The pats were playing for the playoffs and not the #1 seed. This was obvious based on who dressed today. Please stop with the fixed talk.
So you wonder if the NFL is fixed ? You just witnessed it
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The pats were playing for the playoffs and not the #1 seed. This was obvious based on who dressed today. Please stop with the fixed talk.
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this makes no sense to me.......why would they possibly want to have to play in Denver in 3 weeks???/:shrug:
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I guess New England's been laying down and fixing a bunch of games, what are they 2-4 in last 6? What have they done recently to make you think they would play any better today. The run heavy game plan was questionable sure but fix :shrug: This type of crap happens all the time, especially last weekend of the season. Same type of stuff but even more so happens in college.
Chiefs ending was really strange to say the least... fake FG with 4th and forever, and then the calls have to make you wonder if you're watching the WWE and I had the Raiders!!! :142smilie
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Line was 6.5-7 and anyone who didn't buy Chiefs to 6 or below is cussing and swearing after the game for sure...
opcorn2Line was 6.5-7 and anyone who didn't buy Chiefs to 6 or below is cussing and swearing after the game for sure...
if it were happening,i`d say the logical culprit would be the refs....I noticed that collinsworth actually mentioned last night that practically every key penalty was going against the packers....and that was true until later in the game..but you could argue that the tone of a game is set early...a few key penalties can alter the flow of a game...change momentum(and momentum is everything in the nfl).....
again,i`m not a proponent of institutionalized fixing of nfl games..but the question was asked "who is fixing and why"...the answers to that ,imo,if it were happening,would be "the refs" and "organized gambling interests"(95 billion dollars a year wagered on college and pro foots isn`t exactly pocket change)...
again,i`m just playing devil`s advocate here...
again,i`m not a proponent of institutionalized fixing of nfl games..but the question was asked "who is fixing and why"...the answers to that ,imo,if it were happening,would be "the refs" and "organized gambling interests"(95 billion dollars a year wagered on college and pro foots isn`t exactly pocket change)...
again,i`m just playing devil`s advocate here...
Why would anyone waste their time and energy and more importantly, their money on something that is fixed.. not real.. predetermined results.. if you bet money on something you claim is fixed then you really need to look in the mirror and question yourself before blaming something that is fixed... especially if you say its fixed then put money on it.. i mean how dumb would that be
the overwhelming majority of people who gamble on football will lose over the course of their lifetime...yet,they still gamble knowing the odds are tilted in the house`s favor...
people gamble on the lottery.....you have a much better chance of getting hit by lightning...yet they still do it....
oh i understand. losing money is not the issue, my thing is people usually set aside a certain amount to gamble with. the thing that gets me is the people who say its fix yet use the money they set aside on something they believe is fixed. why not use the money to gamble with on something you feel is not fixed lol
I get your theory
but.....
fixed or not, you still have the exact same odds if it wasn't
50/50 coin flip- much better odds then if you go to vegas- my advice, if you think the game is fixed, don't cap, just pick which team "vegas or the nfl" wants to win- people make it seem easy to spot which games are fixed- so bet all those games and you win huge
the game isn't fixed- officials are human beings- I mess up at work daily and I work in an environment without millions of people watching and plenty of time to double check my work- I cannot imagine having to make every single call in a football game- and to have to do it 100% correct or else be labeled a cheater-
do people really not think that someone wouldn't of written a book or done an interview for millions of dollars if this was the case- if they could expose the NFL they would be millionaire for life-
now, perhaps one or two bad eggs are involved and have their own agendas, but to think the ENTIRE NFL is corrupt is crazy- they are the richest corporation that only has to provide product once a week for half of the calendar year- why risk the easy money>?
c`mon...people are blowing off steam after bad beats..we`ve all been there...cut your fellow posters some slack...let `em bitch a little....:grins:
i don`t think anyone is saying that there is institutionalized fixing of nfl games(ie sanctioned by the nfl or ncaa)..that is silly.....obviously the nfl has way too much at stake.....but illegal gambling is one of the main staples of organized crime.. to believe that it`s totally unthinkable for an illegal enterprise to not possibly consider an opportunity to influence outcomes of qtrs.,halves,point totals(you name it...any sport in general that`s garnering big-time gambling action ) given the enormous amounts of money involved I think is extremely na?ve.....my god,how much money do you guys think changed hands when the ravens beat the steelers two weeks ago?....how many teasers,moneyline parlays etc went down in flames across the country...the world?...the take must have been astronomical...
I`m not saying there was a fix involved...I`m saying that where theres that much money at stake,theres always the "potential" for some sort of corruption....what`s the saying?.."power corrupts...absolute power corrupts absolutely"...how many politicians take office for the first time without extreme wealth and emerge on the other side millionaires?...
as I said,it`s a $95 billion a year enterprise(with 93 billion of it gambled illegally)....being realistic,where theres that much illegal money involved,it`s hard to believe that everything is completely kosher ALL the time...it`s contrary to human nature........
I don`t know that theres any sort of fixing or shenanigans involved..i`d like to think theres not.....but I`ve been around long enough to know it`s incredibly na?ve to dismiss the possibility out of hand just because the thought that they aren`t always getting a fair shake makes some uncomfortable....that`s life....
95 BILLION a year,nfl and ncaa football(roughly a 6 month season.....that`s more than the 2014 gdp of Milwaukee.:lol
.......star wars has taken in around a billion so far.....:toast:
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Weasie you sir are a good one. And it's nice having conversations with people regarding opinions while maintaining respect
I sincerely mean that and hope you are having good start to 2016
And I know you specifically dont, but yes there are many here who think the entire Nfl Institution is corrupt...to each their own.....I just can't fathom it.....but a couple bad eggs with hidden agendas heck ya I can
It is to the NFL's benefit to keep the games close. We had a couple of blow outs Sunday and they were boring as Hell.
So much money on the line in every game. A PI call here, a holding call there, its a catch, its not a catch, who's to know?
So much money on the line in every game. A PI call here, a holding call there, its a catch, its not a catch, who's to know?
hey,it`s fun to kick the shit on the internet with good,like-minded people that have similar interests..i don`t think I have one fricking neighbor that could give a whit about football or sports in general...would be a sad place indeed if we were all of a hive-mind on every issue...
my brother....:toast:
