not caring for the person spreading that message. :shrug:

Socialism? Do you think we should privatize police and fire departments? How about the FBI? There are certain things that government needs to provide its citizens to keep them safe and healthy...and health care is one of them.

 

[Keyser Soze]

I personally have never lived in Canada, but I know there are a few guys on here that do. I would like to hear their thoughts on their own health care system. I hear references to it, but have known soeone directly involved in it. Any insight would be appreciated.

 

[Keyser Soze]

Oh, and sorry Sponge. I didn't interpret your response correctly.

 

[EXTRAPOLATER]

I would really like to see this film.

I have spent my whole life in Canada, but my parents--Canadians--live in the U.S. for close to a year; just a few years ago.
They're experience with the health-care system down there was pretty bad; basically nothing was covered and the waiting times to see a decent practitioner were pretty large.
I've heard some other horror stories from a few other people, several of them Americans.
Why on earth such a prosperous country can't offer decent health-care to it's citizens is beyond me. I think that anybody who thinks that this film is a joke must be in fine health and has never had to rely on the health-care system for anything substantial.
Moore may have struck out with "Farenheit 911" (Loose Change is probably a better 9-11 film...I won't even go there...), but I expect that this film is quite revealing in it's portrayal of the US health-care system.

If you haven't experienced the Canadian health-care system, or those available throughout Europe, then you probably don't understand how much better they are then what's offered currently in the United States.

Perhaps I should see the film before commenting, but from what I've heard this sounds like a subject that is appropriate for tackling by some investigative journalists; I don't know if Moore qualifies as such, but my guess is that the film does some good case studies and, at the very least, points out many of the flaws in the States current system.

If the U.S. adopted a health-care system anywhere near Canada's then the standard-of-living indexes--which generally favour Canada--would become comparable.

Just my thoughts.
I'll have to see the film.

:SIB

 

[UGA12]

Socialism? Do you think we should privatize police and fire departments? How about the FBI? There are certain things that government needs to provide its citizens to keep them safe and healthy...and health care is one of them.

I would say this is where the divide is for most(at least me). It's governments role to provide health care? Whats the next responsibility that will be taken off the individual and put on the shoulders of the government? Where is the logical end to what the government is to do for people? Should we provide housing, food, vacations(for mental health of course)?

 

[The Sponge]

I personally have never lived in Canada, but I know there are a few guys on here that do. I would like to hear their thoughts on their own health care system. I hear references to it, but have known soeone directly involved in it. Any insight would be appreciated.

Been wanting to ask this question for a long time. It seems that more americans are experts in the Canadian health care systems than they are with their own. The only people i see trashing the Canadian healthcare system are Americans:shrug:

 

[MadJack]

i'm happy with the quality of the health care here where i live but the cost is ridiculous. i pay $1090 a MONTH for just me and my wife. and that's with a $500 deductible and it only pays 80% after that.

 

[vinnie]

Great the politicians are taking over the general forum now too

 

[kneifl]

I liked the movie

I liked the movie

I'll try to keep the politics out of this post.

It was good. It shows us what some medical companies do in order to save money and keep their wallets fat. Health care has become a big business, it wasn't always this way. Insurance companies used to look out for people and keep peoples best interests in mind, not anymore.

On the other hand, don't care much for the film maker. He is an extremist. Also, he is an attention whore - did you see him "donating" that $12K to the website owner of the biggest anti-Michael Morre website because his wife was ill and he might have to take down the website. Charity right? Yeah right, he likes that website to be up and running because it brings him more attention.

Let's face it, these cases don't happen everyday to 10 out of 10 americans. The insurance companies would never get away with it. I'm not saying these cases don't happen, I'm sure they do exactly as described in the movie but on a very small-scale basis. What he does not tell you is that is very tough to get advanced medical care in some of these foreign countries. Also, the U.S. may have far less doctors and surgeons but they do have the best ones by a long shot. This is another reason it is competitive and costs so much. I told my wife this exact same thing yesterday who is from Czech Republic and she wanted to:firing: me. LOL:142smilie :142smilie

kneifl

 

[Keyser Soze]

EXTRAPOLATER

Thanks for taking the time to share. I for one, unlike others, like to know what I am talking about before doing so. The information was very helpful, thank you.

 

[WhatsHisNuts]

Great the politicians are taking over the general forum now too

This from the guy that has over 3,000 posts in the porn cave. Next thing you know, you'll start posting plays.

 

[DR STRANGELOVE]

great flick, it's sad that those us citizens had to go to cuba to get treatment.

I can't complain about the canadian health care system, much better than the US but we also have higher taxes

in toronto 14%
here in Lansing 6%